Posted by HisHughness on 12/9/10 8:52pm Msg #364550
I have just been caught in the &%#@)&%# association vise
My best client, a Texas company, has been bought out. The purchaser supposedly insists that all its closers have a background check by the &%#@)&%# association. I have heretofore resolutely refused to yield to any request for a check by the &%#@)&%#NA.
At this point, I have sent my present background check by another agency to my client and asked them to submit it to the new owner.
I know that others have run across the same thing. What did you do? How did it turn out? After you were through calling down divine justice on the &%#@)&%# association, did you then turn to satanic imprecations? Did either have any effect?
Should I actually turn in that application as a Wal-Mart greeter? If I'm going to take a 9-to-5, that would probably have to be it; I've searched every place I can think of, and have found not a single opening for a Resident Curmudgeon.
Reply by S Peterson on 12/9/10 9:07pm Msg #364553
I hear that! In the last 3 years, there have been 2 major class action lawsuits against the &%#@)&%#. I'd like to hear more about those FBI investigations into this that I have read about in earlier posts.
Reply by Susan Fischer on 12/9/10 9:18pm Msg #364558
I send 'em what I got, which was from Here, and call it
good. Actually, if I think about it, superior in ease, price, and scope, thank you Harry.
Haven't been turned down yet, or, haven't cared if I were.
I will never trade at the aforementioned place again - under any circumstances - especially if "required." *Especially* if it's about ~my~ creds. Which, the BGC is.
Who made them the Only Game In Town, anyway? I ask ya?
Reply by S Peterson on 12/9/10 9:31pm Msg #364560
the &%#@)&%# association...
it's a conspiracy...think about it.
Reply by Susan Fischer on 12/9/10 9:54pm Msg #364564
Heh heh heh. n/m
Reply by MichiganAl on 12/9/10 10:07pm Msg #364566
I'm no lawyer, but this just smacks of collusion to me.
To say that you have to use theirs and no other comparable or even better background check will do, well, that just smells of a backroom kickback deal to me. Just my opinion, I have no facts to substantiate, I have no knowledge of said deal, etc., etc., etc....
Reply by desktopfull on 12/9/10 10:13pm Msg #364570
Like their fee schedule was price fixing? n/m
Reply by Susan Fischer on 12/9/10 10:29pm Msg #364572
Re: I'm no lawyer: me either, and me too. That which shall
not be named, they've been sneaking up, ever the PR Pros...
The thing about a Monopoly is it's Anti-Capitalism. We customers lose the choices in Commerce, in our Work-a-day lives, every day, everywhere, across America and her Island Shores.
No "national association" is going to put other and competing Businesses out of work, thank you very much.
Job Killer.
Reply by Tess on 12/10/10 4:40pm Msg #364648
Re: I'm no lawyer: me either, and me too. That which shall
True Susan!
The problem I have with your statement is we often pick only one battle to fight on this front, and do not live what we preach!! If you truly believe in Capitalism, do you:
1. Not shop at Wal-Mart and buy only at the local shops where you know things are more expensive.
2. Not pay for advertising at a place where they actually cause a monopoly to happen, even though you may not get as many calls as you once did.
3. Do you stop using your cell phones, banks, etc, when their companies put others out of business?
4. Do you deal with a company that may not be based in the USA?
The point I am making is, we all have our reasons, but most often, true beliefs are not one of them. It is usually something they have done or not done to make you feel that way towards them!
Reply by Susan Fischer on 12/11/10 1:01am Msg #364683
I don't shop at Walmart. I don't purchase advertising at
the NNA place.
I don't use a bank, I use a local Credit Union.
No. Not to my knowledge - all US based companies, as far as I know...assuming you mean those who actually hire me. Can't speak for Lenders.
So, what's your point? I shop locally more often than not. I don't support Big Banks - I support local economics with local Credit Unions. I try to deal with US companies when I have a choice.
So?
Reply by Tess on 12/11/10 11:12am Msg #364716
Re: I don't shop at Walmart. I don't purchase advertising at
My statement was a personal observation and not an attack on you personally, sorry if you took it that way.
But since you mentioned it…If you are not consistently living what you preach, don’t preach it!
