Posted by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 11:45am
Msg #338767

Using scales of justice on a notary seal

Any thoughts? Do you think that's too much?

I found a website with cheap embossers and I could get one with the scales of justice in the center.

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 12:21pm
Msg #338775

***Do you think that's too much?***

That's so far over the top, Robert, that you're close to being in orbit.

Notaries public don't have anything to do with Justice, except at best peripherally in support of someone or some entity that does. You operate in strictly a ministerial capacity to implement the efforts of someone who IS doing something that has direct impact.

Plus, in Texas, the form of our seal is prescribed by law. It doesn't include any women: Women blindfolded, women holding scales, women blindfolded by scales over their eyes, or women holding scales that in turn hold blindfolds.

Bad idea. Really bad idea.

Maybe an icon of someone in threadbare pants, ragged shirt and scruffed shoes looking forlornly at a check only two-thirds the size it should be. That might fly, and would be closer to reality.

Reply by CaliNotary on 5/28/10 1:38pm
Msg #338805

I have never seen anyone work so hard

at trying to get people to verbally beat him up.

You're just a notary Robert. Accept it.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 1:42pm
Msg #338808

I was asking an honest question

If I get beat up it is not because of me, it's because you feel some need to attack me.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 1:44pm
Msg #338809

and FYI I am more than "just a notary"

I'm a notary extraordinare

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/28/10 2:27pm
Msg #338828

aka, Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds for FL in the Bahamas.. n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 5/28/10 2:35pm
Msg #338835

Not to mention, "Self- appointed expert at everything". n/m

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 2:54pm
Msg #338839

My comm. doesnt have the word "timeshare" anywhere on it n/m

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/28/10 5:45pm
Msg #338873

not that I want to beat this dead horse over again, BUT

your COD is a GENERIC TITLE. The Florida statute further defines that title as "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds".

And, as you know, Florida only has one TYPE OF COD (cite 721.97 of the Florida 2009 Statutes)

Do you at least acknowledge this fact?

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 5:51pm
Msg #338876

Re: not that I want to beat this dead horse over again, BUT

I acknowledge that there is only one type of COD.

However, the phrase "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds" is only used in the title of that section. All of the text of the statutes themselves refers to the office as only "Commissioner of Deeds", and my commissioned title is "Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas" - exactly as listed on my commission and my oath of office. Thus, I have no need to place the word "timeshare" in front of my title for any purpose whatsoever.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/28/10 6:57pm
Msg #338887

per the statute...TITLE XL. REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY

CHAPTER 721. VACATION AND TIMESHARE PLANS

PART I VACATION PLANS AND TIMESHARING (ss. 721.01-721.32)

PART II VACATION CLUBS (ss. 721.50-721.58)

PART III FORECLOSURE OF LIENS ON TIMESHARE ESTATES (ss. 721.80-721.86)

PART IV COMMISSIONER OF DEEDS (ss. 721.96-721.98)

721.96 Purpose

721.97 Timeshare commissioner of deeds

721.98 Powers of the division

You somehow have taken the Purpose of the COD and separated it from the Timeshare part? Why? It is all inclusive. The powers of the DIVISION, which falls under the TIMESHARE COD section, is under the GENERIC TITLE of COD.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 7:16pm
Msg #338890

Re: per the statute...TITLE XL. REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY

The TITLE of Section 721.97 is the ONLY PLACE in the Florida Statutes where the word "timeshare" is placed before the phrase "Commissioner of Deeds". The title of the section is not important - the important thing is the actual text of the statutes. I don't know why it bothers you so much that I do not place the word "Timeshare" before my title. And it doesn't really matter what you think, because my commission, signed by the Governor, appoints me as a "Commissioner of Deeds" and not a "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds".

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F.S. 721.96: "The purpose of this part is to provide for the appointment of commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments ..."

F.S. 721.97(1): "The Governor may appoint commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments [...] Commissioners of deeds shall have authority to take acknowledgments [...]"

F.S. 721.97(2): "Any person seeking to be appointed a commissioner of deeds must take and subscribe to an oath [...]"

F.S. 695.03(3): "If the acknowledgment, legalization, authentication, or proof is made in a foreign country, it may be made before a commissioner of deeds appointed by the Governor of this state to act in such country..."


