Posted by Donald Sloan on 4/17/11 9:40am
Msg #380133

Easter

I am sorry I forgot to wish all thoes who believe a very Happy Easter!!!

Reply by HisHughness on 4/17/11 10:46am
Msg #380141

***I am sorry I forgot to wish all thoes who believe a very Happy Easter!!!***

So, does that mean that you're hoping I have a really sorry Easter? I tremble to think what you're wishing on me for Christmas. Nonetheless, Donald, you have a vibrant and joyous May Day.

You do realize Easter is not until <next> Sunday, don't you?

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 4/17/11 10:52am
Msg #380142

This thread belongs in Leisure. n/m

Reply by HisHughness on 4/17/11 11:08am
Msg #380143

Re: This thread belongs in Leisure.

Get serious, Shoshana; he was just wishing everyone a happy holiday. Holidays are part of the working world, so there shouldn't be anything wrong with acknowledging them here.

However, if you feel <really> strongly about it, you can join us non-believers in having a miserable Easter.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 4/17/11 12:41pm
Msg #380146

Re: This thread belongs in Leisure.

I am not a non-believer. In my religion, Easter is not celebrated.

Reply by 101livescan on 4/17/11 11:40am
Msg #380144

It's already for a lovely Easter week, starting this weekend and then with Good Friday, it will be a short short work week for me, a great time to plant and revere our wonderful weather, life's blessings and time with loved ones, as well as to celebrate The Event. Thank you for your wishes!

Reply by Sandra Clark on 4/17/11 1:12pm
Msg #380149

Well said 101, and prayers for tolerance by those who don't celebrate Easter.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 4/17/11 1:19pm
Msg #380150

It may come as a shock to you, Ms. Clark....

But there are other religions in this world. Certainly, why would you think anyone would be intolerant of YOUR EASTER celebration?

Reply by Sandra Clark on 4/17/11 1:28pm
Msg #380153

Re: It may come as a shock to you, Ms. Clark....

I'm certainly aware of the many religions celebrated world-wide, but your comments about well wishes for Easter belonging in leisure is ridiculous. I'm not Irish but I wish my Irish friends Happy St Paticks Day. What's the difference? Is that leisure also or just an acknowledgment of a special day in someone else's life that celebrates it?

Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 4/17/11 1:32pm
Msg #380154

Very uncalled for, Sandra

Reply by Sandra Clark on 4/17/11 2:04pm
Msg #380159

What's uncalled for? My compliment to 101, my prayer that someone would be tolerant enough to allow those of us who do celebrate Easter be able to do so and to pass those well-wishes on to one another here in our on-line community or that I wish my Irish friends Saint Patricks Day?

Reply by HisHughness on 4/17/11 1:43pm
Msg #380155

Wow! I never expected...

...a poster's Easter greetings to colleagues, and a jocular response thereto, to turn into some sort of religious donnybrook. So...let's use this as a teachable moment.

"Tolerance" means that you simply endure something, much like a zit on your nose that you wait out till it goes away. "Acceptance" means that you accord another the right to his own beliefs, or lack thereof. I don't think tolerance is what we are striving for here. What we are seeking is acceptance, collegiality, and an all-around warm glow that we can all enjoy.

Marilyn: I assume it was inadvertent that you included only Christians and Jews in the ambit of your well-wishes. There are also to be considered Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Scientologists, Shintoists, Jainists, Zoroastrians, pagans, non-believers and various and sundry other shades of belief.

And now, indeed, it seems to be time to move this to Leisure, as Shoshanna suggested, since it has gone well beyond wishing everybody a happy egg roll.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 4/17/11 8:09pm
Msg #380187

Hugh, I am tolerant of YOUR religious beliefs, or lack

thereof, but I do NOT accept them.

JMHO.

Reply by HisHughness on 4/17/11 8:29pm
Msg #380190

Re: Hugh, I am tolerant of YOUR religious beliefs, or lack

Doesn't matter, Robert. I am accepting, though cautious, of your narrow-mindedness. My observation is that when people are "tolerant" of others' beliefs, as soon as they get the opportunity to be intolerant -- i.e., the Manhattan mosque dustup -- that's what they become.

This no longer belongs on any forum in NotRot, which specifically asks that matters of religion not be a topic of discussion. I'm sorry I ever responded to the original posting; my intent was simply to be jocular. My apologies to all concerned.

