Reply by ReneeK_MI on 11/25/08 4:38am Msg #270547
Here is the answer to "how are they still in business?"
I'm sorry, Virginia - nothing personal - but THIS is precisely how/why SOX and other such companies manage to stay in business. People work for them STILL, do not get paid, CONTINUE working for them, and CONTINUE to not get paid, and then - the worst part - they don't go after the money due them.
Think about this - pick a creditor of your's, any creditor, and imagine what THEY would do if you did not pay them. They would simply shrug their shoulders and move on? Is there ANY BUSINESS you engage with that you can imagine doing that 'for' you?! Could you imagine walking out of the grocery store with something as meager as a bag of potatoes, and even begin to imagine not paying for it AND HAVING NO CONSEQUENCES TO THAT ACTION?
How and why SOX manages to stay in business certainly doesn't baffle me in the least - how and why people will "give up" on collecting the money they worked for just blows my mind.
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Reply by Notary/Guy on 11/24/08 11:40pm Msg #270546
SIGN ON THE X look at dates... still in business CROOKS
11/15/2008 no pay TX 11/15/2008 I completed a closing for this company in June, 2008. Never paid. VA 11/14/2008 BEWARE!!! They Are A Non Paying Company. I'm sorry I took the signing. CA 11/9/2008 Non Paying OR 10/25/2008 still owes me $125 from 2007; very unprofessional MD 10/20/2008 will not pay. over a year trying to collect $50.00. NY 10/16/2008 They don't pay and WON'T return phone calls!!!! FL 10/15/2008 Nice people, do not pay, Joanne is V/M only. TN 10/10/2008 It is difficult getting payment. There is poor communication. IL 10/6/2008 They have never paid me. I have called multiple times, emailed, no responser CA 10/6/2008 They still call me!!....Will never work for them. They don't pay. Terrible co. HI 9/26/2008 Shisters! They riped me off. 3 signing in oct of 2006 and never got paid. NM 9/18/2008 Impossible to get paid; don't return phone calls. Total deadbeats! MI 9/18/2008 Finally received check for April signings. I called every other day. FL 9/6/2008 '06 signing. Never paid. They told BBB they would pay. Still didn't. MD 8/27/2008 None paying company OH 8/26/2008 they do not pay and lie to the BBB AZ 8/26/2008 These people are in business because new dumbshit notaries take the work!UB warn CA 8/13/2008 their reputation precedes them CA 8/12/2008 never pay their notaries CA 8/1/2008 We are suing for payment for the only three signings we did for them. CA 7/31/2008 Wish I checked here first...too late now! TX 7/23/2008 DO NOT PAY. OWE ME FROM 06! TURNED OVER TO COLLECTION 7-08 OR 7/19/2008 DO NOT get sucked into their promisses to pay CA 7/18/2008 POOR poor No Pay!Low Ball fees They get 250.00 You get 50 dollars if they pay??? CA 7/18/2008 Can you believe they just tried to call me here in San Diego, CA. CA 7/10/2008 have not been paid for an '07 closing, and they still call! RUN, RUN! TX 6/11/2008 Still waiting to be paid from 10/06 signing WA 6/6/2008 No payment for signings unless you have a lever or sue. CA 6/2/2008 They don't pay their notaries. Don't accept any of their assignments. IL 5/29/2008 RUN! Signing 11/05 - Paid in 02/07 - Unbeleivable scam artists. AZ 5/28/2008 Cannot believe these people are still in business - still playing non-pmt game. CA 5/23/2008 THEY DO NOT PAY. UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. SCAM ARTISTS CA 5/20/2008 No pay, friend still waiting for payment from Signing done 10/07 FL 5/6/2008 Can't believe they're still in business.Closed a loan 2 yrs ago.Never got paid. PA 5/1/2008 unprofessional CA 4/26/2008 Lets all boycott them and they will disappear CA 4/24/2008 JoAnn in A/P Rude and non responsive. Payment still not recv'd after 90 days. CA 4/22/2008 Still waiting on payment since January CA 4/22/2008 They do not pay. When you call they say you are