*******************************

Cari, I don't understand what your beef is. I don't know why it annoys you that the word "timeshare" is not present in my official title. I don't know if it is a jealousy issue, but if it is, there is nothing stopping YOU from also becoming a Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida or the State of New Hampshire. Go for it.

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 7:47pm
Msg #338897

Re: per the statute...TITLE XL. REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY

***there is nothing stopping YOU from also becoming a Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida or the State of New Hampshire.***

So there you have it, Cari. You also might want to explore becoming a Utah Commissioner of Mattress Ticking, Puerto Rico Inspector of Remanufactured Toilet Brushes, Member of the California Directorate of Sushi Wrap Recycling, or a Georgia Licensed Bullfrog Sexer.

The horizons are endless.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/28/10 10:37pm
Msg #338937

not annoyed, and I'm always looking for ways to make $$...

remember when I asked you in message #338407, if you recouped the fee you paid for the cod commission, you said no. So with that went my dreams of making any money with that type of commission...

But getting back to the dead horse....I've taken the opportunity to insert the text you cleverly omitted from the statutes you quoted below, they're in [ ].

Commissioner of Deeds IS a Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds. Why can't you see that? Is it because you just too young and stupid? Or is it that you are just sooo desperate to be recognized as a 'big boy' that you have to line yourself up with mundane, generic titles on your resume and website? What ever it is, get over it and be happy with who you are.

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"F.S. 721.96: The purpose of this part is to provide for the appointment of commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments ..." [proofs of execution, and oaths outside the United States in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other agreement, instrument or writing concerning, relating to, or to be used or recorded in connection with a TIMESHARE estate, personal property TIMESHARE interest, TIMESHARE license, any property subject to a TIMESHARE plan, or the operation of a TIMESHARE plan located within this state.]

"F.S. 721.97(1): "The Governor may appoint commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments..."; "Commissioners of deeds shall have authority to take acknowledgments" [proofs of execution, and oaths in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other writing to be used or recorded in connection with a TIMESHARE estate, personal property TIMESHARE interest, TIMESHARE license, any property subject to a TIMESHARE plan, or the operation of a TIMESHARE plan located within this state; provided such instrument or writing is executed outside the United States.]

695.03(03) deals with the same type of documents as listed above, but done in a foreign country. And it still deals only with docs relating to TIMESHARE properties, estates, plans, license, etc., involving Florida property.

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My beef is that you DO mislead the general public by omitting certain facts & truths from that COD title of yours, not only on your wedding website, but on your resume. By omitting the TIMESHARE part of your title, you are not telling the whole truth about your COD commission. And are luring in potential clients under false pretenses that you have more state authority in that title, that you really do.

Now, on to the next dead horse to beat...

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/29/10 5:32am
Msg #338948

Cari - you make absolutely NO sense

If the legislature of Florida felt that I needed to use the word "Timeshare" before my title, it would have been established by law. Nowhere - I repeat, NOWHERE - on my commission is the word "Timeshare" used. I have been appointed "Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas", and if that is the name on my commission hand-signed by the Governor than I sure as heck am allowed to use that title without the word "Timeshare" in front of it.

So, using the statutes you quoted, I suppose that I should always introduce myself as:

"Hi, I'm Robert, and I am a Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas who can take acknowledgments in connection with a timeshare estate".

Cari, get your head out of your butt. Maybe I should stop calling myself a Notary Public because that is misleading to those who think that a notary can draft documents and give legal advice. Maybe to clarify, I should introduce myself as a "Notary Public in and for the State of Florida who can take acknowledgments of deeds and other instruments of writing for record".

Yes, a Commissioner of Deeds in Florida is a Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds - but the word "timeshare" is not a part of the title in any way, and I am under no obligation to use it - and, P.S., *NO OTHER* commissioners use the word "Timeshare" as part of their official seal. Even though all the stamp manufacturers have a pretty round stamp that says "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds" - why don't you take a look at some of the mortgages recorded in Orange County by Marriott Vacation Club, and see what the COD stamps being used actually look like. I already told you about this in my last PM to you. They say "Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida" with no mention of the word "Timeshare" - why, you say? Because THE WORD TIMESHARE IS NOT PART OF OUR TITLE. If it was, it would be listed on our commission.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/29/10 5:33am
Msg #338949

and F.S. 695.03(3) has nothing to do with timeshares n/m

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/29/10 2:29pm
Msg #339000

Robert, have a great memorial day weekend!

