Posted by Tess on 5/3/10 12:51pm
Msg #334658

BE AWARE, advertising on the NUMBERS SITE!!!!

I have debated on whether or not to post this and have decided that that I should, for those who do not understand like I did not, how his system works.

I have bought 1st place in my County for years over there and had not had a problem until now. As most know, you HAVE to BUY by COUNTY, but what is not CLEAR is how he runs the ZIP CODE listings! As we also all know, most clients will look us up by zip, so a first listing in the County lookup is of no use to us.

What has occurred is.....a competitor in the next County has bought her 1st place County listing like I did in my County, BUT, she has listed with him in third place longer then I have listed with him in 1st place(of course I paid more per year). So what he does is .....place her as 1st in the zip code listing because she has SENIORITY (This is why you have a P #) over me.

Now that would be fine if she is listed 1st in her County ONLY, but, because she is 18 miles away from me and roughly 10 to 12 miles from our County lines, she is NOW 1st in ALL but ONE zip code within roughly 25 miles of me, in MY County and hers, EVEN MY HOME ZIP CODE!!

Although the zip code listings come up as if our clients are getting the closest person first, THEY ARE NOT! Now also realize that I have not come up as 1st place in as many zips as she now does. over the years that I have paid for my listing!

I do not believe this is a fair way to run an advertising site and did not realize that this type of situation and or overlap would happen. The owner will not fix this situation,(he only offered to move MY ZIP or squeeze MY RADIUS) so BE AWARE of what you are getting, when you buy your advertising over there!!! Older advertisers have an unfair ADVANTAGE over all new advertisers!!

Everything I have just said is TRUE and can not be considered anything but that!

Reply by MW/VA on 5/3/10 1:18pm
Msg #334659

This seems to be the #1 complaint with them. Every now & then someone will get a call from them, offering them a particular spot at xxxxx$. I was #2 in my area, and then they sold a new #1 spot to my competitor (someone I had trained & mentored). Many question the way they do business. BTW I had just renewed when this happened. It is still an important site for me to be listed on, and I will continue to list there.
I like the way NotRot does business much better. Placement has to do with distance in any particular zip code, so it's completely fair. No "bidding" wars for the top spot.

Reply by loancloser46 on 5/3/10 1:18pm
Msg #334660

I found this out the hard way too. I do not understand the thought process behind it.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 1:25pm
Msg #334662

I am wondering how he has been able to do this for so long. I have contacted the FTC, so we will see!

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 5/3/10 1:45pm
Msg #334663

Fair or not (in your eyes) it's his biz and he can run it the way he sees fit. There is nothing that the FTC can do about it.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:05pm
Msg #334667

No he can not!! There are laws regarding advertising. Look at the FTC site before making that statement!

Reply by JanetK_CA on 5/3/10 2:19pm
Msg #334673

Out of curiosity, what FTC law are you talking about? n/m

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:27pm
Msg #334675

Re: Out of curiosity, what FTC law are you talking about?

Read:

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/15/2/I/45

Also:


The Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Competition champions the rights of American consumers by promoting and protecting free and vigorous competition. The Bureau:

reviews mergers and acquisitions, and challenges those that would likely lead to higher prices, fewer choices, or less innovation;
seeks out and challenges anticompetitive conduct in the marketplace, including monopolization and agreements between competitors;
promotes competition in industries where consumer impact is high, such as health care, real estate, oil & gas, technology, and consumer goods;
provides information, and holds conferences and workshops, for consumers, businesses, and policy makers on competition issues and market analysis


http://www.ftc.gov/bc/index.shtml

Reply by JanetK_CA on 5/3/10 3:12pm
Msg #334692

Re: Out of curiosity, what FTC law are you talking about?

I don't have time to read the whole thing now (and probably won't bother) but I don't see how this applies. The other site is an independent third party. If one notary was taking unfair action in an anti-competitive way against another, then these laws might apply. However, I agree that Jeremy has the right to run his business any way he sees fit - and each of us has the right to participate or not. Obviously, he doesn't have a monopoly on advertising notary services. You don't like the way he runs his business (and I'm not saying I defend his practices), then you can try to ask for your money back and not list with him - or just don't renew next time. jmho.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 3:19pm
Msg #334694

Re: What he is doing allows her an

to monopolize over others! She did nothing but buy what I bought!