unprofessional to ask to be pd. CA 4/20/2008 should not be in business-no respect/regards for hardworking notaries FL 4/18/2008 They owe me since Fall and a/p does not return calls and scammed me big time NY 4/18/2008 Thieves CA 4/17/2008 They do not pay PA 4/12/2008 This is a criminal company someone write me and tell me how to file legal compla CA 4/10/2008 Warning!!! They do not pay their notaries!! NY 4/6/2008 very very bad pay...took over 120 days to get pd. PA 4/1/2008 Bad service. CA 3/27/2008 they stiffed me on 3 signings it's been over a year now they have refused to pay CA 3/20/2008 still call for signing when no pay for October signing. Some nerve. LA 3/17/2008 BEWARE! They never paid for closing I did in Fall of 2007! TN 3/17/2008 Terrible so everyone complain to the Attorney General of CA TX 3/11/2008 Do not pay MO 3/8/2008 Horrible company that won't pay - can't believe they're still in business! AK 3/3/2008 Have been unable to get payment for two signings completed in August 2007. UT 3/2/2008 HORRIBLE company, had to file report w/BBB then got paid after 6mths CA 2/29/2008 SOXS WILL NOT PAID ARE RETURN CALLS I WORKED FOR THEM IN MAY 2007 TX 2/27/2008 Slow pay. My invoice for November closings still not paid after numerous calls. OH 2/26/2008 Non payers, they don't return phone calls or emails. but still call for singing CT 2/25/2008 nice to you while they lie, took 4 months to get paid, do not waste your time NM 2/22/2008 You'll be holding your breath for a long time for your payment. LA 2/20/2008 DO NOT PAY FOR THEIR SIGNINGS AZ 2/20/2008 Make a complaint to your local police dept fax to orange Co sherriffs office NC 2/19/2008 They do not pay their notaries for serviece rendered AZ 2/10/2008 search SOX on Yahoo. ripoff.com is 1st. See horror stories CA 2/8/2008 SLOW TO NO PAY,REPORT THEM ON RIPOFF.COM!!! DO NOT TAKE THEIR SIGNINGS!!! CT 2/5/2008 DOES NOT PAY, OR TAKES 4-6 MONTHS TO GET PAID, NOT WORTH IT, NO ONE RETURNS CALL TX 1/30/2008 Pays EXTREMELY late if at all, A/P won't answer calls or emails CA 1/30/2008 Having trouble getting payment TN 1/22/2008 Avoid this company. They don't pay. BBB rating is an "F". CA 1/16/2008 Non paying WY 1/14/2008 Do Not Pay FL 1/13/2008 4 signings never paid for.. NC 1/8/2008 One sided.s FL 1/7/2008 They are very slow to pay. TN 1/3/2008 Promise to pay me for 3 month old invoice just so I would take another signing IL 12/20/2007 Very slow pay (but I did at least get paid unlike many others who did not) KY 12/15/2007 Horrible, Notaries beware, do not do work for them. They do not pay you. FL 12/14/2007 Can't believe they are still in business. I finely got my pay because of BBB MN 12/10/2007 SOx ows me money for 5 signings. Do not ever do business with them!!! CA 12/8/2007 No intention to pay, and will lie about payment still coming HI 12/7/2007 CONS CA 12/6/2007 They Dont pay FL 12/6/2007 Pay Late, Expect Notarys to bend over backwards for them CA 12/6/2007 dishonest, crooks, horrible. NV 12/5/2007 Totally dishonest, will not pay, they should be shut down. CA 11/30/2007 Unprofessional, dishonest IA 11/20/2007 They haven't paid for a signing I did in Oct 2006 - over one year CA 11/19/2007 The don't pay their notaries NV 11/14/2007 I have yet to be paid for a June signing. I will not work for them again. CA 11/9/2007 They offer very high payment but then must be coaxed to pay or don't pay at all. OR 11/9/2007 Payment only after my lawyer contacted them. FL 10/26/2007 Very Unprofessional CA 10/25/2007 No pay, slow pay! IN 10/25/2007 Unethical, non-payers, give you the run around AK 10/25/2007 They feed off of new siging agents. Have not done a closing for them i years FL 10/25/2007 crooks CA 10/24/2007 Non-payers VA 10/23/2007 No pay of course - unbelievable they were shocked when I refused another signing FL 10/22/2007 Refuse to return correspondence regarding payment for over 1yr of signings. CA 10/18/2007 Take everyone advise, NEVER,NEVER