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/29/10 5:38am
Msg #338950

AND...

Now I'm a Commissioner of Deeds for the State of New Hampshire. Nothing to do with timeshares whatsoever. So I'm still a Commissioner of Deeds. Get over it already.

You say I'm misleading the public because I use the title given to me by the Governor. So be it. I *AM* a Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas. I am *NOT* a "Timeshare Commissioner of Deeds".

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/29/10 5:54am
Msg #338951

And maybe I should refer to myself as a "common-law notary"

from now on, so as not to mislead the public.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/30/10 5:33pm
Msg #339113

common law clown would be best.... n/m

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/30/10 8:17pm
Msg #339132

Common law slut would be best for you :-) n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 5/30/10 8:28pm
Msg #339135

Over the top Robert - killl them with kindness. Much better. n/m

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/30/10 8:38pm
Msg #339137

That response is despicable, even for you Robert! n/m

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/30/10 8:52pm
Msg #339138

Re: Common law slut would be best for you :-)

That's so far over the line, Robert, that it's in a whole new dimension. Just as a rule of thumb, anytime you're trying to put someone down, you are best advised to avoid any sexual references at all. They are far too charged.

The name-calling on Cari's part was unnecessary and uncalled for. But reaction will not be to HER name-calling. It will be to yours.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/30/10 10:20pm
Msg #339152

I thought it was playful banter...since he called himself a

name...I figured why not just add to his list of names to call himself....

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/30/10 10:21pm
Msg #339153

I'm not going to walk on eggshells on this board

Cari has harassed me with private messages over the last few days and I am sick and tired of her demeaning comments. One can only take so much before snapping. And of course you see below she is saying I must be confusing her with one of my "boyfriends"? I don't know if that is supposed to be some insinuation that I live an alternative lifestyle but it is just further proof that Cari obviously knows nothing about me.

I don't really care what Cari or anyone else thinks about me. All of my clients are 150% pleased with my services, so I have no need to market myself to anyone here. Every time I turn my head another person is accusing me of UPL, or of misleading the public, or of acting in some improper manner. I am well aware that everyone on this board is out to get me.

Cari is allowed to insult me on a daily basis, but the first time I snap at her it is my fault? I'm not going to "kill her with kindness", she is killing me with her b*tchiness and I am not going to sit back and let it continue. If that means I get banned by NR so be it. Believe it or not I *do* have a life outside of this board and NR probably gets too much of my attention as it is.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/30/10 11:03pm
Msg #339157

Re: I'm not going to walk on eggshells on this board

no you don't have to walk on eggshells, just WALK AWAY from this forum. Speaking only for some, you won't be missed.

And anyone that would like to read all of the posts made between Robert and myself, send me an email, I will be more than willing to share these where you can judge for yourself if I was harassing him.

Robert you always start with the personal attacks whenever anyone challenges you on this forum. And when proven wrong, YOU are the one with the name calling. Your accusations of harrassment are just seriously ridiculous.

Besides, I'd be more worried about misleading the general public...."....the COD designation is something that I believes give me additional credibility/qualifications."

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/30/10 11:27pm
Msg #339159

What nonsense

***I am well aware that everyone on this board is out to get me.***

That's crap, Robert. If everyone on this board is out to get you, then why the hell do you post here? Your presence is pointless.

If you are going to act like a petulant child, you'll be treated like and regarded as a petulant child. If you are going to act like a jerk, you'll be treated like and regarded as a jerk. Right now you are acting like a childish jerk.

Calling someone so defamatory as "slut" is way out of line. If you are incapable of seeing that, then you are completely out of your league in any congregation of professionals. It's time for you to shut up, man up, acknowledge that you should not have done so, and assure that you won't do so in the future. Without that, I personally will have no further interest in any of your postings. I just place no value in the musings of anyone with that little judgment and professionalism.

Everybody makes mistakes, me more than most. You need to own this one.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/31/10 6:19am
Msg #339162

Re: What nonsense

If you think I'm going to put my tail between my legs and apologize while Cari sits and smirks as if to say "I told you so", sorry, but, it won't happen.

I'm done here.

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/31/10 8:34am
Msg #339167

Re: I'm not going to walk on eggshells on this board

if someone is harassing you with private messages then you can block them.