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 5/3/10 2:24pm
Msg #334674

Take a chill pill.

Tess, tell us what laws.

Reply by Ilene C. Seidel on 5/4/10 6:55am
Msg #334766

I'm also listed there and haven't been concerned about how I'm listed. I feel the
Important factor with any site is how you critique youself. It needs to be eyecatching to the
Potential cient that will over ride the quirks in the site.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 5/3/10 1:53pm
Msg #334664

Tess....did you post this over there?

Only fair - not sure he'd be allowed to respond and defend himself or his website here...

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:06pm
Msg #334668

Re: Tess....did you post this over there?

Let him post, there is nothing he can defend, I told the truth in what happened!

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:08pm
Msg #334669

Re: PS: I also have his emails saying the same! n/m

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:10pm
Msg #334671

Not yet! n/m

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 5/3/10 2:30pm
Msg #334676

Think this post should be removed, IMHO

I just think it's unfair to rant about how unfair you think someone is treating you, when they have no means of representing themselves and are a direct competitor of this site.

Older advertisers do not have an "unfair" advantage, they have the advantage of seniority - which I personally think is quite fair. I pay for first place in my county, and I had to WAIT years to get that space until I moved up enough in seniority. If I let it go, it will be offered to the next person down the ladder - until someone is found that wishes to purchase it (and it's most definitely not cheap). Are you saying it would be MORE fair for someone to buy that place from under my feet, when it comes up for renewal?

Maybe before you buy something, you should pay more attention to the details and ask questions FIRST. The only question I really put to my advertising purchases is: "Does it WORK?" If it works ...it's worth every penny.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:34pm
Msg #334677

All advertisers should be treated equally! n/m

Reply by JanetK_CA on 5/3/10 3:14pm
Msg #334693

I don't agree

Many people in many businesses make concessions or provide extra services for long time, loyal customers. This site does the same thing. I don't see any difference.

Reply by rengel/CA on 5/3/10 2:36pm
Msg #334679

Re: Think this post should be removed, IMHO **I Agree**

I agree that this should be removed. What happens on other sites should stay on other sites. Don't bring your arguments over here and don't bring arguments from here to another site.

My .02

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:39pm
Msg #334681

Re: Think this post should be removed, IMHO **I Agree**

This is a consumer issue not a fight! I have all the right to report this wherever I wish.

Just because you may get your money’s worth there, does not make what he is doing RIGHT!

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/3/10 3:02pm
Msg #334687

I guess I feel like Tess probably came here b/c

it's her water cooler. Frustrated...wanted to vent.

Reply by mwm143 on 5/3/10 2:37pm
Msg #334680

No less fair than

a notary new to the scene, with no experience in this industry signing up in my zip code here, there, or any other site, putting anything they want in their profile without any verification or certification and getting paid the same fee as me.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 2:40pm
Msg #334682

Re: If they pay what you pay and get what you get, it's fair n/m

Reply by mwm143 on 5/3/10 2:55pm
Msg #334686

Re: If they pay what you pay and get what you get, it's fair

I was speaking in response to someone else's post and more in general that since this business is not regulated and advertising ones self is a free for all. Seniority and experience really doesn't matter.

With regards to your situation, what was the company's response when you contacted them about their obvious error? I'm assuming that they refused to correct any problems which has brought you here to complain?

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 3:04pm
Msg #334688

Re: If they pay what you pay and get what you get, it's fair

The responded just as I stated in my first post.

PS: This is for everyone's awareness, not complaining! All talks with him is off, I will let the FTC handle this.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 5/3/10 4:27pm
Msg #334697

I kind of agree.

I totally agree that this post seems out of place here, only because nobody really talks about them. However, I don't really disagree with the OP's sentiment. I had my own experience with that website and the owner essentially told me I was stupid when it was his system causing the problem and I had it very well documented as such. So, do I feel bad for this individual? Not a bit because I do believe there are issues there. But, does this really belong at NotRot? I'm not sure.

But then, the NNA is a competitor to NotRot, too, and those posts are generally fine. So... why not this one, too? Just looking at all sides, here.

Of course, this one site's name is blacked here and the NNA isn't. That's probably all we need to know.