Reply by MW/VA on 4/17/11 1:02pm
Msg #380148

Wishing everyone a blessed holy week, whether you celebrate Passover or Easter.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 4/17/11 1:21pm
Msg #380151

Thank you, Marilynn same to you!

Reply by Philip Johnson on 4/17/11 2:01pm
Msg #380157

The Middle East summed up on a notary forum very nicely n/m

Reply by Susan Fischer on 4/17/11 2:03pm
Msg #380158

Now, *that's* an uncalled-for crock, Philip. n/m

Reply by Philip Johnson on 4/17/11 2:07pm
Msg #380160

Wow that's harsh

Lets see we've got Christians, Jews assorted agnostics and un-believers all chiming in. Sounds like Jerusalem to me all wrapped up nicely in a notary forum.

Reply by Sandra Clark on 4/17/11 2:24pm
Msg #380162

Re: Wow that's harsh

Isn't it amazing how statements get missunderstood in an on-line chat room? Phil's remarks were simply about the tolerance or intolerance of religions in the Middle East and right away someone thinks they're slamming another Notary on the board - I think most of us knew what he was referring to

Reply by jba/fl on 4/17/11 4:14pm
Msg #380178

Re: Wow that's harsh

I can hardly wait until next week-end when the big event(s) take place....what kind of charititable comments will we have then? Will there be tolerance, acceptance, rancor, bitterness or well wishes to all and sundry?

Stay tuned....it will return.

Reply by NJDiva on 4/18/11 9:08am
Msg #380208

HAPPY HOLIDAY

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Reply by NJDiva on 4/18/11 9:11am
Msg #380209

oops-HAPPY HOLIDAYS if it applies...

Which is why I try not to give any specific Holiday well wish. I've said Merry Christmas too many times that have come back to me...

So I ALWAYS try to say, "If it applies, Happy Holidays, if not wishing much joy, happiness and prosperity."

Reply by MW/VA on 4/18/11 10:23am
Msg #380222

Sad state of affairs in this country that we can't send

holiday wishes without offending some group (political correctness). It seems ok to attack anyone for any reason, though. Profanity, crime, & violence seem to be the new order. And don't tell me to take it over to JP, either.

Reply by NJDiva on 4/18/11 10:55am
Msg #380237

Re: Sad state of affairs in this country that we can't send

Far be it for me to be controversial, but not for nothing, I do believe this country was founded on Christianity.

Reply by NJDiva on 4/18/11 10:56am
Msg #380239

Re: Sad state of affairs in this country that we can't send

But again, I have no affiliation with organized religion and therefore it doesn't affect me what holiday people want to be addressed to.

Happy Holidays or well wishes for a great life covers it all.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 4/18/11 10:37pm
Msg #380362

Re: Sad state of affairs in this country that we can't send

I'm going to add in my 2 cents (even though I was gonna stay out of this one), and this is as good a place as any.

First of all, I don't see anything wrong with posting good wishes for Easter (or any other holiday) to people here or anywhere else. Unfortunately, but hopefully with the best of intentions, Mr. Sloan chose to word his good wishes in a way that could be interpreted to exclude some people - and clearly some felt excluded (and for multiple reasons).

Once feathers get ruffled, then other statements become more and more likely to be interpreted in the most negative way, or taken personally. And, of course, that calls for a response, as well, right? And the next thing you know, we go from talking about people being a little bit too politically correct to this: "It seems ok to attack anyone for any reason, though. Profanity, crime, & violence seem to be the new order."

Let me just say that I, for one, don't think it's OK to attack anyone for any reason, and I suspect that nearly everyone on this board would agree with that statement. (I certainly hope so!) And I'm at a loss for how this whole conversation leads to "profanity, crime and violence", but I guess it can, if people don't stop and think about what they're saying and doing and just give a knee-jerk reaction to what someone else says or does.

Finally, if we take a step back and look at this, I think Phillip has a point. On a very,very small scale, this could be seen as an illustration of what is going on in the Middle East - that is if you believe that most of the trouble there comes from people thinking the worst of others and reacting to what they expect from people who are different, rather than trying to understand each other. A lack of "tolerance" perhaps?

One more thing: while profanity, crime and violence certainly exist, I choose to not accept them as "the new order"... I may not be able to do much about it, but I can at least try to be part of the solution vs. part of the problem. Besides, I don't know about anyone else, but I rarely - if ever - encounter any of those things in my daily life, partly because of choices I make (like turning off the daily news... )

Reply by Stephanie_CA on 4/18/11 3:19pm
Msg #380282

Thank you, Donald Sloan!!!