Posted by Dwight/KY on 7/27/10 9:10am Msg #346410
Midnight
If you have a very late signing and it goes past midnight, what date are you to use? Since docs are date sensitive, do you continue with the starting date or change to next days date? TIA
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Reply by GA/Atty on 7/27/10 9:21am Msg #346413
I would continue with the starting date. n/m
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Reply by Linda Juenger on 7/27/10 10:52am Msg #346430
Re: I would continue with the starting date.
I did a signing in a truck stop with a trucker passing through and it was 11:30pm when we started. After going over the critical docs, I then pulled all the notarized ones and did those first. Then we did all the rest. We ran about 15 minutes after midnight but just continued with the date we started.
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Reply by MichiganAl on 7/27/10 12:03pm Msg #346439
I do the same thing as Linda.
Notarized docs before midnight, then just roll with the same date on everything else.
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Reply by Marian_in_CA on 7/27/10 11:07am Msg #346431
Like the others have said, just go with the time/date that you started the process. That's fine.
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Reply by Bob_Chicago on 7/27/10 11:28am Msg #346433
Might be a good idea to hand borrower two
copies of RTC and TIL prior to midnight , so that you can honestly say that you complied with RESPA requirements.
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Reply by paaz on 7/27/10 2:26pm Msg #346456
Re: Some documents must be signed before midnight
According to the SOS of Arizona, all notarized documents, TIL, and NTRC must be signed before midnight or must be dated the following date. This is becuase the documents are most of the time date sensitive. To sign and date these documents after midnight with the previous day's date would be considered backdating.
All other documents can be dated whatever date the lender/title company are requesting the signer to use.
Do hope I have helped.
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Reply by Bob_Chicago on 7/27/10 2:57pm Msg #346460
Kind of "How many NSAs can dance on the head of a pin,
discussion, but curious why any state's SOS would have any interest or anything to say about TIL and RTC, as these are not notarized dox. If TIL and RTC are delivered prior to midnight, do not think that it would be illegal to sign a receipt for them for that date, even if it was receit itself was execited the next day. They were received on the proper date, which is all that RESPA requires. Respa does not even require that the TIL and RTC be signed by the borrower, only that they be delivered , which starts the RTC clock running. Sosme lenders do not require that the TIL and RTC be signed , but it is, of course, a good CYA proceedure.
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Reply by Art_MD on 7/27/10 4:06pm Msg #346466
Use standard time - not daylight saving time....
That way you get an extra hour.
Art
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Reply by jba/fl on 7/27/10 4:14pm Msg #346467
Re: Use standard time - not daylight saving time....
Let's just use PST then - gives us 4 hours. LOL
JK
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