Posted by Nan on 4/11/09 9:25am
Msg #284459

21st Century Legal Services, CA

Anyone worked with this company? If so, what's your opinion?

Reply by MW/VA on 4/11/09 9:47am
Msg #284460

Try the orange search button--there's been many discussions.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/11/09 10:01am
Msg #284462

I linked your message
Especially read the thread that starts with message 283044

Reply by Les_CO on 4/11/09 10:54am
Msg #284470

I have been called by, but never worked for 21st Century Legal Services, as I believe what they have asked me to do to be illegal in CO.
I’m wondering about just what kind of “Legal Services” this company offers? And if they have attorneys that have been admitted to the bar in the various States they are doing business in? One poster says charging for legal services is legal. Duh?
This company could very well be a legitimate company, doing good things, with the public’s interest at heart…I don’t know.
But I do have an opinion. Lets suppose……….
Scenario:
Your Chinchilla breeding business didn’t work…Your IRS scam didn’t work….The money/gold/diamonds in Nigeria scam didn’t work….your Help for Katrina victims scam didn’t work…your 900 number in the Cayman Islands scam didn’t work…Your phone sex isn’t doing very well….So what about all these people that are into houses that are upside down, or over their head, and being foreclosed on, and desperate?Hmmmmm?…. You are busy in the ‘boiler room’ soliciting business, and don’t have the time or the money to hire people. (sales reps…for the want of a better title) Where do you find several thousand people, nationwide, that you can hire (with no money in front) and get to go to people’s houses, and collect checks, and signed paperwork absolving you from any liability and send them to you? These people should have transportation, be somewhat presentable, have some experience with dealing with people, be a little gullible themselves, or ethically challenged, and will work cheap? MOBILE NOTARIES!!!!!! What a brainstorm!! Now we really don’t need “Notaries” but better that pizza delivery people, and we can tell them to tell the suckers…oops sorry!! “clients!” that they work for US!! As if we’re a real company with offices, and representatives nationwide, and have them get the paperwork signed, and collect the dough. We really need someone to be there ‘in person’ because these ‘clients’ are too stupid, or stressed (or to SMART) to actually send us the dough without a little prodding. Just like sending a check to the Nigerians for the shipping charges on the two tons of gold bullion that we have waiting for them. Now we won’t get all these people to work for us…many are actual professionals, and have a background in the legal, real estate, or the lending business. I’m not sure we want them….too many questions. But we will get some….. Maybe we should call ourselves something “Legal” or “Legal Service”…something….Maybe hire a Lawyer…Heck that should be easy just about all the ex-congressmen, representatives, politicians, lobbyists’…that are now in jail, are or were lawyers… Yeah, that should be easy. And if we want to go legit…we could actually send in some of these “applications” to the lenders and see if they will re-do the loans? Could be some real possibilities here?

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/11/09 11:06am
Msg #284471

Careful there, Les - they'll sue you and report you to the CO Board...<G>

Reply by Stamper_WI on 4/11/09 11:07am
Msg #284472

My impression is at the least, someone didn't do their homework. But I am pretty sure its not that simple.

Reply by Les_CO on 4/11/09 12:01pm
Msg #284478

Re: 21st / Question?

Question: Would a legitimate company, acting in good faith, solicit someone, for compensation, to do something that is illegal, in the State where they (the jobber) do business, and to misrepresent themselves to the “customer” while doing it?

Reply by Stamper_WI on 4/11/09 3:24pm
Msg #284498

Re: 21st / Question?

Think you answered that already LOL. My advice to everyone is to contact your states Dept of Finance or Dept of Banking for clarification on whether what they are doing is legal in your state. Also refer to the notary handbook. The part about 3rd party neutrality. Even though you are not notarizing there, you are there because you are a notary and the homeowner has been told that as well as that you are their " representative". Deceitful from the get go.

Reply by Notary/Guy on 4/11/09 11:16am
Msg #284475

4/9/2009 They have their phone reconnected. But, they pay with rubber checks. NC
4/7/2009 No confirmation sent-no record of signers' name or apt that was sceduled. FL
4/6/2009 I believe this company is scamming borrowers. Don't accept signings. NC
4/5/2009 Poor communication, unorganized FL
4/3/2009 Made good on bounced check plus my bank fee. AL
4/1/2009 Never received confirmation for signing.No calls.Then docs arrived today!NO way! HI
3/27/2009 Told client not to pay mortgage. Not to fill out forms just sign them . No More! WI
3/17/2009 pays on time, really, really hard to work with. doesn't return calls, bad comm. WA
3/17/2009 Never can get their act together & Borrowers must give ck or u do not get paid. NJ
3/16/2009 paid 1st two times and now 90 days late. NEVER AGAIN - RED FLAG TX
3/9/2009 Never received confirmation for accepted signing...very unprofessional! MO
3/6/2009 i personally think they rip off their "borrowers". won't EVER work for them TX
2/27/2009 Very questionable. Check them out on the BBB website NY
2/24/2009 Very fast pay, professional. OK
2/21/2009 company wants notary to represent self as customer service rep for the company. MI
2/18/2009 I never had a problem getting paid from them. NC
2/5/2009 Paid me within 18 days MA
2/4/2009 I like working with this company the job is easy and they pay on time CA
1/30/2009 I think they're shady, couldn't tell the client that I'm a Notary. CA
1/26/2009 http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre42.shtm VA
1/24/2009 They gave wrong address for job!! and now 45 days past due for my invoice. FL
1/2/2009 I have been contacted by this company and have decided not to accept any assignm TN
12/29/2008 Booked me for appt, but never sent confirm as promised - seem very disorganized VA

