Posted by Nelson - Angela on 4/7/09 6:29pm
Msg #284027

Fox Signing Service

Good Day to everyone,

I did a closing on July 29, 2008 for this company and as of yet have not received payment. I have made numerous phone call and sent emails with no response. I have spoke to the BBB today only to be told this is not something they can handle. I also spoke with the wage board of PA and was told to file a lawsuit. THis would be the only way to receive my payment. I am not sure about anyone else but I feel by the time I pay the $95.00 filing fee hotel bill and airfare to get there I am out money. I was told by the wage board to get together eveyone that has not been paid and file one big lawsuit. THis way there is only one filing fee and only one person would have to attend the hearing, hopefully someone in or near PA. Is there anyone out there that would like to be a art of the lawsuit? I can have my lawyer draw up all the paperwork. Please let me know as this company needs to be stopped if they are not going to pay there bills.

Reply by BrendaTx on 4/7/09 6:51pm
Msg #284028

Hi Angela.

You're probably new to this site.

You're going to hear from a lot of people saying, "You should have done a search!" meaning that if you read this site, Fox is listed repeatedly as a sorry excuse for a contracting entity. They pay slow or not at all.

Do a little research on how to file a Texas small claims court lawsuit...that would be your best bet. It could be that since you performed the job in Texas you can sue in Texas.

Also, do a search on keywords here such as "deadbeat" and "collection letters" and you may get a little insight on how to collect from these types.

I've linked your post to "Fox" in Signing Central (at least I plan to when I finish my post). Good luck, and I'm sorry that happened.

Reply by Maureen_nh on 4/7/09 8:28pm
Msg #284037

Re: Hi Angela.

Their rating on signing central is three stars and if you just go by that and not look at the comments it might be a give them a try.
I do not see from what is shown now in the detailed comments how they got that rating.
Perhaps some of the earlier experiances (not shown) were better.

Reply by Lee/AR on 4/7/09 7:01pm
Msg #284029

You might try calling the TC and tattling. Sometimes it works; sometimes not. At this point, whacha got lose?

Reply by Ireneky on 4/7/09 7:09pm
Msg #284030

I had the same happen to me with them. I finally sent a letter saying that I was filing legal action and they paid. NNA has form letters if you are a member.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 4/7/09 7:16pm
Msg #284032

Sometimes, all it takes is a sternly worded letter sent via certified mail that they have x number of days to pay up or you are going to file a claim for a judgment in court.

I don't see an agent for service of process, but Per the PA corporation record... I'd send your letter to:

RICHARD DOBROSIELSKI JR, PRESIDENT
FOX SIGNING SERVICE, INC.
1239 MERCHANT ST
AMBRIDGE, PA 15003


Of course, you should be able and willing to actually file the paperwork...otherwise they'll figure you're bluffing. If you have an attorney who is willing to write that letter for you, even better. Pay him a few bucks for his time to compose a letter on your behalf. It will probably get the job done and you can avoid court.

Reply by CopperheadVA on 4/7/09 7:55pm
Msg #284034

Some notaries have reported success when they complete the small claims paperwork and fax it to the signing service with an admonition that it will be filed on XX date if payment is not received by then. Others have gone the extra step and included the title company and lender or broker on the small claims paperwork, faxing a copy to them as well, and then they of course get on the phone to the signing service and hotly demand to know what is going on. Signing service then pays up due to extreme embarrassment in front of their clients.

Do a search for message 270894 on this site and read the entire thread - lots of good info there!

Reply by Todd/OH on 4/7/09 8:21pm
Msg #284035

I was able to send some tough emails and that did it for me. My last invoice went out 111 days. I "swallowed" my tongue when I took the signing. It was literally around the corner.

They're on my "orange" going "red" list.

Reply by Todd/OH on 4/7/09 8:22pm
Msg #284036

Do research next time n/m

Reply by Michael Alix on 4/7/09 9:01pm
Msg #284040

I've done work for them, must have just been lucky, they paid me.

Reply by Stamper_WI on 4/7/09 9:28pm
Msg #284042

The last time a thread ran on them I put my 2 cents in. They have owed me for years. In fact one of the borrowers has since died and the other is a pastor. It was a long closing because the wife was legally blind and we took turns reading her the doc's.
Anyway I got an email from them asking what my beef was with them. So I emailed it all back to them...again. I got an email from Richard claiming I called the TC, which I probably did to confirm the closing and told them I was opening my own SS, which I was not. If anything I told them I was forming a network which is a whole different thing. So apparently that is why they are not paying me. I formed anetwork 6 months AFTER my payment was due from them.
So don't be surprized if you hear from them and they try to rattle your cage.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/7/09 9:55pm
Msg #284043

I only did one for them several years ago and I had to chase them for payment.