" I don't know if that is supposed to be some insinuation that I live an alternative lifestyle but it is just further proof that Cari obviously knows nothing about me"

And what about your insinuation that Cari is a slut?
There is a line on what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. You crossed the line.

I don't believe that everyone on this board is out to get you (gosh, that sounds like playground talk!)

Members here would be more ready to accept you if you didn't come across the way you do.
I am sure that somewhere inside you is a nice young man. But you have painted yourself as a pompous know it all, and that does not sit well with many members on this board.
Lose the arrogance and you would be more welcomed.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/30/10 10:13pm
Msg #339150

you must be confusing me with your boyfriends! LOL :) n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 5/31/10 9:32am
Msg #339172

Yeah...this is going more than just a step too far..

You're out of control now....think it's time to step away

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 5/31/10 9:45am
Msg #339173

Placed wrong...this to Robert.... n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 5/31/10 1:24pm
Msg #339214

Just tacking on to respond to Robert, et al...

not intended to reply to Linda.

I've wasted a lot of time this morning trying to come up with a response on this. Finally, I think I have one I can live with.

I have purposefully stayed out of the Robert situation the last year since he started posting.

I do not agree with Robert using the s-word on this forum. Bad decision.

I also don't think he should have been called a clown and I never think that it's okay to infer that a person is gay (however it is put) as a put down...which is what it was. That's not fair to the person, or the gay community. When used that way it implies that there is something wrong with being other than hetero. I really don't think that anyone on this forum really thinks that it was appropriate either, but only Hugh and Juls said something about it...which has been typical in the threads Robert is involved in. A lot of crap gets thrown his way and no one says a word until he responds...then it's all about him.

It was pretty easy for anyone to figure out how to push Robert's buttons and get him angry enough to respond in the manner he did. It was only a matter of time. That was clear from the start. Easy. Hardly any sport at all. But, it was pursued and pursued, then "Score!" It happened. But, *He* needs to stop? That's the answer to it? I think there is more to learn from this that that.

About Robert...I agree he's got a lot to learn about getting along with people on an internet forum, I have no idea about his day to day life, but I admire some of his qualities. Sometimes I think we lose sight of the forest for the trees. He's irritating people on this forum so no one has read between the lines to recognize some of the things he has done which are praiseworthy.

He's 20.
He has purchased a car and rents his own apartment. Did so by age 18.
He emancipated himself at age 17...and, why that was a desirable action, one can only imagine; I sympathize and wish I had thought of that when I was 17.
He pays his own way through school.
He works full-time and goes to school full-time.
He has a plan for his life. He intends to have his BA by 2012. He already has an AA.
He is a notary and finds it to be a very interesting part of his life. In fact, he's passionate about it...and that's what seems to get him in trouble on this board.

Robert, FWIW, at this point, your achievements are highly commendable. Many people would be thrilled to have that kind of drive, or to see it in their children. You are very self-reliant and your responsible nature is commendable, too. You are indeed an adult in many ways and very mature. Apply that maturity now to use this experience to increase your skin's thickness which is also part of maturity. Hugh's advice in his first post was pretty good. His second post was understandable given your response to him.

I would like to see you continue your postings here and I will gladly agree to disagree with you at any time without telling you that you are a clown, immature, misleading the public, UPL-ing, or suggesting that you are gay. (NOT that there is anything wrong with that!) I have noticed that both Marian and PAW have answered you this way, as well. They are two of the most knowledgeable people on the forum. I certainly have not answered you in a disparaging way. So, not everyone is against you.

I read this forum every day so I recognize that you are working in a law office and have access to legal opinions that others do not. I recognize that you can draft legal documents and then notarize them in that capacity and that is definitely NOT UPL in your situation. Just try to also recognize that such is not the scope of this forum's members so it's going to come up from time to time that you need to clarify your remarks. If you continue posting, you will learn to preface your remarks with something that makes it obvious that this is your position so people won't throw rotten tomatoes as soon as you hit the [SUBMIT] button saying that you are encouraging UPL.

I also think it would be nice at this point apologize to the forum for the pejorative, abstain from it in the future and move on ignoring the pejoratives that are thrown at you. I would consider it a personal favor to me if you would do that because I would like to see you become successful at your endeavors. I would like to see you continue to post here. If you don't get this out of the way, it will become a bone of contention from now on and reflect on your future as a notary in any media you are involved in here or otherwise. Like Hugh said--THAT's what will be remembered, not what preceded it. I would not like to see you become the memory of someone who everyone considered arrogant. I personally believe in your abilities and would like to encourage you. Do not worry who smirks. Smirkers smirk.

