Posted by RonA/CA on 7/11/10 6:43pm
Msg #344555

The Notary Biz.......beware!

The Notary Biz owes for a signing completed almost 40 days ago. I sent an e-mail to Liz Hueg asking about payment and said failure to pay could result in a small claims action against her in court. Her response was as follows: "It actually will be The Notary Biz LLC". "Go ahead"! "I am owed over $100,000.00 and am paying as fast as I can". "Have business loans, personal loans, and have laid off most of my staff so I can pay faster". "Doing everything I can to do the right thing by everyone". "The threat just makes me sick that I am working so hard, when most others would have just filed bankruptcy and given up".

In my opinion she is doing nothing more than 'stealing' from the NSA because she knows from the time she calls & sends the confirmation she has no plans, whatsoever, to pay the NSA. She just wants the fee she gets from the title company to help with her financial problems and could care less about the signing agent.

It seems, to me, more and more signing services, with financial problems, are using very deceptive methods to acquire the services of signing agents for their own financial gain.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 7/11/10 7:47pm
Msg #344557

Welcome to the world of working with under-funded agencies

In all my working years, I have never known of SO MANY agencies in one particular field that not only offer low-ball, but may or may not pay "IF" and "WHEN" they can.

Reply by JulieD/KS on 7/11/10 8:16pm
Msg #344558

40 days isn't really all that long. Many SS companies routinely pay at 45 - 60 days. Do I like it? Not a bit. But, I do'nt start making threats until Day 61 with no payment.

Reply by LisaWI on 7/11/10 8:53pm
Msg #344559

"40 days isn't really all that long". No, its too long. If I tied up my time with comps that paid in 45-60 days I would miss out on the comps that I work for a regular basis that pay quickly. I just dont understand letting comps do this. Give me one good reason why a company cannot pay at least twice a month to their vendors? If they have income coming in from many different companies they should be able to do this.

Reply by JulieD/KS on 7/11/10 11:45pm
Msg #344566

I can't give you a reason why they shouldn't pay twice a month - - they should! But unless you are working directly for the title company, that's just the way things are in this business.

If you don't like it, go into another business. Most companies pay somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 to 60 days so you might as well not get your panties into a bunch over it.

Reply by LisaWI on 7/12/10 8:16am
Msg #344572

"If you don't like it, go into another business." LOL, I dont have to go into another business, all I have to do is 'choose' who I want to work for and how I would like to receive payment within reasonable terms with a said company. And I do!! 98% of the companies that I do business with and adore by the say, pay on funding or within 2 weeks of the closing.

Signing Services that pay 45-60 days are not going to change their payment habits because the bulk of the people who work for them accept these terms even though they dont agree with them. Strange......it would seem the SS's are running the show when here I thought we were all independent business owners who need an income stream coming in to operate efficiently just as they do if not more so because of the consumable expenses we use right away for the closing before we get payment.

No bunched panties and I wont bend over either

Reply by jba/fl on 7/12/10 8:44am
Msg #344573

Lisa - thanks for morning Smile! It's a megawatt one. n/m

Reply by JulieD/KS on 7/12/10 1:02pm
Msg #344609

Okay - I guess I misunderstood, Lisa. I thought you were upset because some SS hadn't paid you in 40 days.

I don't work for these silly SS companies anymore either. I have a few really good companies that pay in 2 weeks or less and I'm sticking with them.

Reply by Grammyzoom on 7/11/10 8:58pm
Msg #344560

I agree about the 60 + days. So many of the SS started with little or no investment capital and the title companies are paying much slower than they used to. So it is that the trickle down comes to your doorway. I am sure that there will be a lot of people who will disagree with my method but it has worked for me for many years with the exception of those companies like Signatures Plus who were not paying their notaries at all.

