Posted by Laura_V on 11/18/09 10:08am
Msg #311375

Commissioners of Oaths. PAW? Others?

I recently learned that Commissioners of Oaths in Canada might or might not also be notaries.

It's like California: you can simultaneously be a notary and an ordained minister. So you can be a notary who performs weddings.

What the scoup on notaries and commissioners of oaths in the US?

Anyone know?

Reply by jba/fl on 11/18/09 10:15am
Msg #311376

Time for Robert to step forward...he has written on this. n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 11/18/09 10:17am
Msg #311377

oops - sorry, Commissioner of Deeds was Robert.

Guess it is not the same. Sorry

Reply by PAW on 11/18/09 10:24am
Msg #311380

I'm not familiar with "Commissioners of Oaths" - Sorry n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/18/09 10:25am
Msg #311381

A quick google leads me to believe a Commissioner of Oaths is the equivalent of the American Notary Public..from wikianswers...

"The requirements vary by jurisdiction, but a Commissioner for Oaths (aka Commissioner of Oaths) is an officer appointed by the government who can administer oaths. It is similar to a notary public in the United States"

As I said - a QUICK google...

Reply by Maureen_nh on 11/18/09 11:46am
Msg #311384

We have what is called a Commisioner of Deeds--you do not have to be a resident

POWERS OF A COMMISSIONER OF DEEDS

Every Commissioner of Deeds shall have the power to:

Administer oaths, both in and out of New Hampshire for documents that will be used in New Hampshire;

Take depositions and affidavits to be used in New Hampshire;

Take acknowledgement of deeds or instruments to be used or recorded in New Hampshire in the same manner and with the same effect as a justice of the peace has in New Hampshire.

While RSA 455 does not require a Commissioner of Deeds to use a seal when making acknowledgements, RSA 456-B The Uniform Law on Notarial Acts does require the use of a seal. We recommend that when performing an act as a Commissioner of Deeds, you do so under your official seal.

Reply by PAW on 11/18/09 12:09pm
Msg #311389

Commissioner of Deeds is not the same as a Commissioner for Oaths. Different animals.

Reply by Laura_V on 11/18/09 2:06pm
Msg #311397

This is extremely helpful, Maureen

It turns out that some UCC1 codes can be used to stall foreclosure while homeowners prepare their court cases against their lenders. Some families are truly winning these cases and keeping their homes.

Attorneys are not absolutely necessary so people can afford to get cheaper help. Many are preparing their own court cases and getting free mentoring from volunteers. There are some very smart retired people who are helping families facing foreclosure full time for free. This is happening all over the US. Even some working age people like me are trying to help, at least a little bit.

But oaths and mostly-administrative chores are absolutely necessary. But since only around 4 states allow notaries to be involved in this type of conflict resolution, lots of good people's hands are tied, including the people who read this forum.

There's no money in it for attorneys and notaries in around 46 states can't do it. So that's why we are not hearing about it. (I can't do it in WA but I like helping people when I can by spreading the word and gathering info, like today.)

YOU just said that people in New Hampshire can be helped there. Hurray!

I'll pass the info along to some important people all over North America (yes, there are some brilliant Canadians who are helping, too) and they are spreading the word AND saving homes!

Thank you!
LauraV

Reply by BrendaTx on 11/18/09 2:45pm
Msg #311401

I don't know why I know this

and don't have time to look it up right at this moment, but I can administer oaths...that is, Texas Notaries can.

Reply by JanetLA on 11/18/09 7:06pm
Msg #311437

Louisiana notaries can administer oaths

prepare wills, real estate acts, and any other instrument in writing. We have a very intense 4-5 hour exam as well. You can check out some of it on our SOS website. Happy end of month and Thanksgiving to you all.

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 2:57pm
Msg #311403

Wonder if Canada's Commissioners of Oaths might be something like our Dedimus Justices . . can administer oaths but may not necessarily also be a notary. And notary may not necessarily also be a Dedimus Justice.

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 3:01pm
Msg #311405

Re: P.S. Dedimus Justice is unique to Maine n/m

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 3:08pm
Msg #311408

Re: Notary Publics in Canada

BTW, has anyone googled notaries public in Canada . . take a look at the requirements!

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 3:09pm
Msg #311409

Re: Correction: Notaries Public in Canada n/m

Reply by Laura_V on 11/18/09 4:53pm
Msg #311418

The are like our paralegals and notaries in one; BC, Italy.

The notaries in BC can write real estate contracts, create wills, and other serious documents only our paralegals (and Louisiana notaries) can do.

I heard they go to school for a few years before taking a serious test (a mini bar exam), but I could be wrong.

And Sylvia told us all quite awhile ago that the number of licenses is limited. (Which is crazy as BC's population is exploding.

Notaries in Italy are this way too. They are often the anchor people in real estate deals: they are like notaries, paralegals, and TCs in one. Notary licenses / commissions / whatever there are usually handed down to family members. In cities with very expensive real estate, like Rome and Venice, lots of the notaries are shockingly corrupt.


The mystery books by Donna Leon are fun and fascinating reads to learn about the types of things that can happen when Italian notaries are involved. She lives there and I think she is an English professor near Venice and she has a high moral code. I think all but one of her books are set Venice, so if you have visited the city (like me) the imagery is wonderful. You can almost feel the moist air. Almost all the libraries carry them. Read them oldest to newest.

Reply by Laura_V on 11/18/09 4:40pm
Msg #311417

Wow! Dedimum Justices

This is a new term to me! Thanks! I'll wikipedia it and talk to my UCC1 contacts.

Maine may be on board to help people save their homes! Yippee!

Reply by Laura_V on 11/18/09 4:59pm
Msg #311421

Parker: wiki has zip. Any urls?

I'd love a few tips to get a push start on Google.

Thanks!!!

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 7:26pm
Msg #311449

Re: Parker: wiki has zip. Any urls?

Here's a couple of links to start with:

www.dedimusjustice.org/dedimus.html

www.toddtolhurst.com/notary_dedimus.html

Other Google links just show you how to find them in Maine.

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 7:28pm
Msg #311451

Re: Parker: wiki has zip. Any urls?

Laura . . I think the reason you found zip in Wikipedia is the spelling .. it's Dedimus Justice . . with an "s" instead of "mum".

Reply by parkerc/ME on 11/18/09 7:46pm
Msg #311458

Re: You're right. Wikipedia Dedimus Justice = zilch n/m