Posted by John Schenk on 7/2/09 3:38pm
Msg #294421

When you "think" times are hard....watch this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MslbhDZoniY

Reply by Jim/AL on 7/2/09 3:49pm
Msg #294424

God is awesome and so is Nick, thanks John. n/m

Reply by John Schenk on 7/2/09 4:01pm
Msg #294426

YW, and I couldn't agree more. n/m

Reply by Cam/CA on 7/2/09 4:19pm
Msg #294427

Nick is one amazing person n/m

Reply by Becca_FL on 7/2/09 4:23pm
Msg #294428

OT post belong on the leisure forum please. n/m

Reply by John Schenk on 7/2/09 9:41pm
Msg #294498

Probably does, but I knew nobody would mind this post but U.

Have a great 4th of July Weekend all! Count your blessings!

We had a couple here, the man was a preacher, that walked out on the train tracks yesterday and committed suicide, holding each other in their arms as a train ran them over.

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2009/jul/02/pastor-wife-kill-selves-train/

Can't imagine what would make a couple do that, especially in front of a SLOW moving train. Sometimes a post like this one helps people keep things in perspective.

I do agree that it probably should have been posted on the Leisure board, but tomorrow is a holiday, so figured it would slide without a derogatory comment, but I suppose not.

IF you watched that video, you probably shed a tear...I did. If anyone here, including you, could watch it and not be moved by it, then I feel sorry for you, but I hope we don't hear you've been on the train tracks.

Have a Wonderful 4th of July weekend!

God bless!

JJ

Reply by JanetLA on 7/2/09 9:45pm
Msg #294500

Actually many people will likely prefer it to be in Leisure n/m

Reply by Linda Juenger on 7/2/09 10:54pm
Msg #294505

John, this couple displayed the most cowardly way of killing

themselves. I know first hand how committing suicide this way affects so many people in so many ways.

We had a young man a couple years ago do the very same thing. My husband is Fire Chief here and our son was 14 at the time. When the call came in that someone had been hit by a train, my son wanted to go with his dad. My husband said no, but our son insisted on going with his dad. Well, that turned out to be one of the most traumatic thing my son has ever seen and will never ever forget it. He was one of about 30 fireman walking miles down the tracks looking for body parts. A hand here, a foot there, an arm down the way. For someone to take their own life this way is just cowardly. My son couldn't sleep for nights after that and some firemen had a hard time with it also. They do not think of the many, many emergency personnel this affects in many ways.
Just take a bunch of pills or sit in your car with engine running in your garage, but please don't do it a way that everyone else has to pick you up off the ground piece by piece. It's too bad that they did it this way. Sad

Reply by John Schenk on 7/2/09 11:10pm
Msg #294507

Linda, I could not agree with you more!

I agree with everything you said, and you also have to add the engineer of the train and the others on the train with him, in addition to the emergency personnel and law enforcement and everyone else that may have come to the scene. Horrible way to die, and a horrible way to treat those that have to deal with your death. I agree...pop some pills, spend a couple bullets, suck some carbon monoxide, don't bring tons of people into it to pick up pieces and parts.

No idea what the underlying reason for it was, but many times there isn't in suicides. Maybe they'll find a note. I could think of a lot of ways I'd rather go than have a slow moving train run over me. I'd at least make sure that when I died that m life insurance policy would have to pay off. Their actions affected many people.

JJ

Reply by JanetK_CA on 7/2/09 11:11pm
Msg #294508

Re: John, this couple displayed the most cowardly way of killing

Better yet, get some help and don't do it at all!!! There's always someone worse off and there's always a way to deal with whatever the problem might be, even though some might not think so...

Reply by John Schenk on 7/2/09 11:29pm
Msg #294511

Definitely agree...you're speakin to the choir. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 7/3/09 12:04am
Msg #294513

John, I wish you'd have posted in Leisure. FWIW

We've had a history of not being able to parse through to read notary-related posts due to all the OT posts.

That's why Harry created Leisure. It was heretofore making a mess of the board.

It's just a respect thing...and sort of like a mullet haircut....business in the front, party in the back...business in "Discuss Work" ... OT in "Leisure".

Reply by notaryinmo on 7/3/09 7:46am
Msg #294520

Re: John, I wish you'd have posted in Leisure. FWIW

I too wished you had posted this in Leisure. It's one thing to have it happened to a couple who decided it was their time to go. It shouldn't have been their decision - that decision is best left up to a higher power.

However, to have you post on a the "Discuss Work" section of this professional website that many of use peruse to gain useful knowledge about someone committing suicide is beyond comprehension to me.

The people are dead by their own hand. Why give them any publicity after the fact? I supposed I'd have to question on why you really posted it - I don't see any correlation other than bring up a morbid retelling of a gruesome story.

