Posted by DD/OR on 12/1/10 12:39pm
Msg #363404

Safir Signing Agents

I have posted about them before. I tried to enter the name in Signing Central but it won't let me, it says it is already in the system, but it isn't. Safir signing agents is also known as Genuine Title. GT has a 2 star rating. When I accepted the assignment, under Safir Signing Agents, there was no listing for Safir SA in Signing Central. So, I took the assignment, not finding them in SC. This is a travesty for notaries. Safir Signing Agents owe me money and it's because of Notary Rotary's failure to protect notaries that I worked for free. Notary Rotary shame on you.

Reply by BrendaTx on 12/1/10 12:44pm
Msg #363408

*This is a travesty for notaries. Safir Signing Agents owe me money and it's because of Notary Rotary's failure to protect notaries that I worked for free. Notary Rotary shame on you. *

That takes the cake, DD. Surely you are not serious. Notary Rotary is not our daddy; and, the only payment information they have on companies is provided by posters. You're lucky they provide anything for notaries.

If I were the owner of NR, I would revoke your membership and refund you 100%.

Reply by MW/VA on 12/1/10 12:55pm
Msg #363411

I kind of agree with you on this, Brenda. We're lucky to have Signing Central & have the ability to avoid most of the deadbeats. There is risk in this business.

Reply by MW/VA on 12/1/10 12:56pm
Msg #363413

Also, is you had done a search you would have seen previous

posts about this company.

Reply by DD/OR on 12/1/10 12:56pm
Msg #363412

Brenda, you must be a new notary or just maybe you're a company, HMM?. By the way, I don't have a membership so they can't revoke it. That is precisely why I don't become a member, because I don't feel protected by NR. After all, supposedly, that is the reason why NR exists, to help protect notaries from unethical companys, is it not?

Reply by MW/VA on 12/1/10 12:57pm
Msg #363414

Where do you get that idea. This is a notary forum. We

share information voluntarily. NR has no responsibility for "protecting" us.

Reply by Ilene C. Seidel on 12/1/10 1:00pm
Msg #363420

Re: Where do you get that idea. This is a notary forum. We

How are you getting into our forum if you don't have a membership?

Reply by James Dawson on 12/1/10 1:02pm
Msg #363421

NR is not the only site...nor do you have to be a member of

these sites either. Blaming NR is like saying it's you state's fault because they commissioned you.
That is not right. IMO

Reply by desktopfull on 12/1/10 4:56pm
Msg #363485

James, you have to log in to post, they are a member. n/m

Reply by James Dawson on 12/1/10 5:05pm
Msg #363488

Ooh but of course Donna...I forgot! n/m

Reply by CopperheadVA on 12/1/10 1:02pm
Msg #363422

DD, you DO have a membership. It's a free one and it can be revoked. I'm honestly shaking my head that you are lodging such a complaint about NotRot when you don't even pay to be a premier member. This website feeds me a huge amount of my client calls and I am happy to pay to be a premier member. It has also saved me from working for deadbeats too many times to count (SC and search function). Thank you NotRot!

Reply by bagger on 12/1/10 2:27pm
Msg #363458

LOL Brenda a newbie?
Do some research before you make accusations.

Reply by desktopfull on 12/1/10 4:54pm
Msg #363484

Have you mistaken NotRot for the we'll protect you from everything federal government? You need to read NotRot's home page, they don't protect you from anything. They provide information for you to use, but you have to do the searching. You are responsible for taking the risk in your business. No one else! It sounds like you have the "Everyone But Me" snydrome.

Reply by Ali/IL on 12/1/10 6:15pm
Msg #363503

Well said Brenda. It is not Notary Rotarys fault.

Reply by CopperheadVA on 12/1/10 12:52pm
Msg #363410

I understand your frustration, but I always do a search with the orange search button regardless if whether the company is listed in Singing Central or not. The word "Safir"comes up with a long history of poor payment. I don't think you can blame this one on NotRot.

Reply by Ilene C. Seidel on 12/1/10 12:59pm
Msg #363417

And if I'm not mistaken Safir Signing has been discussed before. You have to do both search in SC and our chatroom. Never rely on just SC! Shannon calls me a lot I've told her each time I will not work for them due to the non payment problems. I live about a mile away. You should contact Jay Zuckelberg to get your money. Just google it. If Safir's running a business out of his title company he should know about it.

