Posted by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 3:46pm
Msg #405624

Campbell, CA/Opportuniy for newbies

I have a friend in Campbell, CA that owns a shop and is looking for a notary to work one day a week for her. It would be Monday from 11:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

Responsibilities would be to open and close the shop, handle all notarizations for walk-in customers and sort mail for approximately 18 PO Boxes.

Excellent opportunity for a fairly new notary to gain experience notarizing documents from all walks of life. She also has a wedding chapel and if interested, you can perform weddings for clients that come in with a marriage license from the county.

Please PM me or send me an email at [e-mail address] if interested.

Thank you

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 12/2/11 3:49pm
Msg #405625

Okay.I asked over yonder..gonna ask here too

Notaries can do weddings in CA?

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:08pm
Msg #405626

CA has a confidential marriage license which requires

notarization. Didn't know about performing a marriage. Howevrr, One can get a special one time license to officiate for a family member or friend.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:10pm
Msg #405627

Re: Okay.I asked over yonder..gonna ask here too

Hi Linda,

Good to hear from you. Notary/Minister can perform weddings and issue confidential marriage licenses. They have to attend a class at the county to become licensed. The next class is on December 14, 2011. This is by invite. The owner of this shop can get you the invite if interested.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:11pm
Msg #405628

Not you personally Linda. LOL n/m

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:14pm
Msg #405630

Shoshana

This lady has been issuing confidential marriage licenses and performing weddings for over 20 years, as a Notary/Minister.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:22pm
Msg #405633

Joan

Thanks for telling me that. I have performed weddings in CA as a Rabbi. I knew that those confidential licenses had to be notarized but wasn't sure if the notary could actually perform the weddings. Of course, it's easy enough to become a ULC minister.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:27pm
Msg #405637

Shoshana

You are precisely correct about the ULC. That is where she was ordained. I should correct myself though. She performs the weddings, types out the confidential marriage license form and notarizes it, then takes this form to the county to have THEM issue the marriage certificate.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:33pm
Msg #405640

Re: Shoshana

I knew a couple who lived in Laughlin, NV. They were ulc ministers and had a great setup. They rented out a room in the local motel which they used as a chapel. They had packages that included such things as a wedding cake, rentals of handcrafted silk flower bouquets, pictures with a disposable camera, etc. It was one stop shopping! At that time in NV, officiants could get marriage licenses in bulk! I don't know if they still do that. This was about 15-20 years ago.

Reply by HisHughness on 12/2/11 4:13pm
Msg #405629

Okay, you've got my attention

What is a confidential marriage license? Are you telling me that you can get married in California and keep it a secret? Can that be after the fact? There are a couple of exes I'd like to put under wraps.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:17pm
Msg #405631

Yes, Hugh

A confidential marriage license is for couples who are already living together. The marriage is not made public (many reasons for this). Only the couple, county and state have access to this record. You receive a Certified Copy of the marriage license back from the county. If you want another copy, only the married couple can gain access to it.

Reply by HisHughness on 12/2/11 4:20pm
Msg #405632

Re: Yes, Hugh

How droll. They don't mind openly "living in sin," but they object to openly getting married. What a strange, strange world we live in today.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 12/2/11 4:32pm
Msg #405639

Re: Yes, Hugh

My guess is that they've probably presented themselves to others as already married and may even have children together. So when they decide to make it "legal" they want to do so quietly. I've some across that issue a time or two when it comes to how title is held on a property.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:24pm
Msg #405634

Re: Yes, Hugh

I understand that it's particularly popular among law enforcement officers for security reasons.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:27pm
Msg #405638

Joan, I am confused.

Most couples whose weddings we officiated were already living together. Those are the times we live in. We only had one confiential license in all the years we did this.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:33pm
Msg #405641

Shoshana

Most of the weddings she officiates are confidential marriages. Some have the public license, but most want the confidential. Since she has walk in weddings for her chapel, I would say 90% of them are confidential. Sorry, don't understand your confusion.

If a couple walks in at 6:00 p.m. and absolutely wants to get married that day, there is no time for going to the county, which is closed at that time. The only way is to do the confidential marriage license. If they want to publicly advertise it after the fact, that's their choice. Most choose not to, especially if they've been together for 25 years, which is surprisingly a lot.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 4:36pm
Msg #405642

Re: Shoshana

Sorry. I thought you meant that only people who were living together could get confidential licenses.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 12/2/11 4:41pm
Msg #405645

CA Notaries CAN NOT perform weddings

If they notary also HAPPENS to be a minister, he or she may perform weddings as a minister, but can not use the title "Notary Public" in correlation with a wedding.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 4:49pm
Msg #405647

Correct Robert/See link below

The notary would also have to be a minister, rabbi, priest, etc. The notary notarizes the license and can perform the wedding if he/she is also a minister, etc.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/documents/marriage%20ceremony%20info.pdf

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 12/2/11 5:33pm
Msg #405651

It is my understanding that notaries who issue

confidential licenses have to undergo special training, and some counties don't even offer it.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 6:04pm
Msg #405655

Re: It is my understanding that notaries who issue

Correct again Robert. Santa Clara County does.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 6:10pm
Msg #405656

Are you the notary marriage police?

