Posted by HisHughness on 11/15/10 1:31am Msg #361360
Query
Does anyone have any experience with the Notary Law Institute? If so, could you give some account of it, please?
Have any of the experienced signing agents encountered the preceding organization's publication, "Notary Law, Procedures & Ethics," and, if so, what did you think of it?
Have any of the experienced signing agents run across Peter Van Alstyne of the NLI? He is billed as "America's leading authority on notary law and procedure." Also, he supposedly wrote two "nationally acclaimed" notary reference books. Strange: When I googled him, the first three pages of hits did not recognize he even existed, at least in the notary world we inhabit, so I don't know who nationally so acclaimed him.
Those who would would gladly see the staff at the National Notary Association all afflicted with painful, loathsome boils will appreciate, however, that in 1989 the NNA gave him its "prestigious" (the institute's description, not mine) National Notary Achievement Award. Then he went out and founded the competing Notary Law Institute -- and uses the award to add credibility to the institute's website.
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Reply by FlaNotary2 on 11/15/10 4:50am Msg #361366
Yes, I used to be a member
In their last newsletter, they said that it was OK to notarize blank documents because we only ae concerned with signatures. They also said it was OK for notaries to issue certified copies of birth certificates issued in other states. (Yes, seriously.)
When I called them out on this, they said their "legal team" looked into it and found the above information to be correct. I pointed out to him that Florida Statutes actually prohibited a notary from notarizing a document which is incomplete or blank. They refused to budge. I told them to immediately delete my membership and stop sending me newsletters. They had the nerve to send me a renewal notice a month later.
IMO - the NNA is a better organization than NLI. The NNA is not perfect, and they certainly have been known to give out incorrect information, but they would never give out information so blatantly incorrect like telling notaries its OK to certify birth certificates from other states.
And the NLI's bond package for my state was like $40 more than the NNA's package.
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Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 11/15/10 9:37am Msg #361379
no, the XYZ DOES give out incorrect information such as
"when the state laws and official fules for notarization are silent or lacking, Agents must follow all widely adopted best notary practices and standards as espoused in the "The Notary Public Code of Professional Responsibility"
what a bunch of crap...
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