Although I am not normally a politically motivated person, some of this crap has gotten to me…. The rest of my thoughts should be in JP, should I choose to post there sometime!
Reply by Tess on 12/11/10 11:29am Msg #364719
Re: PS
But since you mentioned it…If you are not consistently living what you preach, don’t preach it! (sorry did not finish this thought) It seems as if you at least try to!
Reply by Donna McDaniel on 12/9/10 10:41pm Msg #364574
&%#@)&%# association uses Lexisnexis for their background screening. Maybe you could get one from them directly and avoid dealing with them. Just a thought.
Reply by sanjqnvly on 12/9/10 11:10pm Msg #364576
I have always wondered what makes their background check more in depth or thorough than the CA DOJ or the FBI?????
Reply by Bob_Chicago on 12/9/10 11:21pm Msg #364577
As I understand it , if a company determines that if
you want to do signings for them, then you will show up for the signings wearing a pink tutu, then you can either go to the ballet supply store or work for someone who is not into pink tutus. This, of course does not apply if their dictates include a prohibited matter such as involving race, religion, national origin , etc. I have never been a beiever in the practice of sticking to your guns, even if it involves shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck in resoloving your quandry. Actually, I think that you would look quite dashing in a pink tutu.
Reply by HisHughness on 12/9/10 11:32pm Msg #364578
The truth comes out
***Actually, I think that you would look quite dashing in a pink tutu.***
Knowing you as I do, I had no doubt you would find a guy in a pink tutu attractive.
Not gonna happen, though, Bob. I prefer skintight leotards.
Reply by BrendaTx on 12/9/10 11:34pm Msg #364579
Re: The truth comes out
*Not gonna happen, though, Bob. I prefer skintight leotards.*
If you are going to present a visual, more detail is needed.
What color?
Reply by jba/fl on 12/9/10 11:49pm Msg #364580
Re: The truth comes out
I'm sure there will be some contrasting color to better show off the tutu, or the lack thereof. Harlequin, ala Freddy Mercury's early days...at 0.53 secs.
Reply by Bob_Chicago on 12/10/10 12:08am Msg #364581
As an Independant Contractor - not an employee - they hire me to get a job accomplished. How I go about accomplishing that job is up to me. If they try to dictate how I am going to do it, they will have to hire me as an employee.
If they chose to hire me because I have a BGC from (*&^*& Assn, they can do that. If they chose to not hire my because my BGC is from Lexisnexis, NotRot or Bozo the Clown, that is their perogative. Do you tell your CPA how to dress while he/she is doing your taxes? Do you tell them what associations they HAVE to belong to in order to do your taxes? No, you can choose to do business with a CPA because they are a member of a certain organization, or you can choose to not do business with them because they do not belong to that certain organization. BUT... how far do you think you are going to get if you go in and tell them that they HAVE to join that organization before you will give them your business? Not very far in my opinion.
My .02
Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/10/10 10:14am Msg #364599
look it like this...
do whats best for YOUR bottomline. if that means getting a stupid bgc from xyz, get it. what would it hurt? if it makes your big fish happy, then do it to keep them biting.
Reply by Stamper_WI on 12/10/10 11:24am Msg #364605
Re: look it like this...
Do they still require membership and their certification class to get the BGC? That is what I object to. Coerced membership in an organization. They nailed those types of requirements to get into pools for insruance, I remeber haveing to belong to some tax organization inorder to get private health insurance. Also at one time I was in with dairymen.
Reply by MW/VA on 12/10/10 8:57pm Msg #364664
You're the royal atty, Hugh. I suggested some time back
that someone should start a class-action suit against them. I'm sure their selling their bgc as the only one acceptable isn't legal. I would imagine you could have a lot of fun with this! LOL
Reply by MW/VA on 12/10/10 8:59pm Msg #364665
One of the major tc's I work with starting sending emails
with XYZ stuff. I emailed them & told them I would not participate. They assured me it was not a requirement & would not affect my relationship with them if I CHOSE NOT to participate. This outfit is run by lawyers, so I know they couldn't force the issue. :-)
Reply by Donna LaBelle on 12/12/10 9:07pm Msg #364813
well I figure that if they disabled all the electronic notary seals because they couldn't be sure they were secure enough that anything else they do might not be secure enough either
