Posted by Faith Brown on 11/15/08 11:54am
Msg #269780

SOX and Closingplus

I completed closings for the above signing companies on short notice and have not been paid. SOX owes me $75.00 and closingplus $90.00. After numerous contacts and promises of payment from SOX, it has been over 5 months. Closingplus has not responded. Do not know if they are still in business. I have reported both to the BBB.

Reply by ZeeCA on 11/15/08 12:03pm
Msg #269781

b4 you get totally slammed and called names did you do a

search? Which I am sure you did not as you took the closing.

and I am sure there will be comments

Reply by ChristineHI on 11/15/08 2:40pm
Msg #269791

Re: b4 you get totally slammed and called names did you do a

Yes, it is imperative that you do a search in the company list before accepting any signings. SOX is one of the worst in the industry and it has been that way for years.
I ALWAYS check the list when someone new calls. The list on this site is the best I have found. Also, when anyone has any experience, good or bad, put something in there. I helps us all out!
BBB won't help with SOX unfortunately. There are so many complaints against them it is incredible.
If you are unsure about how to use the listing, ask. It can help prevent losses.

This is just the last six months of comments on SOX. There are tons more! And all 1 star ratings..the lowest you can get.


11/15/2008 I completed a closing for this company in June, 2008. Never paid. VA
11/14/2008 BEWARE!!! They Are A Non Paying Company. I'm sorry I took the signing. CA
11/9/2008 Non Paying OR
10/25/2008 still owes me $125 from 2007; very unprofessional MD
10/20/2008 will not pay. over a year trying to collect $50.00. NY
10/16/2008 They don't pay and WON'T return phone calls!!!! FL
10/15/2008 Nice people, do not pay, Joanne is V/M only. TN
10/10/2008 It is difficult getting payment. There is poor communication. IL
10/6/2008 They have never paid me. I have called multiple times, emailed, no responser CA
10/6/2008 They still call me!!....Will never work for them. They don't pay. Terrible co. HI
9/26/2008 Shisters! They riped me off. 3 signing in oct of 2006 and never got paid. NM
9/18/2008 Impossible to get paid; don't return phone calls. Total deadbeats! MI
9/18/2008 Finally received check for April signings. I called every other day. FL
9/6/2008 '06 signing. Never paid. They told BBB they would pay. Still didn't. MD
8/27/2008 None paying company OH
8/26/2008 they do not pay and lie to the BBB AZ
8/26/2008 These people are in business because new dumbshit notaries take the work!UB warn CA
8/13/2008 their reputation precedes them CA
8/12/2008 never pay their notaries CA
8/1/2008 We are suing for payment for the only three signings we did for them. CA
7/31/2008 Wish I checked here first...too late now! TX
7/23/2008 DO NOT PAY. OWE ME FROM 06! TURNED OVER TO COLLECTION 7-08 OR
7/19/2008 DO NOT get sucked into their promisses to pay CA
7/18/2008 Can you believe they just tried to call me here in San Diego, CA. CA
7/10/2008 have not been paid for an '07 closing, and they still call! RUN, RUN! TX
6/11/2008 Still waiting to be paid from 10/06 signing WA
6/6/2008 No payment for signings unless you have a lever or sue. CA
6/2/2008 They don't pay their notaries. Don't accept any of their assignments. IL
5/29/2008 RUN! Signing 11/05 - Paid in 02/07 - Unbeleivable scam artists. AZ
5/28/2008 Cannot believe these people are still in business - still playing non-pmt game. CA
5/23/2008 THEY DO NOT PAY. UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. SCAM ARTISTS CA
5/20/2008 No pay, friend still waiting for payment from Signing done 10/07 FL
5/6/2008 Can't believe they're still in business.Closed a loan 2 yrs ago.Never got paid. PA
5/1/2008 unprofessional CA
4/26/2008 Lets all boycott them and they will disappear CA
4/24/2008 JoAnn in A/P Rude and non responsive. Payment still not recv'd after 90 days. CA
4/22/2008 Still waiting on payment since January CA
4/22/2008 They do not pay. When you call they say you are unprofessional to ask to be pd. CA
4/20/2008 should not be in business-no respect/regards for hardworking notaries FL
4/18/2008 They owe me since Fall and a/p does not return calls and scammed me big time NY
4/18/2008 Thieves CA
4/17/2008 They do not pay PA
4/12/2008 This is a criminal company someone write me and tell me how to file legal compla CA
4/10/2008 Warning!!! They do not pay their notaries!! NY
4/6/2008 very very bad pay...took over 120 days to get pd. PA
4/1/2008 Bad service. CA

Reply by Vriones on 11/15/08 12:26pm
Msg #269782

SOX are thieves, kiss your $ goodbye. Whoever runs that place should be arrested, last I checked they rated an F w/ the BBB... saddest part is that they lie to you constantly.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 11/15/08 2:19pm
Msg #269790

BBB is a joke and it does nothing to help anybody...

unless the company is actually a member and falls for their line. Not that I'm not all for ethical business dealings, but I found out the hard way that the BBB is entirely useless, especially if the company you're complaining about isn't a member.

Let's put it this way...


BBB:Consumers::NNA:Notaries

Reply by LarryTN on 11/15/08 4:29pm
Msg #269792

Re: BBB is a joke and it does nothing to help anybody...

Big thumbs down for SOX. They are non payers and they will lie to you!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/15/08 4:36pm
Msg #269793

For all I've read about SOX in the two years I've been

a member here, and on other forums, I'm absolutely amazed that they can find ANYBODY to sign their loans!!