No one, not Robert, or anyone asked me for my opinion, but there it is. It was bothering me. Now, maybe that since I have gotten this off *my* chest, I can get on with the things I need to be doing today.

Reply by Cari on 2/3/11 9:02am
Msg #371327

because I'm snowed in with nothing better to do...here's to

beating dead horses! LOL...

"The title of the section is not important - the important thing is the actual text of the statutes."

The title of this section, which clearly states "721.97 Timeshare commissioner of deeds" is just as important as the actual text of the statutes Robert, since it clearly describes the the subject matter or contents of the section its referring to.

In fact, the entire statute reads:

"Title XL
REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY Chapter 721
VACATION AND TIMESHARE PLANS
PART IV COMMISSIONER OF DEEDS

721.96 Purpose.
—The purpose of this part is to provide for the appointment of commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths outside the United States in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other agreement, instrument or writing concerning, relating to, or to be used or recorded in connection with a timeshare estate, personal property timeshare interest, timeshare license, any property subject to a timeshare plan, or the operation of a timeshare plan located within this state.

721.97 Timeshare commissioner of deeds.
—(1)The Governor may appoint commissioners of deeds to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, or oaths in any foreign country, in international waters, or in any possession, territory, or commonwealth of the United States outside the 50 states. The term of office is 4 years. Commissioners of deeds shall have authority to take acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths in connection with the execution of any deed, mortgage, deed of trust, contract, power of attorney, or any other writing to be used or recorded in connection with a timeshare estate, personal property timeshare interest, timeshare license, any property subject to a timeshare plan, or the operation of a timeshare plan located within this state; provided such instrument or writing is executed outside the United States. Such acknowledgments, proofs of execution, and oaths must be taken or made in the manner directed by the laws of this state, including but not limited to s. 117.05(4), (5)(a), and (6), Florida Statutes 1997, and certified by a commissioner of deeds. The certification must be endorsed on or annexed to the instrument or writing aforesaid and has the same effect as if made or taken by a notary public licensed in this state.

(2) Any person seeking to be appointed a commissioner of deeds must take and subscribe to an oath, before a notary public in this state or any other state, or a person authorized to take oaths in another country, to well and faithfully execute and perform the duties of such commissioner of deeds. The oath must be filed with the Department of State prior to the person being commissioned.

(3) Official acts performed by any previously appointed commissioners of deeds, between May 30, 1997, and the effective date of this part, are declared valid as though such official acts were performed in accordance with and under the authority of this part.

721.98 Powers of the division.
—The division has no duty or authority to regulate, enforce, or ensure compliance with any provision of this part."

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NO WHERE else, in the state of Florida statutes does it mention any OTHER purpose for a "commissioner of deeds". Therefore, a COD in Florida, is ONLY in conjunction with Timeshare properties located in the state of Florida.

Though your official title on your certificate may be read COD for the state of FL or whatever, all that it really means is that you're a glorified notary public, specifically recognized by the state of FL as a COD for Timeshare relatd properties...nothing special there really since the duties of a regular notary public are the same...useless title. IMO, same goes for the State of NH...even though their COD's have nothing to do with Timeshares for the state.

In fact, according to "NH RSA 455 - POWERS OF A COMMISSIONER OF DEEDS

Every Commissioner of Deeds shall have the power to:

Administer oaths, both in and out of New Hampshire for documents that will be used in New Hampshire;

Take depositions and affidavits to be used in New Hampshire;

Take acknowledgement of deeds or instruments to be used or recorded in New Hampshire in the same manner and with the same effect as a justice of the peace has in New Hampshire. "

...again, another glorified notary public title that serves no other purpose but to perhaps look impressive on a nice big framed certificate in one's office, which you are always so willing to purchase!

So that's about it with this...

Reply by Cari on 2/3/11 10:29am
Msg #371338

AG'S response to a question...regarding COD residency...

