Posted by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 5:55am
Msg #320505

SS company is listing all OVER NR

They show up in counties all over Texas...different profiles.

I"ve reported it to Harry. I will let you know when they respond.

If you want to see it, do a search on 77845 / 50 miles. This is just one little example of their multiple profiles.

Oh yeah, and they aren't paying for their multiple free listings, either.

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 2/1/10 6:45am
Msg #320508

You're creeping me out, Brenda - look what I just posted! n/m

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 2/1/10 6:46am
Msg #320509

FTR - I did NOT see your posting first! n/m

Reply by Stamper_WI on 2/1/10 7:00am
Msg #320511

TC's do it too n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 7:56am
Msg #320513

Tracy just responded & WEIRD, Renee'

Tracy's going to fix the ss profiles/disable them as she sees fit. (Thank you, NR!)

Renee'...well, all I can say is "great minds!" Haven't read your post yet, but I'm sure it's going to be excellent reading.

Reply by Vince/KS on 2/1/10 8:35am
Msg #320516

Perhaps Tracy can run a search based upon phone numbers

and see how many listings contain duplicates of other listings and maybe give the listor a chance to decide which one they wish to keep for themself (listing the appropriate address). That should clear up the problem pretty quickly.

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 8:50am
Msg #320517

I think they should be beat with a bag of oranges.

But that's just me.

Reply by Vince/KS on 2/1/10 9:30am
Msg #320521

Why not Texas Ruby Reds? n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 9:52am
Msg #320525

Re: Why not Texas Ruby Reds? Only the

small ones so as to deliver a little more "pinch" upon contact.

(Boo cheaters!)

Reply by jba/fl on 2/1/10 10:22am
Msg #320532

That's a vigorous morning workout! n/m

Reply by Notarysigner on 2/1/10 9:18am
Msg #320519

Thanks Brenda I just checked my area and could ID three who I know broker out signing jobs. I wonder if Harry has a policy on this and what the policy is?

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 9:41am
Msg #320524

Write Harry using the "Contact Us"

link at the bottom of the page.

It sickens me to see this kind of thing. I just cannot stand the sense of entitlement of some people.

I think that SSs are supposed to go into SC - not into our signing agent profiles.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 2/1/10 10:21am
Msg #320531

Re: Write Harry using the "Contact Us"

"I think that SSs are supposed to go into SC - not into our signing agent profiles."

That's how it should be. If you do a search on my zip I won't come up in the searches, I have my profile hidden from searches. (I also have my profile empty - so someone doesn't stumble on my listing accidentally and call me)

Reply by MW/VA on 2/1/10 9:57am
Msg #320527

Wow--they never allowed this. In revamping the db they must have got confused. I'm sure they'll correct it.

Reply by Notarysigner on 2/1/10 10:09am
Msg #320529

Msg sent to Harry listing all OVER NR n/m

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 2/1/10 10:29am
Msg #320534

simple work-around being used

N/R's policy from what I understand is that *the same entity* can't be in both listings (on the SS/TC one AND the SA one). One, or the other, but not both. This is often the reason why people will look for and not find a particular SS, try to LIST them on the SS list and get the message that "the listing already exists". It exists - on the S/A list.

A lot of S/A's will kind of 'dabble' in being a SS - not wanting to give up their S/A listing, and not deep enough into it to care about the lack of SS list exposure.

Work-arounds abound. Use a SS entity name in the SS listing, and the owner or an employee (or both) in the S/A listing. Usually SS's are run by SA's - who still DO some signings themselves, so ....qualify & are entitled to have a SA listing.

Paying or using the free listings - regardless to me, if they ARE a SS and are NOT clearly presenting themselves as such, IMHO it is misrepresentation. If the client selects an SA based upon the profile/experience/qualifications of THAT person - then THAT person should be the person who provides the service.

If I were brokering signings out, what is the worth of my BGC or my Certifications or my many years of experience or ANYTHING about me?

