Posted by Leon_CO on 2/12/09 9:21pm
Msg #277371
DNA testing
I got a call this evening to do DNA testing. What the heck, I'll give it a try.
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Reply by Philip Johnson on 2/12/09 9:37pm
Msg #277372
DNA testing for you?
Have you thought through the what ifs?
1. What if you have some sort of gene that is a precursor to some sort of bad disease? This information could make you health or life or both un-insurable.
2. What if they come up with something that "may" effect you later in life? I'm not sure I'd want to think that every time I had a memory lapse that it was the first sign of dementia.
3. The up side could be that if you have a certain gene that causes some disease, you could be vigilant for the symptoms.
4. I'm a firm believer in ignorance is bliss when it comes to DNA testing, so for me I'll pass.
Good luck on the test and make sure that you have the strictest confidence agreement you can muster with the lab and the interpreter.
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/12/09 9:52pm
Msg #277373
Re: DNA testing for you?
No. This is a notary assignment. The notary takes part in doing the DNA testing. I'm still reading through the training.
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Reply by Michelle/AL on 2/12/09 10:07pm
Msg #277375
Re: DNA testing for you?
Leon, I signed up with Genelex last year to provide a similar service. Haven't received any calls yet. Seems easy enough though. If you find that you want to do more of this sort of work you may want to register with them.
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Reply by LadyGill/PA on 2/12/09 10:07pm
Msg #277376
Re: DNA testing for you?
Why does the Notary take part, what is the purpose and are notaries allowed to engage in this type of practice? What type of training are you taking? Please explain, this is the first for me is this something happening only in CO?
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/12/09 10:18pm
Msg #277378
Re: DNA testing for you?
Yes, Genelex is the company. The notary verifies the identities of the persons providing the DNA samples. The notary also has to take photos of each person. There is no medical training involved. The notary is pretty much a witness and a courier.
But who knows what this could lead to?
CSI: Colorado Springs 
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Reply by LKT/CA on 2/13/09 1:40am
Msg #277389
Re: DNA testing for you?
I did a notary assignment like this for the now defunct Coversign Corp. Nothing to notarize, the participants have the home kit O/N. I just showed up, watched them take the test, waited 15 minutes and donned gloves to put the very long Q-tip type swabs in special respective sleeves, verifed ID, gathered a current photo they already had, signed the paperwork saying I verified the ID and watched them take the test - sealed it all and dropped it at the shipper. Easy....
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Reply by Sharon Taylor on 2/12/09 10:31pm
Msg #277379
Fascinating, Leon - yet another aspect to notary work
I would never have thought an independent notary would be called on for that type of an assignment - just figured the company doing the DNA testing would be taking care of all the ID issues.
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Reply by sue_pa on 2/13/09 7:40am
Msg #277395
Re: Fascinating, Leon - yet another aspect to notary work
...just figured the company doing the DNA testing would be taking care of all the ID issues. ...
Seems to me they would too. I'm guessing do it yourself at home DNA testing isn't going to hold up other than in "baby's mama drama" situations or other type "personal " issues.
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Reply by Becca_FL on 2/13/09 9:31am
Msg #277402
Sue is absolutely correct.
There are two types of DNA tests to determine paternity. In order for the test results to be admissible in court the samples must be drawn or witnessed by an uninterested third party. This is commonly known as a legal DNA test. A private DNA test (in home test collected by the parties being tested) does not meet the requirements of a legal test in most states.
I have been collecting DNA samples for court ordered paternity testing for almost a year.
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/13/09 9:48am
Msg #277406
Who cares?
>> A private DNA test (in home test collected by the parties being tested) does not meet the requirements of a legal test in most states. <<
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It's not the notary's role to determine if a DNA test is legal or not. I could care less.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/13/09 10:07am
Msg #277409
Re: Who cares?...Leon?
>> A private DNA test (in home test collected by the parties being tested) does not meet the requirements of a legal test in most states. <<
The legal system cares if the samples and tests are legally admissible or not - that's why they contract notaries, etc - disinterested third parties....thought that was fairly obvious...
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/13/09 10:09am
Msg #277411
Re: Who cares?...Leon?
The only thing that I'm required to do as a notary is do my job. I don't question the methods or the legality of the process. That is not my concern.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/13/09 10:10am
Msg #277413
Re: Who cares?...Leon?
Hmmm...guess you really DON'T get it -
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/13/09 10:12am
Msg #277415
Re: Who cares?...Leon?
The only thing that I'm supposed to "get" is get paid. That's all I'm concerned about.
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Reply by Becca_FL on 2/13/09 10:12am
Msg #277414
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/13/09 10:13am
Msg #277416
Re: Leon, you are SOOOO missing the point!
I know I'm just a witness. I said that ages ago.
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Reply by Becca_FL on 2/13/09 10:08am
Msg #277410
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Reply by Leon_CO on 2/13/09 10:10am
Msg #277412
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Reply by MW/VA on 2/13/09 12:37pm
Msg #277424
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Reply by Bob_Chicago on 2/13/09 8:54am
Msg #277398
Makes sense to me for them to want NSAs for this. We
are :
1. qualified to verify ID
2. accustomed to going to peoples homes/workplaces
3. capable of following instructions
4 responsible
5 reliable
6 brave
7 honest
8 trustworthy , etc etc
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Reply by Becca_FL on 2/13/09 9:56am
Msg #277407
True, Bob, but...
some states require that the specimen collector have sample collection experience or require the collector to be a phlebotomist. Florida requires at least 2 years of specimen collection experience and NY has some real specific laws.
If you have an interest in this here are a few things to consider:
You will be dealing with angry alleged fathers, suspicious grandmothers, nervous mothers and snot nosed, screaming, crying kids. Be prepared.
You will also subject yourself to viewing nasty, dirty, foul mouths that haven't seen a dentist in years. Be prepared.
Most labs require you to have your own supplies. Be prepared.
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Reply by CopperheadVA on 2/13/09 10:03am
Msg #277408
Re: True, Bob, but...
Hi Becca,
I'm curious - what do these DNA collection appts typically pay?
Thanks!
Linda
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Reply by Becca_FL on 2/13/09 10:25am
Msg #277418
I will call to discuss if I get a collection in your area. n/m
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Reply by CopperheadVA on 2/13/09 10:52am
Msg #277422
Re: I will call to discuss if I get a collection in your area.
I actually MEANT to send that as a PM!!!
Thanks, though!
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