Reply by Notarysigner on 5/3/10 4:40pm
Msg #334700

Re: I kind of agree.

Marian, you are soooo good! Of course I figured out how to adjust your position there without really trying. You'd be suprised what else I found out.

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/3/10 5:41pm
Msg #334712

Re: I kind of agree.

*But then, the NNA is a competitor to NotRot, too, and those posts are generally fine. So... why not this one, too? Just looking at all sides, here.*

Good point, Marian. You always have a level look at things. You are amazing, actually in how sharp you are.

Tess has been here forever...I really don't want to see Tess hammered here for venting her frustrations. I don't have a problem with the #'s site, at all...but, I'm sorry that Tess can't say how frustrated she is without having to defend her frustrations at the same time...but I guess that's the price we all pay for venting publicly.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 5:49pm
Msg #334714

Re: Thank you Brenda. : ) I knew this would happen, so I am

ok with it. We all get calls from there, but it is still is not right.

I can only wish that other sites do better!

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/3/10 6:00pm
Msg #334716

I don't understand it, exactly.

I would naturally expect that Jeremy would defend his position here...and rightly so. I think that's happened before, maybe. Harry's a fair guy. This site moves so fast and is so active that if you have an issue, this is THE PLACE to get feedback in a hurry, whether it be notary related or otherwise. Naturally, I come here when I want good feedback about many things...we know one another and have develop trust for one another's opinions.

Let me just say that I don't think you are doing something so awful to vent to this group about a situation that you find to be inequitable. As Marian so aptly pointed out...this isn't the first time that a competitor has be discussed on this board.

I don't see the problem. I'm just kind of "blah" about the remarks I've seen. And, hey...it's not like we are best friends, or anything...I don't think we've ever exchanged an email. But, I have watched "Tess" for going on six or seven years now and think that she wouldn't be bringing this up if there wasn't a reason for us to listen. But, that's just me.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/3/10 2:49pm
Msg #334683

Is this really any different than

posting negative comments about signing services? After all, they do not have the chance to defend themselves on this board.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 5/3/10 2:54pm
Msg #334685

Umm...yes it IS different Robert..and yes they DO

come on here to defend themselves...

This is a rant against a competitor which, IMO, should be taken to that site an not aired here..

Hopefully Admin will remove it.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 3:06pm
Msg #334690

Re: I said nothing to have it taken off, just the truth! n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/3/10 3:12pm
Msg #334691

Re: Is this really any different than

Signing Services do have a chance to defend themselves on here. Luckily I have never had to defend my Signing Service, but could if I needed to.

Reply by Jeremy Belmont on 5/3/10 4:27pm
Msg #334698

We guarantee placement on COUNTY pages, not zip results

At the numbers site we guarantee placement on county pages, not zip results due to the unconrollable overlap from neighboring counties -- for notaries near a county border.
Please read our POLICIES PAGE for details.

Tess is in Hennepin county 1.3 miles from the Ramsey county line in Minnesota. Someone in Ramsey county six miles from her is overlapping with her zip radius. We can not control this, nor does our policies page claim to control this. Tess is NOT entitled to be #1 on her zip code, but WAS entitled to be #1 on her county page until her expiration date with us. Tess and others near county borders, need to learn to live with the fact that overlap is a part of life, and that we can't control it.

Please read our policies page at our URL... and then add /policies.htm
This policies page is accessible from a link on our home page of the numbers site.
Please don't call us about this issue, just read the policies page.

The numbers site abides by the policies in its policies page. Your dealings with us will be fine unless you expect us to change our policies to meet your personal needs and your personal situations. Also, if you don't understand our policies and then blame us and antagonize us, that is another problem. We are the ones who set our policies, not you. Our policies are designed to best meet the needs of the community as a whole, and not particular individuals.

Reply by Jeremy Belmont on 5/3/10 4:30pm
Msg #334699

Please read the numbers site's POLICIES PAGE

Our policies page has been around for years and addresses all issues pertaining to zip codes. Tess bought a listing without understanding our policies. She never read our policies. After we verbally explained our policies, she antagonized us endlessly and refused to understand or cooperate with us so that we could better serve us.

