Posted by yihi on 4/12/10 4:18pm
Msg #331390
embossor seal
I am going to notarize some international docs soon. I may need to use my embossed seal for the first time. Do you guys affix protective foils to use the embossor?
Can I buy the foils easily?
Thanks.
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 4/12/10 4:41pm
Msg #331394
Re: embossor seal, yes, maybe, maybe not but...
if you are in a larger metropolitan area foils should be available in most stationery stores. I use foils for foriegn docs and even a small piece of blue grosgrain ribbon that I place under the seal. FWIW some foriegn entities like it.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/12/10 5:17pm
Msg #331401
In my area, they sell those foil seals at
all the local office supply stores (Staples, Office Depot, etc.) In Staples they are in the "labels" section; Office Depot seems to have them in the stationary section (next to their fancy "certificate" paper). However, I have only ever seen them in gold. There are lots of websites out there that sell other colors too; I find that the red seals are very impressive and I have also used blue and green ones on different types of documents.
I use an embosser on every notarization, even though it is not required in Florida. I think using it gives each of your notarizations that extra touch that your customers are looking for, and draws more importance to the seriousness of the notarial act IMO. Particularly for international documents, you should use an embosser with a foil seal.
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Reply by Charles_Ca on 4/13/10 12:18pm
Msg #331497
Re: In my area, they sell those foil seals ~ FYI Robert
stationary = Not moving or not capable of being moved
stationery = Writing materials and office supplies
Word usage is important in creating and maintinaing a professional appearance.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 12:25pm
Msg #331500
Re: In my area, they sell those foil seals ~ FYI Robert
But Charles, maybe the stationery aisle is stationary
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Reply by Ernest__CT on 4/12/10 5:21pm
Msg #331404
In CT an embossing seal is not a requirement but I use mine on every notarization.
For domestic (i.e., not going out of the country) documents, I don't use a gold seal. For the occasional foreign document I do.
Staples is where I buy my gold seals. Remember, it's a deductible business expense!
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/12/10 5:44pm
Msg #331408
Best place to buy foil seals online
Jones School Supply sells all different colors of foil seals for $0.06 a piece, up to 99 seals. After that, price drops to $0.05 a piece. This is the best deal I have found, and it allows you to order as small or as large a quantity as you need.
http://jonesschoolsupply.com/products/seals/blank+foil+seals.aspx
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Reply by yihi on 4/12/10 7:13pm
Msg #331433
Thank you for your infos.
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Reply by SharonMN on 4/13/10 9:27am
Msg #331475
Re: embosser seal - why bother
IMO, this is all completely unnecessary. All you need to do is produce a compliant notarial certificate, with your regular ink seal. And then the signer can get an apostille or whatever else is needed. I think it actually causes trouble to add extra flourishes just because you think it looks cool, because then the recipients come to expect something that is a non-standard certificate and may question the standard ones.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 9:51am
Msg #331476
Re: embosser seal - why bother
Sharon
Some countries don't require an apostille, and they look for a raised seal. I always add my embosser on docs going out of the country to be on the safe side.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/13/10 10:22am
Msg #331480
Sharon, I disagree
Sometimes customer satisfaction requires going above and beyond the bare minimum requirements. Remember, we are public servants. If they request that I use a foil seal and embosser, which is entirely within my legal authority, then I have an obligation to do so.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 10:42am
Msg #331483
Re: Sharon, I disagree
"If they request that I use a foil seal and embosser, which is entirely within my legal authority, then I have an obligation to do so"
Actually you do not have an obligation to do so. All you are obligated to do is to complete the notarial act according to Florida notary laws.
it is nice that you go above and beyond for those clients, but you are not obligated to do so.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/13/10 11:03am
Msg #331485
Not obligated by law, but by professional courtesy IMO n/m
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 11:07am
Msg #331486
Re: Not obligated by law, but by professional courtesy IMO
Not all notaries have embossers and gold seals, as there really is no necessity for them.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/13/10 11:09am
Msg #331487
IMO all notaries SHOULD have embossers and gold seals
whether or not they are required by law. The embosser is a symbol of a notary's authority, and personally I think that those notaries who think it is "too much of a hassle" do not respect the public office.
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 11:26am
Msg #331489
Re: IMO all notaries SHOULD have embossers and gold seals
"The embosser is a symbol of a notary's authority"
No, the seal is. The embosser used to be, but not now.
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/13/10 11:30am
Msg #331490
That's your opinion, Sylvia. n/m
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Reply by JanetK_CA on 4/14/10 3:38am
Msg #331637
Mine, too.
When I first got my notary commission about ten years ago, I got an embosser in addition to my stamp. I had a need to use it exactly 0 times. When I renewed my commission, I didn't see a need for the additional expense. I never needed it for my second commission, either. There have been a few instances when it might have come in handy -- in addition to my stamp, not instead of -- so it becomes another unnecessary expense. (I also found it very hard to use, as I had some problems with my wrist and hand back then, so that had a lot to do with my decision, as well. Maybe the one I bought wasn't very good, but I found it very difficult to squeeze hard enough for it to make a good impression.)
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Reply by Robert/FL on 4/14/10 6:53am
Msg #331641
In Fla., the embossers don't need the expiration date
included, so when we purchase an embosser, it is for life.
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/14/10 7:26am
Msg #331649
Re: In Fla., the embossers don't need the expiration date
Unless you marry and change your name that is.
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Reply by MW/VA on 4/13/10 11:35am
Msg #331491
"whether or not they are required by law".... "too much
of a hassle" do not respect the public office". I see a bit of contradition in that statement.
Times change. While the embosser was the tool traditionally associated with a notary, that is no longer the case. According to VA law, "you must now affix a sharp, legible, permanent and photographically reproducible image of the official seal".
The ink stamp (which must contain name, state, commission no. & commission expiration here in VA) is now the acceptible form of seal. Many states now have "electronic seals" also. BTW, I purchased an embosser and have used it once.
If you have the time to affix a gold seal & embossed image for extra effect, that's fine. BTW, do you also write with a quill pen & ink well? (little joke)
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Reply by Sylvia_FL on 4/13/10 11:40am
Msg #331492
Re: "whether or not they are required by law".... "too much
Same as in Florida, Marilyn. The inked seal is the official seal. I use an embosser as well when notarizing for documents that are going out of the country as some countries do look for an embosser. But I am not so pompous or arrogant that I believe it is a symbol of my position as a notary. Try notarizing a signature with just an embosser, and find out how much "authority" is in that.
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Reply by Notarysigner on 4/13/10 2:27pm
Msg #331512
Re: IMO all notaries SHOULD have embossers and gold seals
Why are you constantly ostracizing notaries who don't do what you think should be done and then belittle them. I don't have an embosser and definitely don't feel less a person/public servant for not having one.
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Reply by Notarysigner on 4/13/10 2:29pm
Msg #331514
Re: King or Joker? n/m
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