Posted by BrendaTx on 9/4/09 5:11pm
Msg #302937

Electronic Notarization: No apostille possibility, in Tx

anyhow. If a document is electronically notarized by a Texas notary the SoS cannot authenticate it.

I was curious and asked the question. Interesting, eh?

Reply by dickb/wi on 9/4/09 8:21pm
Msg #302949

very and i'll bet that holds true in wi also......... n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 9/4/09 8:41pm
Msg #302950

As I dig into this topic I am finding

many reasons not to invest in an electronic seal for the avg notary. However, I have decided if I do in the next few months I will go with: http://wwnotary.com .

I talked to their sales dept. today and was enlightened tremendously. The only state they cannot issue a seal for is Kansas, as I understand it.

But in weighing all things, my best instinct tells me, "Just wait. Do not invest in hype." Remember Betamax vs. VCS? I think this is similar.

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 9/4/09 10:52pm
Msg #302958

Don't recall all of the details, but I remember that ...

Susan Pense ( the wonderful lady to whom all NSAs shuld be forever
beholden, as the "founder" of the NSA business), determined that there
was now a firm answer as to electroic notarizaton, and that we should all
get on board and invest in one specific company's hardware.
Victoria Rivera , who authored the original NSA Bible, (Just Point And Sign)
and for whom I will always have a great deal of respect, also recommended a certain
company's hardware as the firm solution to the future of electroic notarization.
She was convinced that the search was over. (Not sure if it was the same company)
I believe, that a least one person who currently posts on NOTROT, jumped on board
and invested in the system. I think that that person ultimately used it as a boat anchor.
Don't recall the exact date , but remember that it was about the time that
many folks were busy stocking up on food and water in anticipation of the Y2K computer meltdown.
If anyone here has a better recollection of the facts, I would be happy to join them
on a trip down memory lane.

Reply by Dennis D Broadbooks on 9/5/09 2:14pm
Msg #302996

You've Pretty Well Summed It Up, Bob...

...although personally I'd avoid the dispensing of any respect at all to the aforementioned author of the "original NSA Bible". The date of this episode in NSA history was the summer of 2001 & the company's name was ARCANVS. Still have the boat anchor, BTW.

Reply by BobbiCT on 9/8/09 6:57am
Msg #303114

NNA & Arcanvs ...

I, too, bought into "the Arcanvs is here and now" hype at the conference. My boat anchor is gone.

I even demonstrated it at law firms (mergers & acquisition documents that were always being faxed and FedEx'd across the country & the world). I attempted to demostrate it at our Secretary of State's office. SOTS was not interested in a demonstration. No CT business interested in it.

Lawyers, business heads thought it was interesting, but not willing to spend $$ on "fleeting technology." Interesting points: Paper lasts longer than most of today's technology. How many out there are still using WordPerfect, Wang, 8 inch or even 3 1/2 inch floppy disks? Are you still using an older version of Windows or a newer version and dumped some software products rather than continually pay for upgrades?

I think eDocuments and eSigning are here and will eventually become more commonplace. Today it's a matter of the initial expense, is anyone using it (and will they be using the same thing six months from now) and being able to recover start-up costs and make a profit. At $5 per notarization and no interest in my neighborhood, it's not for me today ... maybe tomorrow.

I'm still waiting for cell phones to work in my neighborhood, faster internet access and a computer in every home.

Reply by DonR_NYC on 9/7/09 2:21am
Msg #303050

Re: Don't recall all of the details, but I remember that ...

Susan Pense; now there is a name from the past. I actually still have, somewhere, the old NASA Signing Agent Certification certificate signed by Susan and Scott. After reading Bob's post I googled her to see what she is up to since selling NASA to the NNA. Found she went back into the design/construction business. her web site is www.susanpense.com.

Reply by LkArrowhd/CA on 9/7/09 3:00pm
Msg #303083

Thanks for that website, very interesting reading.

She doesn't stay with one job long but I think that may be related to being creative. It would appear she is currently in CA and looking for a new position, interesting.

Reply by BrendaTx on 9/7/09 7:19pm
Msg #303094

Very interesting resume. However, I noticed the

link to her lifetime achievement award link to the xyz is no longer there. I wonder if they retracted the lifetime part.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 9/7/09 10:41pm
Msg #303102

Re: Very interesting resume. However, I noticed the

Or maybe she retracted it because she didn't like what they've done to what she created....

Reply by PAW on 9/5/09 7:45am
Msg #302968

Interesting situtation that certainly needs investigation

I do a considerable amount of Apostille and Document Legalization processing, not only with the Florida Department of State, but the US Department of State and many embassies and consulates in the US. Fortunately, the question has never come up about a document that is or will be electronically notarized. It may be time to draft a letter and pose this question to the powers to be to see if they can handle electronic notarized documents and if so, what their process is.

I'm guessing, that the situation hasn't been broached in the past, so the answer will probably be "no can do." But, I'll won't jump to that conclusion yet. (Not holding my breath either.)