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Posted by CH2inCA on 7/30/09 3:06pm
Msg #298135

Feel like I've just been B**slapped!

I got a call from a gent last night; his father is in a St prison close by; and they'd like to know if I can go out there and notarize a POA. Drawing on the posts I've read here, my brain is thinking, milage, credentials, clearence, ID issues, can't help draw POA they must send it to me.......

I tell him I'm willing, but I'm not sure if I have the proper credentials to be allowed in, and that they must send me the POA, I can't help him put that together. But I will research by calling the prison, find out what I need and get back to him today. Meanwhile last night I read everything I could find HERE about doing this type of job.

He's ok with this, he'll go get the form, send it to me; I'll get back to him regarding access to his father to get this done. I even ask if he'd like to be referred to another notary that I know is close by and does legal document prep work. (I've seen her profile here, and on another directory, though I don't know her personally) No, he's fine would like me to find out what I can...please.

Called the facility, couldn't get through. Finally today I leave a message with their litigation dept tell them what I've been asked to do. Ask how should I proceed? ''

I get a call back (voicemail), saying it's not allowed. The prison has their own notaries and outsiders are not allowed in..."They have a procedure"

Ok. I'm not really chomping at the bit to do this, but the gent seems nice; I have time tomorrow... So, in an effort to give the potential client as much information as possible, to facilitate this for them, even though I will not get the job or fee (by the way the son is in Riverside, we are here in the Central Valley). I called the prison's litigation dept back.

I introduce myself; and rudely she says, "Outside notaries are not allowed."
Ok, can I tell this gentelman to call a certain notary at the facility? Call this department? Can I tell him what the procedure is?

NO

I can't tell him who to call? No
Do you have one notary, two notaries....a whole department of notaries?
I know this question wasn't important, but I was getting a bit miffed.

She said that was confidential information. I said, Notories PUBLIC.... the total number of STATE hired notories is confidential?

Not here they're not. These notories are not public.

Ok

Now what really wierd is that yesterday I got TWO calls about doing POA's at this facility, by two different potential clients. One of them was a social worker calling on behalf of the inmate and he said he [inmate] wanted a notary because he didn't trust their notary.

My plan is to call and let the Riverside gent know I can't do the signing. But I'll keep my mouth shut about the rest of this. Odd though don't you think?


Reply by CH2inCA on 7/30/09 3:34pm
Msg #298138

Let me apologize in advance for the spelling errors…I can’t spell and be outraged at the same time.

I really need an edit button...please!!

Reply by notaryinmo on 7/30/09 3:42pm
Msg #298139

Sounds to me like the gatekeeper is doing his/her job very well. No information at all except to tell you it's not allowed, they have their own notaries. As far as notaries being non-public, well - in MO, that wouldn't fly too well.

On the contrary, if your potential client asks why you can't be the notary he prefers, I would not hesitate to apprise him of the brick wall you've come up against.

Reply by CH2inCA on 7/30/09 3:53pm
Msg #298145

Ah! That is exactly why it's beneficial to post here. You are right, she is the keeper of the gate!

The rude part? Oh well, no biggie there I guess.

Reply by notaryinmo on 7/30/09 3:56pm
Msg #298147

oops - I should have spelled out Missouri instead of using abbreviations which could also be "my opinion" Sorry

Reply by rengel/CA on 7/30/09 3:45pm
Msg #298141

I think I might call the SOS to ask about non-public notaries. And, if you can be barred from a notarization at a prison.

I have one of the attornies from the SOS coming to speak to the Legal Secretary Assn. I am a member of. Maybe I'll ask him at our meeting in about 3 weeks.

My .02

Reply by A S Johnson on 7/30/09 5:24pm
Msg #298154

In Texas, State agencies have "notaries". Difference is re they do NOT have a bond and can only do notaries act allowed in the proformance of thier jobs. The can Not do notaries act for the public.
I have done some mortgage re-fis for employees of prisions and other agencies that deal with those who have had thier movenments restricted (ie a parole officer).

Reply by Maureen_nh on 7/30/09 11:02pm
Msg #298204

I have no idea about thr regs in the state of CA or their jails--but this sounds like a personal matter and not one of these inmate files all these legal briefs things.
Might not do any good for this instance, but for your own information, give the local bar asso a call and see what they say.

Reply by Donna LaBelle on 7/31/09 4:08am
Msg #298209

call the SOS and ask them what is up. Especially with CA budget issues and all the cutbacks, maybe they should cut back on State employees as notaries there are plenty of notaries in CA so the state doesn't need any of their own. Wonder how many thousands or millions of dollars they could save there?

Reply by CF on 7/31/09 11:10am
Msg #298239

Why would you do any of the other things listed above? Do you really care...do you really want to go to a prison...do you really want to notarize something for a criminal...do you really want the hassle.....do you want someone coming back to you and asking you about the prison procedures? I think not....leave it alone!!!!!! It is a prison for gods sake...they have their own set of rules!!!!

Certainly any employee that is notary for the prison is doing another job too. They are just not sitting around and stamping for inmates all day long. I am sure they have other duties too.





 
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