do anything for SucksUSA IN 10/17/2007 Poor pay history. Sometimes does not pay NV 10/17/2007 All you get is the runaround and no payment on invoices WA 10/16/2007 Have to hound them for months to get payment , very rude FL 10/14/2007 They are non payers! CA 10/8/2007 They will not pay for your services FL 10/2/2007 Un-professional, un-dependable, un-truthful, avoid at all costs. AZ 9/29/2007 They don't pay AL 9/27/2007 Worst Paying "Company" I've worked for - will not work again CA 9/26/2007 Never pay, once a month invoices appear to get lost, last 3 not paid. TX 9/26/2007 they don't pay unless you send demand letters, threats, etc. CA 9/26/2007 RUN!!!!!!! THEY DON'T PAY TILL YOU CALL 2000 TIMES! PA 9/25/2007 they do not have a good payment plan CA 9/25/2007 terrible,had to fax invoice 50 times per day and they finally paid ID 9/25/2007 Follow their rules to get paid. Still have to call every time. They are terrible WA 9/25/2007 Very slow to pay. I wouldn't work for them again. CA 9/25/2007 offered $65 4 edocs, couldn't answer BASIC questions-refused signing VA 9/24/2007 Will only pay off of their invoice. Still very slow. Good luck if you get paid. TX 9/24/2007 have been waiting for payment since april for two signings they dont pay AZ 9/24/2007 Delayed payments - had to threaten BBB contact, then got check in 2 days(TWI CA 9/14/2007 Worst Signing Service around. CA 9/13/2007 very unprofessional, they do not pay the notaries, do not return calls PA 9/12/2007 1.5 stars is to good for this company should be -5 DE 9/11/2007 Min 3 mos to pay then they still stall NY 9/3/2007 Disreputable CA 8/28/2007 Does not pay PA 8/26/2007 To me, they were very adept in the art of stalling paymt for services. NM 8/26/2007 terrible can't believe they are still in business NY 8/26/2007 Took 9 months to get paid. VT 8/21/2007 Very difficult to get payment from them HI 8/17/2007 They have an F rating from the BBB. What does that tell you. CA 8/14/2007 Horrible about payments. Had to contact lender to get payment. CA 8/9/2007 they don't pay signing agents and keep the money for the company FL 8/8/2007 They still have not paid me and it has been 7 months! CA 8/8/2007 Is it Sox??? I thought it was SUX! ME 8/6/2007 SOX will not pay! Never work for SOX!!! FL 8/6/2007 They make you jump thru hoops to satisfy them and then they don't pay. CA 8/6/2007 They took over 7 months to pay me on two occasions..I won't work for them again. ID 8/5/2007 late payments PA 8/4/2007 Almost impossible to get payments, and any you do get will not be on time CO 8/4/2007 will not pay no mater what will not return your calls lies each time AZ 8/3/2007 Avoid this company at all costs - scam artists CA 8/2/2007 Cheats FL 8/1/2007 UNETHICAL! BEWARE!!! TN 7/31/2007 Deadbeats, Horrible No-Pay Company OH 7/28/2007 No pay losers WA 7/27/2007 Have to hunt down your money VA 7/27/2007 Very low paying ID 7/27/2007 Dead Beats OH 7/27/2007 no pay/ extremely slow pay, over 18 mos & BBB report to receive pmt CT 7/24/2007 They don't pay. OH 7/24/2007 Have to fight to get your money and pays 90+ days FL 7/19/2007 Never got paid for the last signing I did. WA 7/18/2007 As thieves. Do not pay and tell you to go collect at their office. I am in FL. FL 7/18/2007 Hard to collect payment OR 7/17/2007 Very unprofessional; critical accounting errors WA 7/11/2007 They are very hard to collect from. Not worth the effort. KY 7/11/2007 They DO NOT PAY. NC 7/10/2007 DO NOT WORK FOR SOX! HORRIBLE COMPANY!! NJ 7/10/2007 really slow to no pay IN 7/9/2007 They do not want to pay notaries they hire. CA 7/6/2007 Sox will not pay it signing agents. Do not accept signings from SOX. MD 7/6/2007 they do not pay you. Do not work for this company ever! they are horrible FL 6/26/2007 They don't pay much and don't get what they owe you on time. CA 6/25/2007 slow to no pay, lowball fees lots of hand holding AZ
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