"Number: AGO 84-53
Date: May 30, 1984
Subject: Commissioner of deeds/ residence


The Honorable Wayne Mixson
Lieutenant Governor
Secretary
Department of Commerce
Collins Building
Tallahassee, Florida 32301

Attention: Ms. Amelia Rea Maguire
Assistant Secretary

Dear Secretary Mixson:

This is in response to your department's request for an opinion on the following question:

DOES THE LANGUAGE OF FLORIDA STATUTE s 695.03(3) REQUIRE THAT A COMMISSIONER OF DEEDS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 118, FLORIDA STATUTES, ACTUALLY RESIDE IN THE FOREIGN COUNTRY WHERE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO AN INSTRUMENT REGARDING REAL PROPERTY IS TAKEN?

to read the full response/letter, visit

http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/A40D6E7C0E1802AE85256583006672D3

...here's the AG's conclusion....

..."Therefore, until such time as it is judicially determined otherwise, I am constrained to conclude that the terms of ss 695.01 and 695.03(3), F.S., require that a Commissioner of Deeds, appointed and commissioned by the Governor of this state in and for a foreign country pursuant to Ch. 118, F.S., actually reside in the foreign country where an acknowledgment of an instrument concerning real property located in Florida is to be taken by such commissioner.

Sincerely,

Jim Smith
Attorney General

Prepared by:

Craig Willis
Assistant Attorney General"

further proof that the COD commission/duties are considered basically useless unless you actually LIVE in the foreign country you were commissioned in, as in your case the Bahamas.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 5/28/10 7:35pm
Msg #338894

Re: not that I want to beat this dead horse over again, BUT

"Thus, I have no need to place the word "timeshare" in front of my title for any purpose whatsoever."

Other than to be honest about what the title actually means.

Although I do have to give you credit for thinking like a lawyer...

If you seriously think that having stuff like that on your resume is going to impress a potential employer, you're in for a rude awakening. Employers are not impressed by titles, especially those they're not familiar with. Focus on your experience and what that can do to help them rather than trying to puff yourself up with meaningless titles - because if they don't know what the title or designation means and they have any interest in you at all, they WILL find out.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 7:41pm
Msg #338895

Re: not that I want to beat this dead horse over again, BUT

I don't need to mention titles on my resume for potential employers. But as a general notary, I think members of the public will be generally more impressed with someone who is both a notary and a commissioner of deeds, even if they don't know what a COD is or does, than someone who is only a notary.

Keep in mind that, although I have a full time job, I also do significant notary business on the side, and the COD designation is something that I believes give me additional credibility/qualifications.

Reply by jba/fl on 5/28/10 9:08pm
Msg #338910

Re: not that I want to beat this dead horse over again, BUT

COD - fish or cash on delivery. That is what it means to the general public.
NNA - haven't a clue
SA or NSA - still have no clue

These are not things that make the general public sit up and take notice. They don't really care. Really.

Can you notarize my papers = that they ask and understand and want done.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 9:27pm
Msg #338920

True, but I was talking more about my wedding business

And brides-to-be do a LOT of research into different wedding officiants before choosing one, so my resume *NEEDS* to impress them for me to make money in this business.

Reply by jba/fl on 5/28/10 9:32pm
Msg #338925

Re: True, but I was talking more about my wedding business

I think what one offers in services would be of more interest than initials....after all, they will be using their own initials on their linens and things.

Vow assortments, venue assortments, add ons such as music, doves, butterflies, etc. Sunrise or sunset specials, sky diving or zip lines, underwater or under waterfalls - the list goes on. Imagination is a great thing - unique is memorable. Personalized touches.....

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 9:41pm
Msg #338928

LOL I don't use "COD" as a post-nominal suffix n/m

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 1:52pm
Msg #338817

Re: I was asking an honest question

***If I get beat up it is not because of me, it's because you feel some need to attack me.***

Well said, Robert. But do not consider yourself special. You are in a large company.

Calinotary still suffers from the effects of not being his mother's favorite -- and he's an only child.

Reply by MW/VA on 5/28/10 2:23pm
Msg #338827

Re: I was asking an honest question

Where do you get this stuff? From Psych 101? IMO, if you get beat up it's because you set yourself up for it by trying to dominate the forum with your agenda.

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 3:01pm
Msg #338841

Re: I was asking an honest question

Be aware, Robert, that Marilyn is the self-appointed arbiter of both appropriate content and appropriate relationships on this and the other two NotRot fori. And she does indeed provide a good yardstick for what should be posted: Just post exactly the opposite of what she deplores, and you'll be pretty safe.