Reply by jojo_MN on 4/7/09 11:20pm
Msg #284048

They paid me in the past (not always in a timely manner), but this last time (signing on 12/11/08) have totally ignored my phone calls, faxes and emails. I called the TC (Direct Settlement Services). They told me that they already paid Fox for my services, so will not pay me and that I need to go thru my own channels to collect from them. They (DSS) also stated that I'm the only one complaining to them of non-payment. I find that hard to believe.

I also filed a complaint with the Commonwealth of PA with a CC to Fox after no responses from Fox. Still no reply.

When they called last time, I mentioned their non-payment issues with others, but was told "have we never paid you in the past?". Thought I would give them the benefit of the doubt since what she said was true. So much for trust!

I SO MUCH cherish the good companies and notaries I work with now!!!

Reply by Notary/Guy on 4/7/09 10:35pm
Msg #284046

4/6/2009 no pay, fax disconected, phone disconected, email responses include empty promis FL
4/5/2009 Money problems-slow pay-poor attitude about it-long standing problem. TN
4/5/2009 Did closing for them in Feb, still no pay. FL
3/6/2009 slow to pay.....never return calls....have 2 unpaid signings from previous year PA
2/19/2009 At first, they seemed okay, but they don't pay in a timely manner, and are rude PA
2/18/2009 C H E A P. haven't and won't accept any assignments from them. rude too TX
1/28/2009 slow to pay but lines of communication remained open. Paid after 2 months NC
1/21/2009 They do not pay the notary. Have many excuses. FL
1/8/2009 Low pay, slow pay, lots of excuses PA
1/8/2009 Do notpay. Hard to contact. LA
1/6/2009 Didn't pay,left mess 12/30, called 1/6/09 phones not in service IN
12/10/2008 they do not pay! Have invoices 3 months old and they will not return my calls! FL
11/20/2008 Website down, no response to calls did work 9/23/08 no contact yet 11/20/08 mult TX
10/17/2008 It's like pulling teeth to get them to pay you AR
9/27/2008 They used to pay right on time, now I have been waiting over 90 days OH
9/17/2008 did closing 7/25/08 pay rec. 9/17/09 reasonable time to get paid TN
9/10/2008 Slow in payments. Or not at all. WI
9/3/2008 Had to file with the JP to get payment TX
9/2/2008 Slow Pay; Terrible communication PA
8/28/2008 Late pay (45+ days), Accounting Dept only works 1-15 of month, Bad Company TX
7/17/2008 Great to work with. PA
6/7/2008 No problems, get assignment, do work, get paid, no problems to date - 3 years. PA
5/22/2008 Nice on the phone. Do not call accounts receivables. LA
5/1/2008 Promise to pay from Rich and Bree, still waiting, very unprofessional TN
4/6/2008 done closing pd on time PA
3/28/2008 Owner questioned my mentality for believing these forums on payment history MN
3/20/2008 Low pay/do not want to pay for time & printing when job doesn't close VA
2/19/2008 very rude, very unprofessional on the phone TX
2/16/2008 very unorganized, non payers NY
2/9/2008 They are paying better now-had problems a while back TN
1/10/2008 still owed payment on last 5 loans...always says check on the way IN
12/14/2007 Had to fight for each payment, seems like a trash company with no respect. MD
12/12/2007 Don't pay FL
11/30/2007 very slow pay had to call alot CA
11/13/2007 Low fees, difficult to talk to somebody about your payment FL
10/23/2007 Very Slow Pay TX
10/19/2007 non payment issue, have tried several times to contact, no response and no pay! FL
10/5/2007 cannot get them to pay or to return calls MD
9/26/2007 Did a lot of work for them, paid rarely, always promised would be. TX
9/26/2007 WORST WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING. finished since 6/05 PA
9/23/2007 Very slow pay and a man name Rich claim I would get paid but talked about nothin MO
9/19/2007 very slow pa. Had to have State contact them before they paid me. VA
8/23/2007 Do not pay as promised...have to call every time in order to get paid AL
8/8/2007 Signed April, it's Aug., still not paid. I've called 4 times. AL
8/8/2007 Non Payment for services rendered. They won't talk about any payment issue. AZ
8/7/2007 Low Fees, but pays PA
7/27/2007 Signed Jan, paid June CT
7/24/2007 Non payment for services. Refusal to talk on payment issues WI

Reply by Sandra Clark on 4/8/09 9:10am
Msg #284057

See pm just sent ref. Fox

Reply by davidK/CA on 4/8/09 11:39am
Msg #284070

The scrivener is back.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/8/09 11:44am
Msg #284071

Yup

Best just to ignore him and not read his posts.

Reply by Dawn Patterson on 7/7/09 11:15am
Msg #294866

Angela,

I am with you! I am definitely interested. They MUST be stopped!

Reply by Debbie Greene on 9/9/09 2:55pm
Msg #303298

I have free air fare and hotel and I would be glad to go there for a hearing, etc.
Just get the paperwork ready! They owe me $225.00