I have found that about 45 days (and Not at the end of the month), is a good time to give a gentle call asking about your payment. And to keep myself from being totally humiliated in the event that I received the payment and did not mark my Accounts Receivable, I usually will say something like "I am just following up to make sure that payment wasn't send out and I missed it and if it hasn't been sent when can I expect payment. Is there anything you need from me in order to send the payment to me?" This seems to work. I called a company last week and found out that I was expected to send an invoice. The gal that hired me is no longer with the company and she never told me that I needed to submit an invoice. Got the check right away.

If you call up demanding payment you are setting yourself up for a very unpleasant experience.

Reply by Linda Juenger on 7/11/10 9:04pm
Msg #344561

I am at 119 days with Notary Biz. Never again.

The only reason I was paid ( I had to call twice) I threatened to call the borrower, and BEFORE you slam me, this is why. The borrower was an Assistant States Attorney and I know her boss, The State's Attorney" pretty well (our kids went to college together). I would not have hesitated to call them for help being paid in that circumstance. Just so you know, I have never called a borrower yet in over 5 years. It was a threat that worked in my favor. I don't have any leverage like that on the one I am owed now. Darn.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 7/12/10 6:46am
Msg #344570

Linda, I'm sure the SA would be more than THRILLED

to hear from you, especially if its to complain about a company that is ripping off folks. This regme LOVES to go after those companies...so IMHO, its worth an email or call!

Reply by James Dawson on 7/12/10 2:11am
Msg #344568

Try 365 days no pay..interest building up! n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 7/11/10 9:05pm
Msg #344562

The comments in SC are one star for most this year. It looks like many people are having a problem getting paid. Looks like a DBSS.

Reply by SReis on 7/11/10 10:03pm
Msg #344563

Too bad they used to be a great co. to work with :-( n/m

Reply by RonA/CA on 7/11/10 10:16pm
Msg #344564

Re: Too bad they used to be a great co. to work with :-(

I agree they used to be great to work with on signings. Over the past couple of years I did 15 or 20 for them w/o payment issues. I checked SS way before taking this signing and when Liz called I questioned her about payment and I understood it would be within 30 days. In fact, her website clearly states, & I quote "We require a call from each signing with a status. In return, we pledge to pay you fairly, and in a timely fashion". When I sent an e-mail indicating I would be posting negative comments on notary forums regarding The Notary Biz she responded and I believe in a 'sarcastic' way......"Thank you for your support!"

Reply by 101livescan on 7/12/10 8:55am
Msg #344574

I haven't been completely stiffed since Paige Tiffany of Eleventh Hour Signings and DocuservUSA went out of biz leaving many unpaid signings in their paths. I won't work for many SS's since then. If there is a RUSH job and a SS I've never heard of calls me, I ask to be paid by Pay Pal right away. If not, I'm not interested. Why work for free. So many companies are going by the wayside, unable to pay their notaries while they've collected the fees. Title companies disburse in usually 3-7 days if you're listed on the HUD. I can't see the logic in toiling for nothing, so I won't. Just because the phone rings.....doesn't mean we should be duped into gratis work.

Reply by SShoreDude on 7/12/10 9:05am
Msg #344575

Uggh

Well they owe me too, and I got the same schpeal about how they had a client go out of business or something. I wonder if they paid Notary Biz before they did go out of biz. anyway, at least they are trying to pay and not filing bankruptcy and gloating about not paying like other unreputable outfits did. if they had a problem and it took them longer to pay me, say six months, I would respect that more then backing out and declaring bankruptcy, or not paying.

we'll see

b

Reply by Les_CO on 7/12/10 9:18am
Msg #344576

There are many people in the SS business that are WAY undercapitalized. Most in the SS business should not be.
Someone that can’t make it as a NSA, or thinks they can make a few extra bucks as a SS, just simply don’t have a clue. Most of these people are in trouble from day one, they just don’t realize it until it’s too late. The problem with their inexperience and bad business practices is that WE get to pay for their mistakes.
Some are just thieves from day one that plan not to pay those that will work for them. They as a group are pretty successful.

Reply by James Dawson on 7/12/10 9:30am
Msg #344577

Agree with you Les. All you gotta do is understand the legal system and have no heart or character.