Our policies page is accessible from the home page of the numbers site.
Or just visit our home page, and add the suffix /policies.htm

We guarantee placement on COUNTY PAGES, but zip search results are subject to uncontrollable overlap which varies from zip code to zip code, and is a problem near county borders where Tess is.

Reply by Notarysigner on 5/3/10 4:43pm
Msg #334702

Re: Please read the numbers site's POLICIES PAGE

Well now...looks like someone is defending themselves. Go Jeremy!

Reply by Jeremy Belmont on 5/3/10 4:42pm
Msg #334701

Sorry, this individual is in Pennsylvania, not Minnesota

We had two identical situations on the numbers site this month with individuals on county lines. I confused the two. Tess is in Pennsylvania, not Minnesota. She is at the border of two counties and had an overlap issues. Please read our policies page accessible from our home page in the signup section.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 4:54pm
Msg #334703

Re: Overlap is one thing but not over 10 miles or more!

I wonder why you only sell by County and keep control by zip? Why???

What reason do you have to not allow zip coverage? Is it because you can then change things to suit your whims??

Why can’t you fix the overlap on her side, why just put me in a smaller radius? If you can change my area, what stops you from playing with all areas??

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 4:58pm
Msg #334704

Re: Oh, I forgot! As you stated In your emails,

am not playing by your rules!

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 5:14pm
Msg #334705

Re: Also, isn't it true?

Carmen has always told me and you recently have offered that I could put my zip code as none (as some has done on your site) or list it as another! Isn’t that unfair to others, and this is something you do all the time?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/3/10 5:21pm
Msg #334706

Re: Also, isn't it true?

Tess
isn't this something that needs to be discussed privately with you and Jeremy, rather than bicker on this forum?

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 5:28pm
Msg #334709

Re: This is a reply to what defense he has, since he has

that right, so do I. There is no more to be discussed, I am telling you what I know to be the truth about his site, and then it is up to you to decide if you wish to be part of it.

Reply by kathy/ca on 5/3/10 5:22pm
Msg #334707

I have over the years rec'd MANY more calls from the "#'s"

website than from any other site I am listed on, I would never complain about their policies. For me, joining their directory of notaries has been very profitable for many years.

Reply by Notarysigner on 5/3/10 5:25pm
Msg #334708

Ditto the "#'s" n/m

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 5:30pm
Msg #334710

Re: Money is the root of all evil as you may know! n/m

Reply by Susan Fischer on 5/3/10 5:37pm
Msg #334711

Tess: "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which

while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

King James Bible, 1 Timothy 6:10.

Just so you know - money isn't the problem, it's greed.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 5:42pm
Msg #334713

Re: Exactly! Did not want to quote the bible here, but,

thank you!

Reply by MW/VA on 5/3/10 6:13pm
Msg #334717

The actual quote is, "the love of money is the root of all

evil".

Reply by Susan Fischer on 5/3/10 6:35pm
Msg #334721

I guess it depends on which version - there are

many - and the interpretations vary somewhat.

Reply by LynnNC on 5/4/10 11:55am
Msg #334792

I have, as well! n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 5/3/10 6:15pm
Msg #334718

I'm glad Jeremy was able to respond with an explanation.

It is still hard to understand the "p" # thing, and how a new one becomes available, without letting the other people listed know that it is available.

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 7:20pm
Msg #334724

Re:You just got to love what I just got in an email!

Not scared, as I plan to consult an attorney I work for, myself on this issue. I am losing business since he changed the zips.


Do not know about yielding bad results! There is a BIG overlap here, not a small one; I personally think that is a bad result

Hi Teresa,
We do NOT control zip search results. Overlap happens everywhere. You are near the border of the county. We can not control the overlap unless we reduce the radius to 4 miles which will yield a bad search results.

You are harming my business' reputation and that is liable. I can sue for liable if this continues. Kindly refrain from saying anything public about my company.

Sincerely,
Jeremy Belmont

Reply by MW/VA on 5/3/10 8:00pm
Msg #334727

I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

explanation that the system is set up to purchase by county & not by zip code.
I always forget that part too, especially since we don't even have counties in my region.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 5/3/10 8:16pm
Msg #334731

Re: I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

No system is perfect -- zip code, county... they all have their issues. I live in a county of nearly 10 million people, yet I live at the very northern edge of that county out in BFE. A big portion of my work is actually in the county to the north of me.

