Posted by chell on 9/5/08 3:19pm
Msg #263294

POA

I had a title co have a person sign as attorney in fact instead of POA for a purchase thought it had to be POA they argued i did it the way they wanted i couldn't find exact law in the middle of signing

Reply by chell on 9/5/08 3:20pm
Msg #263295

should have been POA right?

Reply by PAW on 9/5/08 7:40pm
Msg #263323

Sorry, but you are incorrect.

As was pointed out, a "Power of Attorney" is a legal document wherein one person, called the PRINCIPAL authorizes another person, called the ATTORNEY-IN-FACT, the power to act on the principal's behalf.

A person is not a POA, so they should never sign John Doe, POA. An Attorney-in-fact is a person with a representative capacity and should sign John Doe, Attorney-in-fact or John Doe, AIF. In states that allow representative capacity to be shown in notarial certificates, the wording typically looks like:

... by John Doe, Attorney-in-fact for Harry Smith ...

Reply by lindetteh_PA on 9/5/08 3:25pm
Msg #263296

Re: Most of my POA signings sign Attorney in Fact n/m

Reply by NCLisa on 9/5/08 3:27pm
Msg #263297

The POA is the document that gives

someone the capacity to sign as attorney in fact for another person. Normally the doc would be signed "John Doe by Jane Doe his attorney in fact"

Reply by Tannis Zamora on 9/5/08 3:55pm
Msg #263302

Re: The POA is the document that gives

This is the way it was explained to me by a TC. The document is a POA. The signer of the document according to my state's laws would sign Jane Doe for John Doe his AIF. (abbreviation is allowed).

tannis z TN

Reply by Les_CO on 9/5/08 9:06pm
Msg #263341

In most cases if you are doing a POA you must place your stamp in the exact middle of the POA's forehead. if you use an embosser you must place it on the POA's left ear. (this if only on the left coast) If the guy is in fact an attorney, just ask him for a date.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 9/5/08 9:28pm
Msg #263345

"If the guy is in fact an attorney, just ask him for a date."

Unless he's an attorney-in-fact, in which case you just ask him to ask his client to go on a date with you...

Reply by sue_pa on 9/5/08 11:22pm
Msg #263352

well I worked until 9:00 tonight and then went on a date and am now printing paperwork for tomorrow a.m. and then have another date tomorrow. Too tiring for these old bones.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 9/5/08 11:52pm
Msg #263359

That's easy Sue...quit dating...<G>

Reply by sue_pa on 9/6/08 7:16am
Msg #263366

But Linda, when you reach a certain age and financial status in life, the pickins become very slim. When you find one that is stable and secure, to say nothing of cute ...

Reply by BrendaTx on 9/6/08 7:19am
Msg #263367

"When you find one that is stable and secure, to say nothing of cute ..."

Shut up, sue.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 9/6/08 8:38am
Msg #263376

LOL you two!!...:) n/m

Reply by sue_pa on 9/6/08 10:52am
Msg #263390

I didn't say he was perfect ... he's male so he's still a butt brain on so many levels ... but still cute !!

Reply by Mamie on 9/6/08 7:49pm
Msg #263420

Sue, date all you want just don't give up the clicker.

Reply by Pat/IL on 9/5/08 11:28pm
Msg #263353

Re: Depends on your state laws...

In Illinois, we are required to stamp the POA's butt.