What is to prevent a Network (for example) from utilizing a single listing based on the credentials of its highest-achieving member and farming out the signings? If it could logistically be simplified (and the technology is there), it could level the playing field and shake this game up pretty good. I'm not at this point interested in doing such a thing, but there are plenty of Networks out there that might be. Would it be right? Ethical? Unfair to other individual SA's who are not Networked?

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 11:05am
Msg #320542

Some of the SSs have figured out if they list in the SA spot

...(especially REPEATEDLY, like my current annoyance is)...guess what??!!

Notaries can't rate them on SC.

It's a crock of !#$!# if an SS is allowed to list in "find a notary" rather than in SC for that reason alone.

Reply by Notarysigner on 2/1/10 11:08am
Msg #320544

Re: Some of the SSs have figured out if they list in the SA spot

Good morning Brenda.........

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 11:16am
Msg #320546

Hi! :) n/m

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 11:19am
Msg #320548

Re: simple work-around being used

If one is both a Signing Agent, and also owns a Signing Service, that tells me that the SS has some experience in this business.
If one accepts a job as a Signing Agent, it is their responsibility to complete that job PERSONALLY. To do anything less would be a misrepresentation, libelous, and probably illegal. To accept a job as a SS and schedule it out to a sub-contractor is normal business.

I know there are some husband-and-wife teams working out there too. To accept a job representing that you will do it, and then have ANYONE else do it is wrong.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/1/10 11:18am
Msg #320547

Keep one thing in mind....a case of

"be careful what you wish for"....

I've seen this numerous times and agree it IS annoying and unfair...having it rectified will be great - but it needs to apply to ALL that are doing it and I know there are some who post here (one in particular comes to mind, shall remain nameless) who run SS's who are much loved and respected, the best, yada yada - it can't apply randomly, ...ALL SS's should be held to the same standard and set of rules -

So the annoying one may go away...but so will all the others...I hope.

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 11:35am
Msg #320552

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

Linda - It's one thing to post...quite another to advertise as a signing service. Besides, as she stated, her profile is hidden.

We can only hope that such concern will be develop and see the purging of this through...otherwise, the question about our "loved and respected" is moot. I don't even know why we'd discuss it at this point. I don't care what SS posts...I do care about them cluttering up the profiles of SAs.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/1/10 11:38am
Msg #320553

I agree Brenda...especially in congested listings

where SS names will effectively run the notary right off the page...

Not talking about SS's just posting - posting as an individual who runs an SS - lists as a notary AND the SS...

It's not an issue in my area - yet....but I do agree with your concerns 100%..

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 11:46am
Msg #320556

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

I can think of several here that are still, or were in the past Notary Signing Agents that now also have/operate a SS. Some in-state only, some national. I see nothing wrong with this. Any more that the MANY now sitting at their computer’s at work (their day job) that either don’t do this at all any longer, or are now part-time only working occasionally.
I think the gripe is the NSA that is not a real SS, but ‘those that ‘farm-out’ jobs to others.

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/1/10 12:01pm
Msg #320561

Gripe would be with SS and SA who just farms out a few. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 12:08pm
Msg #320563

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

*I think the gripe is the NSA that is not a real SS, but ‘those that ‘farm-out’ jobs to others.*

No. I don't want signing services in the "find a notary" area at all.

That's not why we listed here over the past six (five?) years....so that OUR individual profiles could be located.

That's what SC is for.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 12:23pm
Msg #320564

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

So the person that works for a SS, or owns a SS should be barred from advertising here? Regardless of whether they still take and do signings personally?

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 12:48pm
Msg #320568

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

I just want the problem of the multi-profile notary / and signing service to cease.

If they run an SS the SS biz needs to be listed in SC, NOT in Find a Notary.
If they are SAs in addition to that then they list their profile (for being a notary signing agent) in "find a notary". However, the multi-profile to cover multiple counties and show that they are listed in every town is bullsh**. Even Traci (NR) saw the problem. I don't think what I'm talking about needs further explanation.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 12:59pm
Msg #320571

Re: Brenda

Sorry Brenda, I guess I was on a different page? I now understand, and agree. I see some ‘profiles’ that say we cover all of Southern California? (or Texas) Really? Drive 300 miles to do a closing? Sure.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 3:21pm
Msg #320584

Not only that...