Or are you just trying to trip up Joan? I find your posts very annoying!
Joan has been a CA notary for many years. She knows the laws inside and out!

Reply by HisHughness on 12/2/11 6:30pm
Msg #405657

Re: Are you the notary marriage police?

Shosh, you may not like Robert. You may not like his posts. You may not like his syntax. You may not like his excessive nostril hair.

But he had two very valid points. Joan's posts had left me with the impression that California notaries could perform weddings, and without geographical limitations. He cleared both of those up.

If you're going to b!tch about another poster's comments, you ought to make sure your responses are grounded in something other than personal antipathy.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 6:49pm
Msg #405658

Re: Are you the notary marriage police?

There are no geographical limitaions except that the notary has to take the training in a county that offers it and that the couple must be married in the county where they obtained the confidential license.

Reply by NJDiva on 12/3/11 12:37am
Msg #405678

"you may not like Robert"

Robert makes it hard to like Robert sometimes, Hugh.

Starting from the top post and working your way down, it was cleared up and pretty obvious by the time Robert had commented as far as I read.

In fact, I think you were the first one to clear it up, Hugh.

But I will agree that it is now PERFECTLY clear.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 12/2/11 6:56pm
Msg #405659

Re: Are you the notary marriage police?

1. For that matter, since we are being honest here, I find your posts excessively annoying. Your profile says that you are ordained. Can I ask who ordained you? If you have attended a seminary school and earned an ordination - that is one thing. Getting a free "ordainment" through a website is a different story.

2. The OP was giving the impression that California notaries can perform weddings. They can not. Just because many notaries have chosen to become "ordained" so they can perform weddings does not mean that "notaries can perform weddings", and that is what was being inferred.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 12/2/11 7:06pm
Msg #405660

Rabbis do not get ordained for free!

I can assure of that! I studied and paid my dues!

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 7:31pm
Msg #405663

Apologies

Sorry if I gave the impression that notaries in California can perform marriages. Hopefully the link I provided above clears this up. You must be an ordained minister, rabbi, priest, etc. to perform the wedding. If the notary is a minister, they can perform the wedding and notarize the marriage license for a confidential marriage license to be issued by the county.

This post has gotten completely out of hand and is on the verge of going to Leisure or Just Politics. Hopefully all questions have now been answered.

The original post was for a notary to work one day a week. They would simply be notarizing. As far as how a person is ordained does not make them any less committed then another. Many couples want nondenominational ministers.

Anyone know of a fairly new notary, who needs a job one day a week?

Reply by HisHughness on 12/2/11 7:45pm
Msg #405664

Can't help with the notary/minister

But if you come up with an opening for a notary/short-order cook, keep me in mind.

Reply by JAM/CA on 12/2/11 7:51pm
Msg #405666

LOL Hugh. Thanks for lightening things up n/m

Reply by Moneyman/TX on 12/3/11 5:37am
Msg #405681

Re: Are you the notary marriage police?

Robert, had you read the other replies in the thread (as Diva pointed out Msg #405678 ) the questions you had were actually addressed prior. You have to remember that we do not have the ability to edit our posts and the only way to correct possible wrong impressions or incorrect information is to do so by adding to the thread.

I don't know if your intention with your original post in this thread was to help to bring attention to the obvious accidental incorrect impression of the OP (giving you the benefit of the doubt because it is not clear).

Again, it is very obvious that it was not intentional on Joan's part and she did clear it up (as well as part of your second question) prior to your first post. I think that is the reason Shoshana asked if you were trying to "trip up Joan".

IMO, you should have been as gracious to Shoshana as Joan was to you when she answered your posts. Your post Msg #405659 was, imo, unnecessary and uncalled for.

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 12/3/11 3:27pm
Msg #405693

Many, many years ago , I tried to convince a young lady

that a Hilton Hotel bellhop was authorized to perform a marriage valid for only one night.
She did not buy it.

Reply by HisHughness on 12/3/11 5:01pm
Msg #405695

Interesting

***Many, many years ago , I tried to convince a young lady that a Hilton Hotel bellhop was authorized to perform a marriage valid for only one night. She did not buy it. ***

Your wife tells me that she has wished many times over the past few years that she had had the option of a 24-hour marriage to you.