Posted by DD/OR on 6/8/10 1:19pm
Msg #340226

Signing Central is no good

Notaries are still at risk. SC is not adding bad companies to the database. I have tried to add 2 companys and it is not letting me add them. It says the company is in the system but Yet it doesn't show up. Today I tried to add Urban Settlement Services and couldn't. How many other notaries are trying to add bad companys and couldn't? I don't have confidence in SC anymore.

Reply by Moneyman/TX on 6/8/10 1:35pm
Msg #340229

When you attempt to add a company to SC and are unable to, more than likely, it means that either the company or someone from that company (using the same phone number or address, etc) is already listed under the agent listings (probably under their own name). It could even be that someone that works for the company has a listing and is using the company address, phone, or other company information that is the actual reason that blocks the company at that time from being listed. Just a guess on my part, but I think it is so that one company is not listed several times in SC and/or in the agent listings.

When I run into this, I just send an email to NotRot with the information about the company and that I am unable to get them listed. Usually within a few days, or less, they have been able to contact the person listed in the agent listing and have been able to get the needed information to complete the listing. I have received an email after they are up about the added company.

With so many notaries starting to farm out work themselves (ie starting SS companies) this will be the case when the company name attempts to be added. I realize that once the NotRot program blocks the attempt it does give a notice that NotRot will be contacted about it so that they can attempt to get them listed. I have just sent the email as an added note as well as because they are so good about getting back to you when the company has been added I use it as a reminder for myself. I'm not trying to bombard NotRot with emails, but this has worked for me in the past.

Reply by DD/OR on 6/8/10 2:03pm
Msg #340235

One company I tried to add, I did email NR about the company but it still wasn't added and I wasn't contacted. In the past I have added several companys successfully, but lately it is impossible to get them added. So I ask, what good is SC? Notaries are still at risk.

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 6/8/10 2:21pm
Msg #340239

I have only tried to add a company that's not there a couple of times, and I was successful, and I have been able to add comments to existing companies without issue. So I can't help you there. But to say that SC is no good is a knee jerk reaction. How much time are you giving Harry to get back to you? He has always gotten back to me, but you may have to give it a little bit of time. It's not just you or me on the board.

Signing central is just one tool you should be using. It's not the end all, be all. You can also search for a specific company in the notary talk section. I get a hit nearly every time I use the orange search button. You can also check BBB for local info on the company. There are many other tools available, too numerous to list here.

"Notaries are still at risk."

Anyone in any business is at risk. It's part of the game. A perfectly operating SC is still not going to guarantee "no risk". Using a combination of tools is your best answer. However, even using all the tools at your disposal, you can still get burned. It's just the way things are. It's up to the individual business person to make use of the tools available and take responsibility for the decision he/she makes.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/8/10 2:52pm
Msg #340243

You have to realize that before they can add a company that has already got a listing as a notary they have to be able to contact that company first before they can be added as a company.

I was always just listed as a notary in the Find A Notary section as that is what my membership was - a notary. Before they could list me as a company they had to talk to me first as I already had the notary listing.

I am sure that Harry has many requests to handle. We just can't have everything the minute we want it. If a notary who is listed also has a signing service and doesn't want the signing service listed in SC there is nothing NR can do about it.

SC is an excellent resource.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 6/8/10 3:10pm
Msg #340246

" SC is an excellent resource." Agree.

Also, DD/OR, have you checked SC while not logged on as well as logged on? I've read here that some companies aren't programmed into their system for all areas, so we might see something different depending on our status, i.e. logged in or out. So if that company exists for a different region, you probably wouldn't be able to add it.

Like the others said, I think you should give Harry and staff some slack and allow some time for them to respond. I imagine their first priority (as it should be) is to take care of customer orders. I wouldn't think this type of request qualifies as urgent.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 6/8/10 3:25pm
Msg #340249

Seriously wrong! SC is one of the better if not BEST

comprehensive list of companies that hire that hire NSA's for various gigs. And the rating system is the best. It allows one to judge for themselves, whether accepting a job from one of its listed companies is worth it or not.

Furthermore, SC shouldn't be used to solely list deadbeat companies either. This llist just doesn't even compare to other wannabe lists floating via the internet, IMO.

Not sure why your emails are not getting answered, though it may take a while, but all of my emails ALWAYS get answered.

If this company is very very bad to work for, just list their address, phone and website in your post and someone will eventually link or post it on SC.