What they put in their profile should only include information about what they have personally done, not what their agency has done!

I'm so glad this topic came up. I just looked at some of the free listings for the first time and found one listing with a guy using a name similar or same as several signing services. Then imagine my surprise to find a couple of sentences that are almost word for word from my profile!!!! I'm still spittin' mad (well, at least as close as I ever get to that) so I haven't yet decided what I'm going to do about it - but this guy is going to be hearing from me!!! It would be much worse if it wasn't for the fact that no one probably ever looks at his profile (2nd or 3rd, I think, in the freebies) and mine is first for Premier members. What a ____________ (fill in here all of Becca's favorites...)!!!!

Reply by Charles_Ca on 2/1/10 12:27pm
Msg #320565

I also believe that having a Signer listing by an SS allows

the SS to pitch their services to a TC who may trying to call an Signer directly for work thereby depriving legitimate Signers from work that would pay them more the than the SS would offer.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 12:42pm
Msg #320566

Re: I also believe that having a Signer listing by an SS allows

So if you are say a scheduler for a SS, and do signings on your own in the evening, and Sam’s Title Company calls you to do a signing (std e-doc refi) at 7 PM tomorrow. You say: Yes I can do that. I charge $125, or you can call John’s SS that I work for and they can schedule the signing with me, or some else. They will charge you $165, for the same service. Yup….I can see why that would be a real threat.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 2/1/10 5:12pm
Msg #320599

Or, using the same scenario...

take the $125 signing and shop it out to some newbie for $50!

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 6:42pm
Msg #320610

Whatever the case on this multi-listed SS...

the database ceases to be so wonderful and valuable to notaries when someone rudely uses the free listing feature to cover up area after area with their signing service in areas.

A friend brought this to my attention. I'm so glad Traci and Harry take this seriously. I can still see the problem child in the searches but perhaps within a day or two there will be resolution.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 6:58pm
Msg #320613

Re: Or, using the same scenario...

That’s what I thought this original post was about. NSA’s operating as undeclared SS’s, farming out jobs for a few bucks extra. As I said in my post… I think that is not only wrong, but illegal!

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 12:46pm
Msg #320567

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

How about those that advertise here that own, or work for a Title Company? Or for an attorney that does closings? Are not these people still Notary Signing Agents, if only ‘part-time’?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 2/1/10 12:50pm
Msg #320570

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

When I personally did signings, when called by a company, if I was available (and it was a good company of course) I would accept the signing. If I wasn't available I did not offer my services as a signing service owner, I would just give the contact info (when I could) of a signing agent who may be able to accomodate them.
There should always be a line between working as a signing agent and working as a signing service.

Reply by Charles_Ca on 2/1/10 5:15pm
Msg #320601

Yours is simply a problem with something called ethics...

unfortunately not everyone has those constraints!

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 1:03pm
Msg #320572

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

Look at this example...the one I put in the original post and you will see THREE profiles. If you use 77634 and 50 mile radius you will see FIVE profiles...unless Traci has already cleaned them up.

"If you want to see it, do a search on 77845 / 50 miles. This is just one little example of their multiple profiles."

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 1:05pm
Msg #320574

Oops, I meant 77845 and 77364 zips + 50 mile radius. n/m

Reply by Notarysigner on 2/1/10 1:13pm
Msg #320576

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

Les there are also those who work for TC who are also SA (part-time after work) that will schedule themselves the signing if it is in their area. SS do the same thing. How can that be managed? It has nothing to do with NotRot IMO. Is it greed, insider information or a coincidence?