Reply by jba/fl on 7/3/09 10:39am
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Re: John, I wish you'd have posted in Leisure. FWIW

"I suppose I'd have to question on why you really posted it - I don't see any correlation other than bring up a morbid retelling of a gruesome story. "

It is bad enough that you enjoy your own posts more than anyone elses and are constantly chattering on and on to the detriment of the entire forum causing a lot of unnecessary sifting for content in which one is actually interested, but to throw in gruesome posts that belong elsewhere is really pushing the envelop beyond limits of credibility.

If this is to be expected of you, then there is no point in reading anything you post as one does not know what to expect during the course of of the know3ledge-gathering part of the business day.

Poor taste. But that also goes with the constant bragging of how great you are, how much you charge, how many signings you do, who you and your family are connected with, and so on. You are a pompous gasbag, rattling chains not sabers.

We, by and large, are looking for content that is meaningful to our business lives. If we want politics, we go to the Just Politics Forum; fun and games: Leisure Forum. You should try it.

Reply by CaliNotary on 7/3/09 1:07pm
Msg #294563

Ditto with me

Good lord, you are a blowhard. You're the notaryrotary version of Cliff Claven.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 7/3/09 3:50pm
Msg #294576

A big "Amen" to that!

John, you have posted some interesting, helpful content. However, that seems to be the minority of your posts. Most of it is just chatter and responses to other useless chatter. If you look at the number of times you post compared to most others, it's no contest. What people are trying to tell you is that the leisure forum was created for that purpose, to provide us a "water cooler" where we can chit chat, banter back and forth, and no one cares. We prefer to see this board limited to meaningful content, 'cause many of us don't want to have to spend that much time sifting through to find what's useful, work-related and worth reading and what is just passing the time.

You also might want to consider creating a personal blog, if you like to write about what's going on in your life. Some with time on their hands are likely to find it interesting and some of your stuff can be amusing, but if it's not work related, it doesn't belong here.

Reply by John Schenk on 7/4/09 10:32pm
Msg #294622

I APOLOGIZE for posting an OT post in the Work Forum..

Shouldn't have done it, but I figured things would be slow during the Fourth weekend. MY BAD. I actually forgot there are other boards.

YOU EACH have MY MOST HUMBLE APOLOGY for not posting the post on the Leisure Board. Other than that, I have nothing to apologize for regarding the post.

Have a great weekend! WONDERFUL fireworks display here tonight! Hope you're ALL having a wonderful FOURTH WEEKEND!

God bless!

JJ

Reply by John Schenk on 7/8/09 12:45am
Msg #294953

Don't know how to link this, but a reply in another post...

Re: Did you ever see such authorities on suicide in your life?
Posted by John Schenk of TX on 7/8/09 12:21am Msg #7822
Brenda, I'm VERY sorry for your loss! I can't imagine losing someone that way, and my post was not meant to be belittling of the pains that are caused by such an act.

My post, admittedly in the wrong forum as I never read this one and it appeared to be seldom used, had to do with a Wonderful act of courage, and perseverance, by a man that easily Could have committed suicide in his life, yet He made his life meaningful, and helpful, to other people through his inspiring actions.

As for the preacher and his wife that committed suicide via a train that I posted, it was only meant to be the flip side of an analogy of one person that in spite of such terrible circumstances made his life work, and helped and inspired others, where these folks chose to commit suicide together. I am told it was not because of some glorious reason that they did it, but that is yet to be published so I can't state the facts behind their suicide until that has been stated with some certainty, which actually may never happen.

It was a post of Irony. Just a post meant to say that no matter how bad this business may ever get that there is hope. THAT was MY train of thought, and NO other. NO crazy meaning, as suggested in that thread. It was MEANT to be UPLIFTING and make people feel fortunate, although it wasn't taken that way by some.

In MY Mind, that post was meant to be inspirational with the Irony of the wonderful man that overcame his obstacles in life, and still continues to do so, and the folks that took the exit as they did.

I suppose I had these thoughts in mind at the time I posted that:

1. My Mother, 79, has Alzheimers;
2. My Mother had just had 6 skin cancers removed that were all malignant;
3; My Dad, at 81, is healthy as a horse and his only medication he takes is children's aspirin daily.
4. My Dad is an unrelentless caregiver to my Mom, and I don't now what he would do without her.

On THAT particular day when I made THAT particular post, I was wondering what my Dad would do when he knew he would lose his wife, my Mom.

Although, at the time that post was made, I had no idea of what may be the reason these folks stood in front of that train, THIS was one thing that came into my mind, and I could see My Father Holding My Mother, and dying with her in his arms, in some fashion...although I don't think this would ever be the kind of way he would do it if he/they ever did it.

THAT was what was going through my mind as I made that post, FWIW.

I'm very sorry for any pain that I caused any of you in that post, as that was NOT IN ANY way MY INTENT! I offer you my MOST SINCERE APOLOGIES to anyone that post hurt! I DO hope that my explanation of what was going through my mind helps you to understand the thought behind the post.

John Schenk