Reply by Carole Breckbill on 4/12/09 1:39pm
Msg #284575

Thanks to the kind of publicity and discussion on this site (and perhaps others?), I believe 21st Century is now having difficulty finding credible notaries to work for them. Keep up the good work!

Reply by Claudine Osborne on 4/12/09 8:31pm
Msg #284623

They called me last week sorry cannot work for them again! The last time they called it seems like there was a party going on. Very hard to hear the scheduler. Totally unprofessional! Of course you do not get paid if the singer does not have checks. I did a few of these back in Dec and I received fast payment. I would not work with them again because I do not and will not tell people I am their customer service rep! I do not like the fact that their is no confirmation, no information on the bo, then docs show up and you cannot reach anyone on the phone!

This is a company that I would prefer not call me anymore, the hassle is not worth it!

Reply by Denise Herrera on 5/6/09 3:25pm
Msg #287511

Hi Claudine, I respect you're opinion but my experoance as a notary working for 21st Century Legal Services I have always been able to get in contact with them. I honestly feel they are a very professional company.

Reply by GAMMYx3/MA on 4/13/09 5:06pm
Msg #284751

I have received 5 assignments from these folks....ONLY 1 has completed....Last assignment was for Saturday. Confirmed with the signer on Thursday. Spoke to the LO on Friday. was on my way to the location when I got a call from the signer saying he'd had second thoughts and was postponing. While he did apologize, I know that he had done some further research on them. One thing was upsetting to me is that I work with my notary mentality on whether I am doing a notarization or not....privacy, no opinion. He told me that the prior appointment had been cancelled "by the notary because 21st century is a bogus company and is a total scam". He asked me my opinion I told him that the bogus company has paid me in the past so I had no negative comments to make about them...Secretely I sure do but I sure as hell was not about to tell him that. My philosphy is buyer beware and they should research as much as possible. I had printed the documents and was on the road so I will be billing them for this as I told them I would. We'll see if I get paid.

Reply by Elizabeth Hernandez on 5/6/09 3:51pm
Msg #287517

I have done over 10 signing for them and 2 canceled before I got to the home, and 1 canceled while I was at the home. The signing that I was in the home I got paid half of my fee which is really nice of them because I did not spend much time there and the company did not make any money off of that deal. Honestly, you can not blame the company that the client canceled. People change their minds a lot that is why 21st Century Legal Services ask us notary to make contact with the client before going out to their home. I made contact and the 2 that canceled on the phone told me then. The one that canceled while I was at their home when I made contact they said yes and then on the appointment date I went and they changed their mind, I do not feel that is the companies fault. I will surly be working for them.

Reply by Yamileth Cruz on 4/14/09 9:01pm
Msg #285023

Hi Nan. I have worked with this company for several signings and so far I have not had a problem with the company. Everytime I have a question or concern I call them and I get help right away. Just make sure you keep in touch wih them and be patient with them and clients.
Good Luck to you.

Reply by Jake Brown on 4/16/09 12:54pm
Msg #285332

I have done some signings for this company and so far every thing has been good, two clients did cancel on me but I think that that is not the company's fault. I think that the client has the right to change there minds, because only they know how their situation really is. so far I like working with the company and i will keep working with them. so good luck.

Reply by Elizabeth Hernandez on 4/30/09 1:56pm
Msg #286849

I have done several signings for this company and I have never had a problem. There has been some people that would not sign when i was already at their home. I called the company and they paid me half which was fine by me. I will continue to work for 21st Century Legal Services as long as they call me. Thank You

Reply by Denise Herrera on 4/30/09 1:57pm
Msg #286851

I work with 21st Century Legal Services and they have always payed me on time without a problem. They make my job easy even sending me a direction sheet on how to feal out the documents for the customer. I will continue to work for them without a boubt.

Reply by Denise Herrera on 4/30/09 2:01pm
Msg #286853

I worked with 21st Century Legal Services and they have always payed me on time without a problem. They make my job easy even sending me a direction sheet on how to fill out the document for the customer. I will continue to work for them without a doudt.

Reply by Denise Herrera on 5/19/09 1:19pm
Msg #289087

On my opinion 21st century legal services really helps people with problems making they're house payments. I been working with this company for about 6 months and I haven't had a problem.