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 2:15pm
Msg #320578

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

Well, I don’t think it really is ‘managed’. Most closers/escrow officers/schedulers working for Title companies are women. Many Title Companies prohibit their lady employees from doing ‘in-home’ closings at night, or at a single man’s residence for liability/safety reasons. However there is no prohibition of ‘independent-contractors’ doing this. So there are quite a few notaries that work for title companies that do part-time signings as independent contractors. For the local jobs they (or their co-workers) schedule themselves. Likewise schedulers that work for SS’s. This goes for friends/relations too. Years ago I knew quite a few escrow officers in local title company offices that would schedule with me. I still have some (fewer) contacts that use me. I know a couple of SS schedulers that schedule with themselves, or me, or their (new-to-the-business) relatives when they can. The owner doesn’t care as long as there are no mistakes, and no cost difference, and IF the work is portioned out equally among all the best notaries in the area. In other words they can’t give themselves, or their relatives all the jobs at the highest prices, but they can so some of the jobs at the lowest prices. I guess that could be called ‘managed’ ? I don‘t think its greed, but ‘inside information’, and good relationships really help.

Reply by Notarysigner on 2/1/10 2:38pm
Msg #320580

Re: Keep one thing in mind....a case of

O k thanks Les

Reply by Harry [NR] on 2/1/10 3:48pm
Msg #320588

Brenda -

We're aware of the fact that certain companies are doing this and we're taking a number of steps to eliminate this form of abuse.

1) I will be more clearly stating what I thought was an obvious policy: ONE LISTING PER PERSON. That person may list either their personal name or their business name. The individual who answers the phone must either be the principal OR someone working at the same business who has direct and immediate access to the calendar of the principal and who is capable of scheduling appointments for the principal. In other words, something like a husband/wife team that covers each others' calls would be allowed. Third-party scheduling or using our site as a "funnel" for business opportunities across the U.S. would not be.

2) Generally, the contact information on each record must be distinct (i.e. not found on 50 other listings). That includes phone, fax and e-mail.

3) Severe penalties for entities that violate the rules. There will be a sort of penalty progression here. Something along the lines of: a) Contact information is blacklisted, which will prohibit adds and updates to the Notary Rotary database for affected information. b) Ability to search will be restricted or eliminated. c) IP address(es) will be banned from using all Notary Rotary services.

Harry
Notary Rotary

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 3:56pm
Msg #320592

Thanks, Harry. I'm glad that you guys have cleared that up.

brenda

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 3:59pm
Msg #320593

Thank you , Harry!!

I think it's also a good idea that husband and wife teams make that fact clear, as well. One person could be highly experienced but the other a newbie. Don't know how I'd feel about that if I was the hiring party, but if they at least know that situation is a possibility, they can ask the right questions.

Now if only you had some nice solution to deal with plagiarism, we'd be in tall cotton!!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/1/10 6:45pm
Msg #320611

Janet...when that happened to me last year

I stewed over it for a few days...then wrote to her...then SHE was "spittin' mad"...

She did change her profile..

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 6:59pm
Msg #320614

Re: Janet...when that happened to me last year

Thanks, Linda. I'm glad that your imitator changed her profile. I hope I have the same result.

At first, I just thought he'd taken one or two sentences, but I went back and, except for a couple of additions and omissions, his profile is practically word for word from mine. I just shot him an email a little while ago. I told him that I know imitation is supposed to be the highest from of flattery but I didn't appreciate him copying my profile and asked him to come up with something that was his. Among other things, I also said that I didn't think it reflected well on his ethics. (Well, he does state that he is a former title rep and mortgage rep.... I'll leave it at that! )

I just don't get these people! Is it laziness? A sense of entitlement? Or do they think they're being clever?

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/1/10 8:34pm
Msg #320634

LOL Janet - did you copy my letter??...:) n/m

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 11:20pm
Msg #320665

Re: LOL Janet - did you copy my letter??...:)

I doubt I ever read your letter, but it doesn't surprise me. If I may be so bold, it often seems to me that you and I think a lot alike...! I hope I get the same results, too!!