Reply by DD/OR on 12/1/10 1:12pm
Msg #363427

Thanks Ilene, I can't get past his voice mail. Nobody is answering the phone. I've called numerous times and emailed him. No one responds. I just hope no other notary gets taken in by him. I think a lot of notaries don't know they can use the orange button. I will try to contact Jay Zuckelberg although I don't have a number on him.

Reply by DD/OR on 12/1/10 1:00pm
Msg #363418

OK, I do blame myself to an extent. At the time, I didn't know that I could do a search using the orange button. I know it now. But how many notaries know that, especially new notaries. The first thought is to go to SC. I will remember that in the future though.

Reply by Donna McDaniel on 12/1/10 1:18pm
Msg #363434

Before I joined NR, I would use Google.

Still do sometimes if I can't get enough info. Anyone who doesn't check out an SS or TC before accepting a job should blame themselves. There's too much info out there.

Reply by jba/fl on 12/1/10 2:14pm
Msg #363454

DD: You have been told about this over and over

Your problem, the way I see it, is that you just jump to conclusions, doing roundhouses, flailing your arms and legs and expect that everyone will be scared shitless by your behavior and all fall down praising your abilities.

Doesn't work that way. Many of us who have been here for a long time know your history.

Reply by bagger on 12/1/10 2:30pm
Msg #363459

Since you are the newbie, and not paying for membership, two things come to mind.
1. You owe Brenda an apology
2. Why don't you sue NR for the dues you didn't pay?

Reply by BrendaTx on 12/1/10 2:50pm
Msg #363469

Bagger...Seriously, I don't...

need an apology. When you post on a public forum, it's expected to receive a bracing response from time to time. I was pretty straightforward with my remarks, and I stand by them. That was the silliest accusation I had ever heard.

Reply by BrendaTx on 12/1/10 2:51pm
Msg #363470

and, I meant to say, "Thanks!", too. n/m

Reply by Moneyman/TX on 12/1/10 7:24pm
Msg #363536

Didn't know about the orange search button? Hmm...

"I didn't know that I could do a search using the orange button. I know it now."

I don't buy that DD. Just a simple search finds that you have been posting as far back as Msg #263349 9/5/08, maybe longer. More than enough time to hear about the search button and learn how to use it.

"I do blame myself to an extent." -- The ONLY two "people" that are to blame here are the SS and you, for not doing your homework. Especially when you seek to blame NotRot and anyone else besides yourself and the SS, I would say that you deserve more blame than normal.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 12/1/10 7:50pm
Msg #363542

9/20/06 in my search Msg #147405 n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 12/1/10 8:09pm
Msg #363545

I've been reading some of her crazy comments most of

the day....but missed this one. Do you suppose she wrote her book? If so, it appears she did not have a best seller.

Sorry, Dixie, you totally knew all of these things and/or had them pointed out to you on many occassions. You have chastized yourself for not checking, you have persistently reviewed companies after you took the order and then not turned it back. It is as though you are two people, maybe even three or four, all using the same DD/OR. Something is wrong, Dixie, but it is not NotRot.

Reply by Doris_CO on 12/1/10 1:00pm
Msg #363419

Just going to Signing Central is not enough when checking out companies. If you had typed in Safir using the Search Button, you would have found plenty of information including connecting him to Genuine Title. Use every available means to check out an unknown to you company, which includes checking Signing Central, using the Search button and using Google or whichever search engine you prefer. Since Mr. Safir is connected to Genuine Title you won't be able to enter his name into Signing Central. You need to contact NR using the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page to get Safir Signing added. This man has burned plenty of bridges under the Genuine Title name, now he's using a different name to burn more notary bridges.

Reply by Les_CO on 12/1/10 1:11pm
Msg #363425

Sorry about your trouble DD, but Konstantin Safire/Safire Signing/ Genuine Title have all been discussed here before. I too am owed by them, and IF I see a post about them I don’t hesitate to call the whole bunch THEIVES! Let them PROVE me different. A very important part of this ‘job’ is learning who to work for and trust, and IMO it’s the most expensive part of being a NSA. Thank Harry, and all of us Notary Rotary members for freely sharing the information we do. It could be worse.

Reply by Calnotary on 12/1/10 1:19pm
Msg #363435

I can't believe this DD...

you do a job for a very bad SS and after they don't pay you you come here and complain because NOTROT
did not protect you and you are not a paying member, what a full of cr**!

Every job I take I check their reputation and if none exists I take a chance, but I don't drive far, in more than
5 years doing this only 2 or 3 jobs I haven't been paid, and that's because they file bankruptcy or just they
just disappear from the face of the earth. Don't expect Notary Rotary to be your nanny. Please!