Or, in the alternative, just let her stew in her own bilious juices and post what you, as a professional notary public, think is appropriate on a forum that serves professional notaries public. Presumably, as a notary public herself, she can read, and if your offerings disturb her digestion she can simply skip those theads in which she notes that you appear, thus assuring that both her dinner and this forum rest easy.

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 3:03pm
Msg #338842

Amen to that n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 5/28/10 4:45pm
Msg #338856

LOL--I always find His Hughness' venonmous vocabulary

pretty amusing.

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 5:12pm
Msg #338857

Re: LOL--I always find His Hughness' venonmous vocabulary

***I always find His Hughness' venonmous vocabulary pretty amusing***

Thanks for the plaudit. When responding to people who go out of their way to be critical and/or abusive, I try to do so with a little panache. I find it far better than bludgeoning other posters with terms like "self-appointed expert at everything."

Reply by MW/VA on 5/28/10 5:16pm
Msg #338859

Re: LOL--I always find His Hughness' venonmous vocabulary

And, of course, we know from experience that you are never critical or abusive. LOL

Reply by Robert/FL on 5/28/10 5:22pm
Msg #338861

Give it up MW

Had the original post been made by any other person in the world, you wouldn't have felt the need to resort to personal attacks. It is really getting old.

Reply by MW/VA on 5/28/10 5:31pm
Msg #338866

I stand by my statement--it was 100% truthful. n/m

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 5/28/10 6:24pm
Msg #338882

Re: I stand by my statement--it was 100% truthful.

***I stand by my statement--it was 100% truthful***

Whether it was 100% truthful or not -- and that is certainly open for dispute -- it unquestionably was 100% unnecessary.

Having noted before the nature of your selectiveness for those whom you choose to abuse, I think Robert is eminently correct. The same post from one of your "buddies" would have elicited either support or silence, certainly not such classless condemnation.

He posted a question. It was a question that pertained to the professon this forum serves. The idea behind the question may have been inane -- as I noted in the very first response to his post -- but the question was legitimate. If you didn't want to answer the question, Marilyn, all you had to do was get on down the road. There was absolutely no need to spit in the guy's face.

Show a little class.

Reply by MW/VA on 5/29/10 10:00am
Msg #338971

True, Hugh, but his statement, "and FYI I am not just a

notary, I'm a notary extraordinare" struck a nerve. Even PAW has offered him advice about his attitude here. I don't normally waste my time on such folly & should have let this one, like all the others, slide.

Reply by jba/fl on 5/29/10 11:33am
Msg #338976

Re: True, Hugh, but his statement, "and FYI I am not just a

" I'm a notary extraordinare" struck a nerve."

Why? We all puff to some degree - look at some of the monikers people give themselves: XXXarea's Best, #1 Notary, AAA Notary. Can it really be true that there are that many #1's and/or Best's? Just yesterday I said I was divine - no on jumped in and questioned or attacked that. Why not?

I am the best - don't forget it! I am #1 - all the rest are JK. Would I tell a lie? Why or why not Even those who tout flawless service stumble from time to time, albeit less than those who don't say so?

Are you going to buy the 3/2 house on main street or the 3 large bedrooms, 2 full baths on a fully landscaped charming street?

Puff, puff, puff - then I'll blow your house down. Are you wanting to be the big bad wolf?

Now, let's see how many will come on here to say that I am not #1 and they are?!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 5/29/10 12:50pm
Msg #338990

Re: True, Hugh, but his statement, "and FYI I am not just a

"I said I was divine - no on jumped in and questioned or attacked that. Why not"

because one cannot argue with the truth:)

Reply by jba/fl on 5/29/10 4:08pm
Msg #339008

Awww....(blush) n/m

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 5/28/10 5:50pm
Msg #338875

isn't that a class that all attorneys must take?! LOL n/m

Reply by rengel/CA on 5/28/10 3:19pm
Msg #338846

At first blush, my answer is a resounding NO. I know in California it would not be a good idea due to the fact that folks from Mexico have a tendency to think that American Notaries can practice law since in Mexico a Notario can.

We can't advertise as Notario's due to that.

I sure wouldn't want the appearance of trying to make the public think that I was practicing law, whether in California, Florida or any other state of the union. I really don't want my State Bar to come a callin. Do you????

My .02