But to say that the SC is no good is a very misinformative & untrue statement. Can't tell you how many times I've used this list before accepting gigs from companies that just do not pay.

This SC list is my own personal bible that I use along w/my own personal list I've put together.

......wash your mouth out with soap my dear! JK LOL.

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 3:04pm
Msg #340245

It works for me

I did a search for Urban Settlement Services using the orange search button and all sorts of info came up. Is the problem you want to "see them" listed? Or find out about them. I ask because this is the process I follow if something isn't listed in S/C It works for me.

Reply by Sir_Lawrence on 6/8/10 4:15pm
Msg #340256

Re: It works for me

Express Closings in Seven Hills, OH & Bankers Title & Escrow in Cleveland Hgts, OH have BOTH stiffed me on $125 jobs. I cannot add either and I have contacted NOTROT several times. Neither of the notaries listed on these companies are listed here. I had to give up on adding them.

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 4:21pm
Msg #340257

Re: It works for me

I think Sylvia answered the question but I/WE must not be understanding the problem. Is it you can't get any information about this SS or is it simply you can't add them to S/C?

http://www.notaryrotary.com/forums/searchresults.asp?id=JEC7KBKR&smsg=&requestid=06161806001&code=C85823B024327D60D663E69483647EAA&forumid=1AAA00000003&display=0&format=threaded&forumname=General+Discussion&description=The+most+recent+200+search+results+for+%3Cb%3Etopics%3C%2Fb%3E+containing+the+phrase+%3Cb%3E%22Express+Closings%22%3C%2Fb%3E.&keyword1=Express%20Closings&msgnbr=&keyword2=&startdate=&enddate=&author=&optauthor=0&seldisplay=0

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/8/10 5:07pm
Msg #340260

Just a little info James:)

When you are post a NotaryRotary link in here, that you have copied while you are logged in, all the person clicking on the link will get is the login page:)

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 5:51pm
Msg #340266

Re: Just a little info James:)

You mean they don't get a page showing six topics?

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 5:54pm
Msg #340267

Re: Just a little info James:)

I can duplicate what you say if I'm "Logged out"

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/8/10 6:28pm
Msg #340270

Re: Just a little info James:)

You'd have to log out, then when logged out go to the page and copy it, then log back in and reply to a post and paste it in. Complicated huh? LOL

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 6:40pm
Msg #340273

I understand...what I don't understand is..

Why harry would allow someone to have access to the forum without being a member unless it has something to do with "basic membership". Oh well, thanks for in insight and I may forget to do it but,...I know who does..He He!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/8/10 7:18pm
Msg #340278

Re: I understand...what I don't understand is..

Anyone can read the board James:)

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/8/10 7:40pm
Msg #340280

Re: I understand...what I don't understand is..

Yes....I'm sorry, I was speaking about " the programming platform for access" bur hey, it's not my site so I'll leave it alone. Go Lakers!

Reply by Kaci/TX on 6/8/10 4:24pm
Msg #340258

Re: It works for me

Have you tried using the new search in SC with the phone number? That would let you know if they're already listed under the same phone number but another name

Reply by Dawn Pattee on 6/8/10 6:07pm
Msg #340268

What is SC?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 6/8/10 6:28pm
Msg #340271

Signing Central

Reply by jba/fl on 6/8/10 6:28pm
Msg #340272

SC is Signing Central - blue tab above n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 6/9/10 10:21am
Msg #340321

Signing Central, while not perfect, is the best resource we

have. IMO, to say it's "no good" isn't really accurate. While you say "Notaries are still at risk"--that's part of the business--there is always risk involved. SC does help us to avoid the worst companies & deadbeats. The system is a bit frustrating, in that it doesn't allow total access to all the companies (companies only doing business in certain states, etc.)

Reply by Notarysigner on 6/9/10 11:28am
Msg #340329

I seriously hope you don't feel bad about this post, it is okay to express your personal viewpoint. This is mine.

In 3+ years of doing this I have lost $225.00 due to none payment from a SS and they have four stars, I believe it was a personal issue as most posters think they're pretty good. I could not have determined that would happen to me using NotRot or any other forum. However, using NotRot's S/C as a tool has eliminated any loses I my have suffered as a result of failure to check the companies out. Yes, some I wanted to give a chance but my business plan doesn't allow me to make judgment calls. NotRot is just one of the tools I use. My .02