Reply by John Tennant on 12/1/10 1:17pm
Msg #363433

You obviously don't have a clue. IMHO you should be "booted" off NOTROT for good. For your info, Brenda has more knowledge in her little finger than you will obtain in the next ten years. Further more, she willingly shares it. Go find another forum to abuse.

Reply by Calnotary on 12/1/10 1:22pm
Msg #363436

Oh Yes I liked when he mentions that Brenda must been a new notary, oh by the way I did one job for this Safir
a few years back and I was paid, but later on he continue to call me and I refused all of their signing because he was just offering 90 bucks for edocs.

Reply by Les_CO on 12/1/10 1:35pm
Msg #363439

I (like a fool) didn't accept the $90 fee. Told them my fee, it was agreed to, I did the job and received....... NOTHING!
Kosi Saphire should go back to dancing under a fig tree, and hope I'm not around to watch. Can you get harmed by a falling fig? Maybe he should go dance under a Coconut Palm?

Reply by DD/OR on 12/1/10 1:35pm
Msg #363438

I just love to hear from all you company people. You just reinforce my belief that there are more companies that frequent this forum than individual notaries. That is why you attack a notary who is trying to warn other notaries of unethical companys. I feel complimented when you attack me. You are just showing your true nature. No I won't go away. You go away.

Reply by Calnotary on 12/1/10 1:42pm
Msg #363441

It's not for you to decide if you go or if you stay, I don't really care if you go or if you stay, it's Harry's decision
but you sound to arrogant, of course this is just my opinion.

Reply by Les_CO on 12/1/10 1:55pm
Msg #363445

Re:DD see msg # 359476 and # 355071/ last month n/m

Reply by Donna McDaniel on 12/1/10 2:24pm
Msg #363457

Are we reading the same forum?

There is no conspiracy here. Why are you so cynical? Life's too short, calm yourself.

Reply by Robert Williams on 12/1/10 2:30pm
Msg #363460

DD, I just finished reading this thread and it looks like you started it with an unjustified attack on NotRot and your replies to other members are to call them names? Un-real...

First of all, anyone who uses a forum and doesn't know the search feature exists really shouldn't be complaining. NotRot is a pretty good forum and SS is so much more complete than other such groups I belong to it's not even funny.

We have all been stiffed by someone at some time in our history. It happens when you run a business, but if you expect anyone to "Protect" you then you are probably in the wrong business.

Reply by bagger on 12/1/10 2:33pm
Msg #363462

I have said it before and I will say it again.
Harry needs to provide us with an ignore button, so that we don't even see posts from ppl we don't want to see.
Sorta discrimination, but hey.

Reply by Robert Williams on 12/1/10 2:50pm
Msg #363468

discrimination is a useful talent sometimes.... like not working for ppl with bad payment histories

Reply by bagger on 12/1/10 3:59pm
Msg #363481

Agree with you 100% Robert.
There are customers that you do not want to do business with, and it is entirely within your rights to deny doing business with them. We are in this business to make a profit, not notarizing for free!

Reply by Tess on 12/1/10 2:00pm
Msg #363448

Re: ???? Msg #359357 n/m

Reply by Ruby on 12/1/10 2:43pm
Msg #363467

Re: ???? Msg #359357

I did a signing for Safir Signing. I check signing central and nothing came up, also check message for Safir. Was not good. Email Shannon and told her I could not take this because of their payment history (gen. Title) She assured me I would get paid. Shannon beg me and finally I was suckered in and did the signing. Guess what...Kosty didn't want to pay but I bug the heck out of them will all the faxes and email. Finally they did pay. No more will I listen to these sob storys. It was my own fault Notary Rotary warned me. I do not hold them responsible for my actions and chose to ignore that others Notaries warned me. Not Rot just email me and Traci said Safir Singing was now linked. Sorry about this rant No way is Notary Rotary at Fault for my stupidity. Excuse my spelling.

Reply by Tess on 12/1/10 3:11pm
Msg #363475

Re: Backing away from the keyboard and taking a deep breath

before posting helps! : )

Reply by cheryl/md on 12/10/10 12:54pm
Msg #364616

Re: ???? Msg #359357

you're correct. shannon pleads for you to do a closing, knowing kosty has not paid for services

Reply by Les_CO on 12/1/10 2:36pm
Msg #363463

Re: Safir Signing Agents/ Wow! Busted

Busted DD!…You asked about Safir and received answers…and still worked for him? I call that foolish hopeful greed. I hope you learned by this, and you are welcome in advance.