And zip code searches are basically useless unless you're in a heavily populated area with small zip code areas. My zip code is ENORMOUS, yet I live on the western edge of it. People down the street from me, in the next zip code, tend to get results that place me 15-20 miles away (or more) from them when in fact I might be the closest notary to them.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 5/3/10 8:18pm
Msg #334732

Re: I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

Whoops, I also meant to add that my comments above apply to just about ALL sites out there, not one or another. Although, NotRot did recently make some great changes in that department.

Reply by Claudine Osborne on 5/3/10 8:19pm
Msg #334733

Re: I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

Tess, I would take all the advice you have gotten here and keep quiet on this site! The numbers site is a great place to list your services! I have by far made a lot of money from this listing and it has paid for itself over and over. You have dragged Jeremey on this site and he responded very professionaly..follow his lead and move on!

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 8:42pm
Msg #334738

Re: I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

Like I said, I reported what I know is true as to his site, my intent was only informational, and so I am not afraid of a suit.

BUT

Like everything else, I believe things happen for a reason.

I was involved in an accident no long ago; some guy blew a stop sign (he had one I did not, and admitted blowing it) at 45 miles per hour and hit me. His excuse, he was lost and the sun was in his eyes. Thankfully, it was not a head-on into my drivers door, so I came out of it with just a few marks, very shaken, but ok. My car is considered totaled (I am borrowing my husbands second car at the moment, he is using his old pickup again : ) ) and although I did not want to get another car this way!! I have been thinking on getting a 4 wheel drive sometime, and now find that I can get some good deals right now with the insurance settlement. So, although it hurt at the time, it will work out for the best.

And in this instance, because of this, I am meeting with someone for marketing help; I would not have taken that step for awhile yet, had I not been given the impetus to do so.

But I will also not close my eyes to what has occurred either!

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 5/3/10 8:51pm
Msg #334739

Re: I would take his warning seriously. He has provided an

I think that while a lot of what everyone is saying is absolutely true, it's also true that there are issues. The setup *IS* confusing and the explanations are outdated.

For example, the following phrase is taken from a page on that site:

"New signups on [site name] have an N# of 2850 currently as of October of 2004."

Great. But it's 2010... how is that at all current?

Reply by MikeC/NY on 5/3/10 11:22pm
Msg #334748

Re: Re:You just got to love what I just got in an email!

"You are harming my business' reputation and that is liable."

Liable for what?

"I can sue for liable if this continues"

Oh, I get it - he means "libel"... His attorneys probably know the difference...

At any rate, yes, he can certainly sue you for that, and whether or not he would prevail is a jump shot. The point is, it's going to cost you time and money (possibly a LOT of money) to defend against - do you really want to go down that road? I seriously doubt that the FTC is going to intervene - this is small potatoes to them, and they don't have the resources to deal with small potatoes.

I agree with the others - take this dispute private and settle it that way. Maybe he will agree to refund all or part of what you paid him; maybe he won't, and if so, you certainly have the right to not renew again if it turns out that your business has been seriously impacted by his policies. I understand your anger and frustration, but if you continue bringing this up in a public forum - either here or there - you're just asking for problems. You've got a beef that needs to be resolved, but it's between you and him and it really shouldn't be aired publicly, IMO...

Reply by Susan Fischer on 5/4/10 12:25am
Msg #334756

<Applause> Or in another vernacular: Take it outside. n/m

Reply by LKT/CA on 5/3/10 8:31pm
Msg #334735

The placement positions by county and seniority are confusing - but one thing I know for sure......what will set your business apart is the customer service you provide and the fact that you answer your phone. Even if this person you mentioned is listed first on every list in the world - she cannot be everywhere at once nor will she always be available or always answer her phone.

Many times I've been told that 6 or 7 notaries called before me didn't answer their phone or didn't want the job (It's Friday night, after all!). My listing has paid for itself so I don't worry too much anymore about how that is accomplished. If you are vehemently opposed to how the other site's advertising matrix is structured, save those marketing dollars for other avenues. Just don't advertise there. I gave up trying to figure it out a long time ago. I just know it pays for itself and that works for me.

