Posted by Michele Alcala on 10/11/10 1:58pm
Msg #356296

birth certificate for minor with no id

How do you notarize a birth certificate with no id? I have never had to do a notary with witnesses. Would you use 2 people with id? and can they be related?

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 10/11/10 2:11pm
Msg #356298

You can't notarize a birth certificate. n/m

Reply by Donna McDaniel on 10/11/10 2:16pm
Msg #356303

Re: You can't notarize a birth certificate.

I'm guessing, but perhaps what they need is a 'certified' copy of a birth certificate. If so, that is a public record and they will need to get one at the county clerk's office. We cannot notarize a copy of a public record. Also, please don't "do a notary", unless your spouse is also one. We "notarize" docs.

Reply by Donna McDaniel on 10/11/10 2:17pm
Msg #356304

notarize signatures on docs, meant to say. n/m

Reply by Hugh Nations Signing Agents of Austin on 10/11/10 2:26pm
Msg #356306

Re: You can't notarize a birth certificate.

***Also, please don't "do a notary", unless your spouse is also one.***

Hmmm...my girlfriend is a notary, we're unmarried, and I think you just blew the hell out of our sex life.

Of course, at 73, it didn't take very much.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 10/11/10 2:14pm
Msg #356300

And you don't "do a notary" either n/m

Reply by Cody on 10/11/10 2:38pm
Msg #356307

Re: And you don't "do a notary" either

i disagree, you can do a notary if you want to....and they want you too...

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 10/11/10 3:09pm
Msg #356309

You have to be an adult to become a Norary. Getting one to

consent is the tough part.

Reply by Les_CO on 10/11/10 3:33pm
Msg #356311

Re: You have to be an adult to become a Norary. Getting one to

Only in your, and my case Bob, for others it’s easy…Are you still posting Brad Pitt’s photo?

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 10/11/10 4:07pm
Msg #356317

Are you still posting Brad Pitt’s photo?

Actually, I think that I am getting to be better looking than he is.
All of the wives, girlfrinds , kids and drama are staring to take their toll.

Reply by MW/VA on 10/11/10 3:38pm
Msg #356312

LOL. That opens a whole new chapter on discussing fees. LOL n/m

Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 10/11/10 3:49pm
Msg #356315

Class in session

Obviously, most of the responders didn't get you-know-what out of their systems over the weekends, so back to your questions:

"How do you notarize a birth certificate with no id? I have never had to do a notary with witnesses. Would you use 2 people with id? and can they be related? "

First of all, are you a commissioned CA notary? Your questions are so bizarre it would appear you are asking for someone else. However, just in case .... CA notaries do not notarize birth certificates or any other vital record. We notarize signatures. Where's the signature you are supposed to notarize? Have you been presented a document by someone personally appearing before you? Look for their signature line on that document.

Second, CA is not a witness state - however, the occasional document may have lines for witness signatures, but that's generally upon the direction of an attorney. As far as I know, there are no laws regarding family relationships between/among witnesses. And generally, no, we don't have to ID witnesses because we are not notarizing their signatures. An attorney, however, might want you to ID them. However, if you are talking about credibile identifying witnesses (people who would take an oath identifying a person who has no acceptable ID), then, yes, we need to ID them and get their signatures in our journal ...

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/11/10 4:38pm
Msg #356320

Nope... she's a notary.... See zip code 92374 (Redlands) n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/11/10 4:44pm
Msg #356321

Joan Bergstrom's zip...:) n/m

Reply by Stoli on 10/11/10 9:09pm
Msg #356349

Marian- she's a notary.... See zip code 92374 (Redlands)

How did you come up with this info? The profile is blocked?

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/11/10 11:24pm
Msg #356378

It's not blocked for me...

Are you logged in when you search? She's not a premiere member... you have to scroll down a bit.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/12/10 8:32am
Msg #356388

Marian, I think she means name's not "linked" n/m

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/12/10 10:57am
Msg #356413

Oh! Silly me. I just used my ninja Google skills is all. n/m

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 10/11/10 3:48pm
Msg #356314

Michele,

Both subjects are covered in the handbook and are very basic.

Certified public records, including birth certificates, are obtained at the county recorders office where the document is recorded. There are rare circumstances where an out of state or out of country birth is recorded in the local county of residence, as in the case of active duty military or people who are vacationing overseas and are legal residents of another state. If it is a long distance from where the people that need it are living, then they can do it by mail. The form can usually be obtained online from the county in question's website or they may have to call to get the form. They fill it out, sign it. That is the signature that requires a notarization.

Witnesses are covered in detail beginning on page 8. I could tell you, but I don't think you would learn anything. You really need to study it. And I mean the entire handbook. Not being mean to you, just a little "tough love".

And to get my 2 cents worth in, as stated, you don't "do a notary." Also we don't notarize documents, either. We notarize the signatures on documents and verify id.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/11/10 4:35pm
Msg #356319

Michele...... oh, Michele....

First of all... you CANNOT notarize a birth certificate, nor can you certify a copy of one. It's state law. This is stated on page 16 or our current handbook:

"Certified copies of birth, fetal death, death, and marriage records may be made only by the
State Registrar, by duly appointed and acting local registrars during their term of office, and
by county recorders. (Health & Safety Code section 103545)"

Second -- you don't "do a notary". YOU are the notary. You "do" a notarization or notarial act.

Third -- if you need to use credible witnesses, there are specific guidelines for doing so. You need to read pages 8-9 of the handbook to review methods of identification.


Seriously... and I mean this with the best of intentions because I don't want you to do anything that could get you in trouble with the Secretary of State.... you probably need to stop notarizing until you review the handbook better. It's really for your own protection.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/notary/forms/notary-handbook-2010.pdf

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 10/11/10 4:49pm
Msg #356322

I have enough trouble with IL law, but am just wondering

if OP was asking about using a Birth Certificate AS an ID. That , of course, is
a whole different can of worms.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/11/10 4:56pm
Msg #356323

Re: I have enough trouble with IL law, but am just wondering

Well, she said, "How do you notarize a birth certificate with no id?"

The answer is... you don't, not even with ID.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 10/12/10 9:54am
Msg #356397

Michelle....¡es confundido gravemente! n/m