Reply by BrendaTx on 12/1/10 2:55pm
Msg #363471

DD was warned on 11/2 about Safr. This is hilarious.

Les gave her a warning! Look at the message numbers on his posts in this thread. He told her to stay away from them.

Reply by James Dawson on 12/1/10 3:01pm
Msg #363473

Les, you warn me, trust me, I'll follow... ROFLMAO n/m

Reply by Les_CO on 12/1/10 3:04pm
Msg #363474

Re: Les, you warn me, trust me, I'll follow... ROFLMAO

It’s been said that smart people learn from the mistakes of others, I guess you’re in that club? I don’t know if I qualify yet…but I’m trying!

Reply by Sandra Clark on 12/1/10 2:37pm
Msg #363464

I can't believe you actually blame NotRot for your failure to search the site. Whine, Whine, Whine..............grow up!!

Reply by desktopfull on 12/1/10 5:07pm
Msg #363489

Do you think she wants a little cheese with her whine?

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/1/10 2:43pm
Msg #363466

linked... n/m

Reply by MichiganAl on 12/1/10 3:23pm
Msg #363478

This is such a prevalent attitude now a days

Too many people who don't take responsibility for their own actions. It's always someone else who's at fault. Who can we blame, who can we sue? But I guess someone should have told you who not to work for, someone should have told you about the bright orange button, someone should have showed you how to use Google, someone should have saved you from yourself. What a poor excuse for a supposed self-employed business person.

I admit it, I've made poor decisions and I've screwed up plenty of times. Sometimes in spectacular fashion. But I don't blame anyone except the person in the mirror, and I learn from it. You really should try it.

Reply by bagger on 12/1/10 4:07pm
Msg #363482

Re: This is such a prevalent attitude now a days

Wow, to the point and a perfect response Al.
Sadly, I blame this all on the way kids are brought up today. Everybody in Little League, Youth soccer, swimming (name the competitive sport) always earns a trophy! They do not know that there are winners and there are losers.
If you lost, it's probably because the winners cared more about winning.
Kids grow up expecting to get the trophy in the business world just because they participated.
Sorry folks, but there is no participation trophy in the business world, and if you come in second, you lost business.

Reply by SueW/Tn on 12/1/10 5:57pm
Msg #363500

DD has been posting like this for years, she's no newbie

Just search her posts, constantly getting "shafted" by lowball companies. She once decided to only work on a cash level, that is cash in hand when signing is done. How's that working for ya DD? Sheesh...someone throw her a crying towel.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 12/1/10 7:11pm
Msg #363533

Re: DD has been posting like this for years, she's no newbie

"She once decided to only work on a cash level, that is cash in hand when signing is done. How's that working for ya DD? "

Apparently not that well since she's posting about not being paid.....and stop reading my mind Sue!!!....

Reply by taxpro on 12/2/10 4:34pm
Msg #363653

DD, you knew better, and did it anyway! Your own fault.

1. You have been told many times about the Search button, and you also were very well aware that Signing Central doesn't always show the listing under the name you're looking for. This has been discussed many times, and in threads you posted.
2. One minute you say SC "rocks", and the next minute you hate it. Why don't you take responsibility for your own laziness, and pay attention to what people tell you!!
3. You posted about Safir and got immediate responses warning you not to take the signing. Then, you took it anyway. That's your own fault. You even could have returned the signing to them if you were worried about it.
4. You are not even a paying member of NotRot! How dare you accuse them of failing to protect you? That is not NotRot's responsibilty, it's yours. If NotRot has helped you, isn't it worth being a paying member?
5. NotRot doesn't add good or bad companies to SC; the members do that. It's not NotRot's fault if a company isn't listed. You could've done a lot more research, but were apparently too lazy. Even when others warned you, you ignored the warnings. And now you're whining about it?
6. How dare you accuse Brenda of being a newbie (not that there's anything wrong with that!) You should check your facts before making such a ridiculous statement. Anyone who's been a NotRot member for a while knows that Brenda is one of the most experienced and knowledgeable notaries out there, and is always willing to share information and help others whenever she can.
7. Anytime you disagree with a post, you accuse the poster of being a "company" that is out to screw you over. You sound like a whiny, immature child who is holding her fingers in her ears, refusing to hear the truth and learn from others. Most of us are independent signing agents. There are title and signing services who come to the forum to check their ratings and make occasional posts, but that's the minority. We come here to get advice, tell stories about signings, check ratings of companies, etc. We help each other a lot, but no one else is responsible for your bad decisions. You would be better off to listen and learn, than to rant at others.