Reply by Notarysigner on 5/3/10 8:42pm
Msg #334737

You said it all. That's that and that's it!

Reply by Tess on 5/3/10 11:42pm
Msg #334750

Re: No wonder this business is in such a mess!!!

Every one for themselves, no sense of right and wrong, and you run with your tail between your legs at the word sue!

Reply by Jeremy Belmont on 5/3/10 11:56pm
Msg #334752

I offered Teresa a prorated refund.. and she refused

Teresa refused my offer for a prorated refund for the time she had remaining on the numbers site. I am tired of the endless antagonism and would prefer to have this issue settled with a refund. Although our policies don't entitle those with listings a refund, occassionally, I will offer a refund to a notary who is very unhappy. This happens a few times per year. The numbers site wants to give the browsers the best search results possible, and if a notary is miserable on our site, I don't think that enhances the search experience for the browsers. She can stay if she likes. The only way to solve her issue is to create an alias zip code farther from the county line which would eliminate overlap. Also, I could reduce the zip radius a bit, if I had a POLITE request to lower it to a reasonable level. Many things can be accomplished through polite discussion.

Reply by Tess on 5/4/10 2:56am
Msg #334758

Re: I offered Teresa a prorated refund.. and she refused

I had asked twice for a refund with no results. It was after I knew I had to verify my losses in case I file a lawsuit, that he offered and I refused. I have to keep the site, in order to know that only his change, not my own, has cost me business. Of course, if he fixes the inequity on his site, I would stay, otherwise I will not renew in October. Hey, then maybe someone else can pay to NOT to be first in the zip code!

Reply by Tess on 5/4/10 4:10am
Msg #334764

Re: Even better, maybe my competitor will buy it and

take over both Counties! If they all did that, wouldn't that be nice!!!

Reply by Tess on 5/4/10 4:51am
Msg #334765

My last response to all of this!

The above is a good way to become a signing service; you take all the calls first and farm them out!

If you do not see the scope in all of this, then you are lost!

Reply by MW/VA on 5/4/10 8:37am
Msg #334771

Tess, IMO, this is all out of line for the forum. IMO this

matter should have been handled privately (which would be the professional way) instead of ranting on & on here.

Reply by mwm143 on 5/4/10 8:58am
Msg #334773

I can't believe this is still being discussed. n/m

Reply by Colleen Martin on 5/4/10 9:50am
Msg #334775

Re: I can't believe this is still being discussed.

totally agree. solve it privately with jeremy. if you're unhappy, don't sign up with notaryrotary at all. i've been extremely happy with notaryrotary. jeremy does a great job, it's a good source for information and it didn't cost me much at all considering all the business i get from it. jeremy gave me an extension last year because, well, i was broke. we worked it out with no arguments and he was really cool about it. sorry you're unhappy but it looks like the rest of us find the benefits in it like i do.
cheers,

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/4/10 10:01am
Msg #334777

Colleen

NotaryRotary is Harry Jeremy is with another notary site - referred to here as the "numbers site"

Reply by rengel/CA on 5/4/10 11:15am
Msg #334788

This is like watching a 2-yr old throw a temper tantrum... n/m

Reply by Tess on 5/4/10 11:32am
Msg #334790

Re: Well, I felt that knife in my back! n/m

Reply by Pat/IL on 5/4/10 11:30pm
Msg #334900

This has been interesting.

I think it's interesting that Jeremy, the owner of the numbers site, refers to his own site as the numbers site, out of respect for the rules set by the owner of this site, who wishes not to see the name of his competitor's site used on his forum.

In the local title and abstract market I am grateful to still be a part of, we work with our competitors when all can benefit. We even have a beer together now and then.

Then again, I think Harry is having a little bit of a chuckle over all of this. It can't be all that bed for his own business.

Thank you for listening to my random thoughts. I may have another one some day.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/5/10 7:34am
Msg #334916

Re: This has been interesting.

"I think it's interesting that Jeremy, the owner of the numbers site, refers to his own site as the numbers site, out of respect for the rules set by the owner of this site, who wishes not to see the name of his competitor's site used on his forum."

I think he had to refer it as the numbers site. If you put in the name of the site, the message won't post - I just tried to put the site name in to check if the message would be accepted, and got the message that there was a problem with my post.