Posted by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 9:45pm
Msg #327022

Question for Robert

Your profile indicates that you are a member of the "International Society of Florida Commissioners of Deeds." The state of Florida has no knowledge of such a society. As you are the President of this society maybe you know why the state has no knowledge of it.

Reply by Robert/FL on 3/12/10 9:50pm
Msg #327023

First of all, I don't see why you are prying in to my personal business and ratting me out to the state as if I am doing something illegal?

Last I checked, I do not need to notify the state when I start an unincorporated organization.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 9:54pm
Msg #327025

Prying into your personal business????

since when is an international society "personal business"?????

I can assure you that your name was not mentioned to the state. merely a question was posed regarding the society.

Reply by Robert/FL on 3/12/10 9:55pm
Msg #327026

It is an international society in the sense that there are commissioners of deeds for the state of Florida in every corner of the world, and all of them are welcome to join. Membership is free and open to all commissioners.

Reply by KODI/CA on 3/12/10 9:57pm
Msg #327027

Robert, I am in California and am not knowledgeable about Florida rules, however, your postings require me to ask, are you a nutty fruitcake?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 9:58pm
Msg #327028

I was considering becoming one for Florida in England. However it is very difficult to find more info on the process. How many members does the society have?

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/13/10 5:27pm
Msg #327130

Re: Question for Robert - are there timeshares in England? n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/13/10 5:58pm
Msg #327133

Re: Question for Robert - are there timeshares in England?

Yes, there are timeshares in England

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/13/10 6:24pm
Msg #327135

Just to clarify

wasn't sure if you just wanted to know if there were timeshares in England, or wondering about Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds for Florida in England (or any other country).

But a Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds for Florida in any other country can only execute timeshare documents for recording in Florida. And would have to be in the other country to execute the documents.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 3/14/10 10:32pm
Msg #327248

What a bizarre concept...

"But a Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds for Florida in any other country can only execute timeshare documents for recording in Florida. And would have to be in the other country to execute the documents."

So you would actually have to live in or regularly travel to that other country in order for your commission to be of any use? Does FL have so many timeshares that they actually need to plant notaries in other countries? Do you get to charge mileage? Imagine that: "That will be $10 for the notarization, and $1,352.50 for mileage..."

NY has a commissioner of deeds, but it's a totally different thing. With us, it's sort of notary lite - their ability to act is restricted to a specific town or city or other geographic location.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/15/10 8:39am
Msg #327275

Re: What a bizarre concept...

Hmm would be profitable if one could charge mileage to the location.
But if one travels to the foreign country on vacation or any other business, one could use the Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds commission then.
being a British citizen I could be visiting England (I still have family and friends there), and connect with one of the groups there that deal with timeshares in Florida.

"721.97 Timeshare commissioner of deeds.--

(1) The Governor may appoint commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, or oaths in any foreign country, in international waters, or in any possession, territory, or commonwealth of the United States outside the 50 states. The term of office is 4 years. Commissioners of deeds shall have authority to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other writing to be used or recorded in connection with a timeshare estate, personal property timeshare interest, timeshare license, any property subject to a timeshare plan, or the operation of a timeshare plan located within this state; provided such instrument or writing is executed outside the United States. Such acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths must be taken or made in the manner directed by the laws of this state, including but not limited to s. 117.05(4), (5)(a), and (6), Florida Statutes 1997, and certified by a commissioner of deeds. The certification must be endorsed on or annexed to the instrument or writing aforesaid and has the same effect as if made or taken by a notary public licensed in this state. "

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 9:58pm
Msg #327029

I was considering becoming one for Florida in England. However it is very difficult to find more info on the process. How many members does the society have?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 9:58pm
Msg #327030

sorry - double post n/m

Reply by Robert/FL on 3/12/10 10:03pm
Msg #327031

The society has only 4 members at this time. Doesn't sound like a lot but when there are only 85 or so in the whole country, that's almost 5%. If you need more info on becoming a COD, I will see if I can locate the forms.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 10:05pm
Msg #327033

"If you need more info on becoming a COD, I will see if I can locate the forms."

From researching on the net it looks like I had to apply through a timeshare or vacation plan group.

Reply by jba/fl on 3/12/10 10:45pm
Msg #327044

There is a need to sell more timeshares! n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 3/12/10 10:04pm
Msg #327032

Robert...I am seriously worried about you...

It may not be illegal to start an organization but I'd wager there are rules to be followed -more than just saying "Okay..it's the Society and I'm the president"...and to publish this:

"The International Society of Florida Commissioners of Deeds is the first and only non-profit
organization committed to the education of and advocacy for Commissioners of Deeds for the State of Florida. The ISFCOD is your premiere resource for all of your COD needs, including assistance in applying for appointment or re-appointment as a Commissioner of Deeds"

The premier resource in whose eyes? What right do you have to make this claim? By what authority?

Your inflated sense of self-importance is really worrisome...

Reply by KODI/CA on 3/12/10 10:05pm
Msg #327034

Re: Robert...I am seriously worried about you...

As I asked, Nutty Fruitcake????