Reply by Teresa/FL on 2/1/10 11:36pm
Msg #320667

Janet, I found 2 notary profiles that copied mine

It is a good idea to check out the listings for your immediate area. One of the notaries who copied from me even has a premiere listing. Here's what I did:

1. Sent an email to the offending notary requesting removal/revision of the profile.
2. Forwarded a copy of the email to Notary Rotary as an FYI for the record.
3. When I got no response from the offenders, I added a note to my profile so anyone who happened to notice the similarities would realize that my profile is the original and the others are copies.

I am constantly revising my profile and check other profiles in my area about once a month.

I also noticed a SS that had multiple free notary profiles in my area and was about to report this to Harry, but it looks like somebody beat me to it!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/2/10 10:45am
Msg #320737

Janet, sent you a p/m... n/m

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/1/10 6:05pm
Msg #320608

Thanks! It is appreciated. n/m

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 6:51pm
Msg #320612

The next step……In My Opinion….Let’s (meaning YOU Harry) get rid of this anonymous posting BS!! If you wish to read, and learn, great! If you want to opine let us know who you are. I really don’t care what anyone who must hide thinks.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 7:12pm
Msg #320615

Why don't you get over your paranoia about so called "anonymous" posters. I, for one, prefer to not link my profile. It doesn't mean I have anything to hide and it's not to keep myself anonymous, 'cause many people here know who I am and I'm fine with that. But I want to see a count on profile views that gives me an idea of how many looks it's getting from potential clients - not from my peers or worse yet, competitors. Besides, I don't give a rip about learning the real identity of most posters. The trolls and nuisance seekers have a way of making themselves known. Plus we now have the report button. Beyond that, what's the big deal? I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.

This issue was dealt with a long time ago when Harry made it a requirement for posters to be logged in before they can post. That's good enough for me. It's bad enough that I have already have someone in my backyard copying my profile. (I do think it's pretty good , but I can't imagine why someone wouldn't want it vs. something that is uniquely THEIRS, rather than copying from me.)

Reply by Lee/AR on 2/1/10 7:29pm
Msg #320616

Agree with Janet about alias (not anonymous) postings

I want to know the true count of profile views by hiring entities....not NRers.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 7:36pm
Msg #320619

You wish to remain anonymous on a site that’s primary function is to advertise ones services? And a discussion board useful to perhaps gain or impart some knowledge or a learning experience to others? Would you prefer genuine learning experiences, and actual situations, posted by people that are in this business, or just some crap dreamed up by a moronic passerby? You say many people here ‘know you’? Then why remain hidden? How many people posting here EMPLOY you in your ‘true’ identity?
I stick by what I said, an anonymous comment, is exactly worth what it’s backed up by. In your case nothing.

Reply by Riley/FL on 2/1/10 7:54pm
Msg #320626

I agree totally with Janet and Lee. The one time I did link my profile, I got 42 new profile viewers. I post occasionally, but read mostly; I still have alot to learn. Some people here know who I am and if anyone else wants to, PM me. I have no problems with that.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 8:14pm
Msg #320631

I say stop worrying about how many times someone looks at your profile here and start worrying about how many checks you receive. There is no way I’d hire an anonymous person to represent me, or my company. I want to know who I do business with.
In the above 50 plus above comments how many are hidden? Which comments do you give the most credence?

Reply by jba/fl on 2/1/10 8:48pm
Msg #320638

Harry, Janet, Lee, Riley & Laura are "hidden", ie, not linked. I cannot see their sales pitches, honest or puffed they may well be. Who do I trust of those 5? Harry, Janet, Lee, Riley (she's new, but cautiously picking her way about and doesn't appear to be reckless in her comments, therefore, I can give her the benefit of the doubt until such time) & Laura.

If they linked their profiles, then I would have to decide whether or not they puff their advertising, really knew what they were talking about or just know all the buzz words to put my mind at ease. Etc.......

Are you hiring people Les? Is that your concern?

