Posted by talula on 7/16/09 4:53pm Msg #296122
Power of Attorney
How much do you normally charge for Power of Attorney notarization? This is my 1st one. I am traveling about 12 miles from residence to a Skilled Nursing Home
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Reply by MW/VA on 7/16/09 5:04pm Msg #296123
I treat a POA like any other notarization. Our state fee is $5 per notarization. I am a mobile notary, and I have a minimum $25 fee w/travel. I get calls from a nursing/rehab facility near my home. It is close-by and I usually make an exception to my fees in these situations, and charge a nominal fee. This is is phase of my business I consider public service. Does your state allow "travel fees"?
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Reply by talula on 7/16/09 6:00pm Msg #296130
Our state fee is $5 per notarization in Oklahoma as well. What if I have two POA to sign at the nursing home, I quoted $50 per POA. Is this okay. I felt that if I am going to do them I would charge $50.
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Reply by Lee/AR on 7/16/09 5:51pm Msg #296129
Your first one! Might be preaching to the choir, but be very careful that the signer is completely competant, aware, and can tell you what they are signing and...before you make that trip...has valid ID.
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Reply by talula on 7/16/09 6:05pm Msg #296131
I spoke with the Daughter and the mother that is at the Skilled Nursing home, can only sign with an X. I called the association and was told as long as she can sign her name with an X, that would be okay and I needed two witnesses. I explained to the daughter that I would need to forms of identification, a DL or State identification with a Social Security card and she replied, stating all of this information was misplaced." To my understanding as long as I completed an oath of acknowlegment swearing this is the person to a family member that would be okay? Is this correct. I also quoted POA of $50 per POA as because I wanted to be certain. What do you think?
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Reply by sue_pa on 7/16/09 6:32pm Msg #296135
I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
...I explained to the daughter that I would need to forms of identification, a DL or State identification with a Social Security card and she replied, stating all of this information was misplaced." To my understanding as long as I completed an oath of acknowlegment swearing this is the person to a family member that would be okay? ...
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Reply by BrendaTx on 7/16/09 6:37pm Msg #296136
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
I'm curious as to what association gave that information...just being nosy.
I have never heard of an Oath of Acknowledgment for identity but I learn something every day. Maybe talula will expand on this...maybe it is an Okla. thing.
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Reply by talula on 7/16/09 6:47pm Msg #296138
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
It is also considered sufficient identification if, under oath, a credible witness personally known to the notary public identifies the person. I did not mean an acknowledgment form. in this case it could be a RN at the facility.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 7/16/09 7:28pm Msg #296145
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
" this case it could be a RN at the facility" who may or may not be allowed to be involved .... and do you personally know this RN? That's the stipulation for use of one credible witness - must be personally known to you AND must be able to swear that the lady is who she says she is....
Be very careful here.
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Reply by talula on 7/16/09 6:47pm Msg #296139
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
It is also considered sufficient identification if, under oath, a credible witness personally known to the notary public identifies the person. I did not mean an acknowledgment form. in this case it could be a RN at the facility.
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Reply by Les_CO on 7/16/09 7:02pm Msg #296142
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
Careful with that….most Hospitals / Nursing / Continuing Care facilities will NOT let any employee be a witness, or take an oath of any kind, or have any involvement of any kind with POAs, wills, affidavits or other ‘legal’ documents regarding one of their patients.
And If you want my advise (probably not) given what you have stated, and your apparent knowledge on the subject, I think that I just would apologize to the people and not do this.
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Reply by BrendaTx on 7/16/09 7:44pm Msg #296147
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
*And If you want my advise (probably not) given what you have stated, and your apparent knowledge on the subject, I think that I just would apologize to the people and not do this.*
May be the best advice yet. There's nothing wrong with turning down one of these.
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Reply by MW/VA on 7/16/09 9:53pm Msg #296163
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
I agree. You are indicating that you don't know how to handle it, yet want a huge (& IMO excessive) fee for it. POA's are a delicate matter & have serious legal & financial considerations. I wouldn't touch it without ID & witnesses that were not family members.
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Reply by CF on 7/16/09 7:32pm Msg #296146
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
Exactly how are you going to know a person that knows the person with no ID that is signing the POA?
In your example how would you know the RN? In my past experience, the facility will not allow their employees to act as witness to any legal matters like this. The witness' must be provided by the family.
Again past experience here....I have turned down many POA requests at facilities b/c the person did not have a picture ID. You are really going out on a limb to make $100.00 that could cost you your livelihood, if this comes back to bite you.
No ID- No way!!!!!! Refer them back to their Attorney that prepared the POA.
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Reply by Sandra Olson on 7/16/09 8:14pm Msg #296149
Re: I'll be polite and just say ... oh my ...
I am an OK girl been and notary 7 years. Having said that I'm going to say go back to your state book and reread and follow the advice you are getting. $100.00 for traveling 12 miles and absolutely crazy and you are jeopardizing your license for nothing because they will have no sympathy for you when you get called on the line for this.
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Reply by talula on 7/16/09 6:05pm Msg #296132
I am out of Oklahoma
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Reply by Les_CO on 7/16/09 6:17pm Msg #296133
I usually charge $20…sometimes nothing for Nursing Home/Continuing Care stuff depending on the signer’s circumstance. Be careful and follow your States rules for ID, and competence.
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Reply by Dawn/PA on 7/17/09 6:53am Msg #296202
As stated, you must be very careful when going to a nursing home. I was at one not long ago, and was "told" by the close friend that she aware, etc. I get there and guess what? She so was so drugged, she had no idea where she was, let alone, the year or who was president. Her doctor happened to come by and was not going to let me anywhere near the patient to sign anything - not that I was going to notarize the document.
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