Reply by cawest/PA on 3/12/10 11:03pm
Msg #327047

Re: Robert...I am seriously worried about you...

EXCUSE ME ... That is the name they gives us CALIFORNIANS when we move out of State and attempt to settle elsewhere for business purposes (here my hubby's company was the guilty party) ... now besides that we are also tree huggers and potsmokers ... LOL

but you have a point

Reply by Cari on 3/13/10 8:08am
Msg #327074

.....he's not a nsa, but I bet he is one of those notaries

that 'specialize' in notary protests...

....frankly bub, all this commissioner of deeds sounds like a bunch of BS the same as notarial protests.....done by a certain class of self-righteous a-holes thinking that they can go around the government to get things done for self-fulfilling purposes only, and NOT for the good of the public.

Robert you are certainly one of the worst wanna-be's on this forum and your're a complete idiot!

Reply by Robert/FL on 3/13/10 8:15am
Msg #327076

If you had actually READ some of my previous posts

without immediately resulting to attacks and insults, I have gone into great detail about those illegal notary protests and I certainly do not get involved in them.

Reply by Cari on 3/13/10 8:25am
Msg #327079

speaking of attacks and INSULTS...thx for your PM the other

day....u def show ur true self-righteous self...

Reply by Laura_V on 3/13/10 9:40am
Msg #327084

btw -

If you think of a super good name that works into a super good url, snabble both DBA and url.

I got Best of Washington. BestOfWA.com cool, eh?


Site was hacked and I have been working too hard to fix another site of mine that got hacked at the same time so you may or may not be able to see it. Might take a month to fix. Doncha hate tech disasters?

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 3/12/10 10:07pm
Msg #327035

Office abolished in 1998

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioner_of_deeds


Not that I take wikipedia as a final word, but the correct title of your "Society" should be

"Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds"

I don't know what your trippin' on, but you better check the quality. You do provide some entertainment, though.

PS Sylvia ... I know you were having a good time there, I hope I didn't spoil your fun, but I couldn't resist.

Reply by Robert/FL on 3/12/10 10:10pm
Msg #327037

Re: Office abolished in 1998

Sorry, but the statutes give us the title "Commissioner of Deeds".

F.S. 721.96:
721.96 Purpose.--The purpose of this part is to provide for the appointment of commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths outside the United States in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other agreement, instrument or writing concerning, relating to, or to be used or recorded in connection with a timeshare estate, personal property timeshare interest, timeshare license, any property subject to a timeshare plan, or the operation of a timeshare plan located within this state.

And no, you don't need to apply through a timeshare. Application is made through the governor's office.

Reply by rengel/CA on 3/12/10 10:43pm
Msg #327043

Re: Office abolished in 1998

Does this mean you can help me get rid of a timeshare in Florida??????

Reply by jba/fl on 3/12/10 10:52pm
Msg #327045

Re: Office abolished in 1998

No, no no - you need another one so that Robert can examine your deed and commission it for use! In fact, several more.

He has to have a RE license to sell ....so just go buy more. Keep this boy employed. yeah!

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 3/12/10 11:06pm
Msg #327049

:) n/m

Reply by Laura_V on 3/13/10 10:07am
Msg #327097

Man, I sure could have used your help last week, Robert....

with docs for a purchase in Belize with docs drawn up HUGELY BADLY by a FL attorney.

Docs so messed up super smart buyers and I could not figure out where they should sign and which signatures I was notarizing as some Belize officer was signing and getting SOME of their siggies notarized, too.


One of my jobs as ofc mgr at law firm in Calif was to correct staff atty letters to clients to fix any arrogant, wrong, language. So I have seen some reaaaally bad writing by attys. (Boss corrected legalese part, natch. If that part just didn't make sense to me, I gave it to him.


What a pain! 2 conferences calls w/ husband, me, and FL sales office. They weren't sure, either. Atty too busy to talk or gone to Paris or something. Sheeesh.


I finally figured it all out and docs were dropped off onto FedEx truck by husband 5 minutes after second conference call.


I'll give you a shout next time I run into this and you'll drop everything and help me for free.
OK?


LOL

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 3/12/10 10:11pm
Msg #327038

Re: Office abolished in 1998

Glenn
Although it is really "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds", the statutes still refer to "Commissioner of Deeds"

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 3/12/10 10:33pm
Msg #327041

Re: Office abolished in 1998


In the actual bill on page 6, we can find the following:

****************

Commissioner of Deeds
The Bill repeals the provisions of law authorizing the creation of a “Commissioner of Deeds”.


*********************

And the new duties of the new office are not the same as the old.

Seems pretty clear, but no matter. My BS detector always goes off when you post. The bottom line is, Robert that you are on one hell of an ego trip there. But you are entertaining.

To other notaries reading this, always know the laws of your own state and even if your state does not have strict requirements for the commissioning of notaries, there are always statutes dealing with your duties. It just may take a little more effort to find and study them.

Reply by PAW on 3/13/10 7:24am
Msg #327068

Billed died in committe n/m

Reply by desktopfull on 3/13/10 12:37am
Msg #327058

Thanks for the entertainment Sylvia. LOL. n/m