Reply by jba/fl on 2/1/10 8:31pm
Msg #320633

"You wish to remain anonymous on a site that’s primary function is to advertise ones services?"

When NR started lo those many moons ago, there were posters who went by the name "anonymous". Now, that is truly anonymous, and thankfully, discontinued.. But using a nom de plume on the forums does not hinder the advertising aspect. Why should I have less credence as jba/fl, linked or not, than Julianne A...., linked or not? Why is it necessary to see everything there is in my sales pitch to the companies who may wish to hire me? Do I think that they read me here? Some might, but I daresay, not that many. The company looking for me has no desire to see what I am saying - they are just trying to fill a slot as quickly and efficiently as possible. If someone in their employ should hear that there is something negative being said about their company on NotRot, then they would have cause and reason to check it out, and yes, they would then be interested in who is saying what, and if that person is using an alias they might have more reason for concern.

Is your issue with the alias? Or with the linking of the profile to the message? I think that it is with the "link to my profile", but again, I have been known to be wrong.

"And a discussion board useful to perhaps gain or impart some knowledge or a learning experience to others? Would you prefer genuine learning experiences, and actual situations, posted by people that are in this business, or just some crap dreamed up by a moronic passerby?"

I really don't see that many moronic passerbys deciding to drop in here. And if they did, how long do you think that they would last? Do you think that those of us who hang out here would not recognize a moronic passerby with no real knowledge who decided to drop in and get a free listing just to have fun on a notary board? That is so farfetched! If it isn't, then how do you account for a few that have decided to drop in and waste time and pull chains being found out and outed with great derision, and then they left after posting some parting airhead remarks about how stupid we are as ....(whatever).... One in particular that I remember didn't even tell us his name, but as soon as his comment was stricken by NR, we were able to track him down via IP address - took us an hour or so. A few bytes and we can uncover much - we are very good at sleuthing and research. So that comment just doesn't really resonate well with me.

"You say many people here ‘know you’?"

Yeah - I know Janet CA - as an able minded individual. I read her posts, see who else responds, and even though she doesn't link and I have never seen her photo or her profile, I know the caliber of her information, questions and comments by the company that she keeps and draws. I've been reading her for a couple of years now, and I have learned about her enough to know that she speaks slowly and deliberately, even when impassioned. One learns another slowly and through repetition - not because one reads a profile meant to advertise. How many "new & Improved" are still "Old & yucky"?

"Then why remain hidden?"

Personal choice. Many feel they get a more accurate count of visits to their profile by not linking. I know when I post something controversial that my counts go up dramatically. Got 16 hits the other day, not a single phone call. But, I did say something that aroused enough curiosity in others as to who I am.

"How many people posting here EMPLOY you in your ‘true’ identity?"

No one. People posting here, by and large, are signing agents. They want the work for themselves. And, if they wanted to employ me, they would probably start with the "Find a Notary" tab first. Heck, they may rather employ Teresa since they have already had her to do work for them in the past, and just forgot her name at the moment, but would find us both in a search, not by postings.


"I stick by what I said, an anonymous comment, is exactly worth what it’s backed up by. In your case nothing."

Because one is not linked does not make one a nothing. That is just plain ignorant, I'm sorry to say. Les is a man's name and a woman's name - Remember Pat on SNL?- you have no photo - how do I know who/what you are? Where is your photo? Should I use your reasoning - I mean, if your profile is incomplete, by my standards, then does that mean you have no body to present to my borrower? If you can do the job, if you can talk the talk, does it matter?

Reply by Riley/FL on 2/1/10 9:12pm
Msg #320641

Wow, all I can say is thanks, jba, you said it all.

Reply by Les_CO on 2/1/10 11:21pm
Msg #320666

Thanks for your response Julianne.
But this ‘anonymity’ thing is really a moot point. I will always read, and give more attention and credulity to the opinion of someone willing to stand behind their opinions at least with their true identity, than those that will not.
But it’s Harry’s board and it’s his rules that apply.
PS: Yes, Leslie is a girl’s name, I’m not. Believe me I’ve had to live with it all my life…kind of like Johnny Cash’s song.
I’ve withheld my photo for strictly humanitarian reasons.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/1/10 11:51pm
Msg #320669

"I will always read, and give more attention and credulity to the opinion of someone willing to stand behind their opinions at least with their true identity, than those that will not."