Reply by Linda Juenger on 11/15/08 5:14pm
Msg #269796

They prey on newbies and eat them alive. Sad. n/m

Reply by ZeeCA on 11/15/08 7:10pm
Msg #269801

LINDA: It is cuz they are in bed with XYZ and at the class

they continually tell the newbies "once you get going the best company to call is SOX..... they will keep you busy and pay $50.00 which is the going rate.... "

and the newbies buy this line of crap....

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/15/08 7:59pm
Msg #269809

Since XYZ raised a ruckus about their name being

smeared on the forums I'm surprised they associate themselves with companies the likes of SOX...sure doesn't make them look good.

There ya go new people - call NNA and ask tell them that since they recommended you work for SOX, get your money for you!!...hehe

Reply by Notary/Guy on 11/15/08 7:41pm
Msg #269804

Re: SOX

9/12/2008 I finally did get paid but had to sue in small claims. CA
8/27/2008 crooks-they do not pay their Notaries CA
5/27/2008 still no pay for2 signings in 2007/lucky I stopped taking calls frm these crooks CA
5/24/2008 This company does not pay, Do not do work for these people CA
4/11/2008 Scam company will not pay, other company Signatures Plus, Debra Vladix owner CA
3/5/2008 Very run around when payments are due,,,excuses all the time CA
3/4/2008 How are they still in business? Search RipOff.com for gory details! CA
1/29/2008 have not paid for several signings. They don't return calls/emails. CA
12/17/2007 Has anyone been paid by this Company?If so can you let me know how you did it CA
12/5/2007 Fraud CA

Reply by Notary/Guy on 11/15/08 7:49pm
Msg #269806

Re: SOX bbb

Company
Rating F. Our opinion of what this rating means:
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.
>>>>>>>F <<<<

Reply by Notary/Guy on 11/15/08 7:42pm
Msg #269805

How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?

If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:

Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888

If you do not wish to use Form 3949-A, you may send a letter to the address above. Please include the following information, if available:

Name and address of the person you are reporting
The taxpayer identification number (social security number for an individual or employer identification number for a business)
A brief description of the alleged violation, including how you became aware of or obtained the information
The years involved
The estimated dollar amount of any unreported income
Your name, address and daytime telephone number
Although you are not required to identify yourself, it is helpful to do so. Your identity can be kept confidential.

Reply by MW/VA on 11/15/08 7:50pm
Msg #269807

I'm sorry to hear that SOX got you. They have the worst reputation in the business.
We can never understand how they are still in business, except that they prey on those who are new or uninformed. Chalk it up to experience & start checking out companies (especially ss) when you take an assignment. Signing Central is a very useful tool and will save you a lot of time & expense. Also, reporting these companies to the BBB is a waste of time.

Reply by Notary/Guy on 11/15/08 7:51pm
Msg #269808

Closingplus bbb


Company
Rating F Our opinion of what this rating means:
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.
F

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 11/15/08 9:49pm
Msg #269814

SOX has a BUNCH recent small claims judgments and case files, too. This is public information from Orange County Superior Court:

In this one, SOX did not show up and the plaintiff won by default. It's still an open judgment:
https://ocapps.occourts.org/SmallClaims/DisplayCase.do?caseNbr=30-2007-00018277-SC-SC-HLH&src=case_src_dtl

In the other one I found, the plaintiff asked for the case to be dismissed. I presume that's because SOX paid up before the court date.

But of real interest is case #30-2008-00050352-SC-SC-HLH, which is still ongoing. SOX is a defendant and lost this case but isn't paying on the judgment so the plaintiff is forcing SOX to come to court on 12/3/08 for an examination of assets. They also added Debbie Vladic as an interested party in the case. If any of you are familiar with small claims cases, you know what that means. It's a court order from the judge to appear and explain why they aren't paying on the judgment. It also means that they have to bring with them a full accounting of their assets for the plaintiff in order to satisfy the judgment. If they don't show up, the judge could (and often will) issue a bench warrant.

And if you're really interested... it's scheduled for:

12/03/2008 AT 08:30:00 AM IN S09 AT HARBOR JUSTICE CENTER - LAGUNA HILLS

This is a public hearing... and the judge would probably tell them to handle it in the hallway, or might not. It depends on the judge. Obviously, you wouldn't be able to participate... but it might be a good time to personally deliver an invoice or summons if you can't find them otherwise. Provided, of course, somebody actually shows up.


And there's there's a non small claims that is also interesting:

07CC07682 in Superior court for "breech of conract":

https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPub/DisplayCaseInformation.do?caseNbr=07CC07682&src=case_src_dtl




This company is just riddled with legal issues right now. And that's just in Orange County courts.

Reply by SShoreDude on 11/17/08 10:10am
Msg #269890

No sympathy

for people (even newbs) who know enough to post bad feedback on this site for SOX, but don't have the common sense to do a search on the company before they do work for them.

Here's a tip, accept all jobs even if you don't know who they are. Then, LOOK THEM UP. If they are disreputable, copy the feedback from the forums and email it back to the company, and cancel your services. The feeling you get when these skunks steal your money is not worth the risk.

Reply by jba/fl on 11/17/08 10:27am
Msg #269894

Good tip...by emailing back, avoids their pitiful excuses... n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 11/17/08 12:45pm
Msg #269904

Re: Good tip...by emailing back, avoids their pitiful excuses...

A little touchy on this one. Some ss are blackballing notaries who participate on this board.