That's your choice and it doesn't bother me in the least. If anyone really wants to find out my full name or where I'm located (which I have posted before), it's very easy to do. (And my town pretty much only has one zip code.) As for "knowing" other people on this board, there are a number of posters who I've personally met and very many more with whom I've exchanged personal messages, and some, phone calls. Anyone who wants to get in touch with me seems to not have any trouble finding me. And as Calinotary said below, I don't expect hiring parties to read this board to find a notary in my area. That's what "Find a Notary" is for.

I've been posting here for at least five years to the best of my recollection. People who come to this forum regularly know much more about me from my posts than anything my profile would tell them. I'm sure that's true of many others, as well. (Not the least of whom is Lee/AR, who I try to always make a point of reading, as I can learn much from her.) The converse is also true, as I feel I've learned a lot about other people from their posts, whether under their real name or not. Doesn't matter to me one iota. When it comes right down to it, what does a person's picture or name tell us about them? All you can do with that information is generalize or stereotype. Is that what you're wanting to do with this information??? Or do you have some other nefarious reason?

I'll agree with you on one thing: thank you, Julianne for your response! Well done - and much appreciated!

Reply by CaliNotary on 2/1/10 10:37pm
Msg #320660

"You wish to remain anonymous on a site that’s primary function is to advertise ones services?"

I hate to break it to you, but in the section of the site that advertises our services, WE'RE NOT ANONYMOUS.

Reply by Laura_V on 2/1/10 7:58pm
Msg #320627

Yeppers. I totally believe all accusitions. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/1/10 8:10pm
Msg #320630

Easy to prove at least *8* profiles by one SS.

Type in 77845 in the Find a notary search. Expand the search to 75 miles.

You can see EIGHT (8) profiles this SS has set up.

What is this person thinking? That they are the only ones who ever thought of doing this and that all the other "honest" people are stupid for not exploiting NR's database? What a wasteland this would be if this kind of replication and exploitation became a common way of advertising one's SS business.

Reply by jba/fl on 2/1/10 8:42pm
Msg #320636

Re: Easy to prove at least *8* profiles by one SS.

That's like buying 8 ads in the phone book yellow pages of the competition, except then they have to pay.

Reply by Teresa/FL on 2/1/10 11:49pm
Msg #320668

Julie - did you report the SS multiple listings in our area? n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 2/2/10 12:22am
Msg #320670

No, haven't really looked...get with me on this though

as I don't like the idea any more than Brenda and others. I've been thinking today on how to cheat - how it is done, etc. and I suppose it is easier to do than I can figure out. I just deplore the dishonety involved. We should be policing our own selves, individually, purely out of principle and ethics.

I guess fear of not ending up with the most toys (he who amasses/dies with the most toys, wins) is a contributing factor. Here's my pragmatic approach: It is just too much to have to clean!

K.I.S.S.

Reply by Teresa/FL on 2/2/10 4:26pm
Msg #320825

Re: No, haven't really looked...get with me on this though

I have been reporting them to Harry as I find them. I will PM or email you with the specific one I am referencing her.

And did you see the guy who has a Rockledge address but shows up within the top 5 free lisitings when searching Orlando zip 32803? I don't know why anyone looking for a notary in Orlando would want someone who has to travel 50 or 60 miles. I emailed him a while back but got not response. Time to report him to Harry too!

Reply by jba/fl on 2/2/10 4:41pm
Msg #320829

Re: No, haven't really looked...get with me on this though

IF he advertises Rockledge, and his web site shows his area with a big circle, 32803 not even in that area. How old is he? 20? And he show license # - are paralegals licensed? # not within confines of notary #'s. Strange