Posted by Paskeeter on 2/16/11 3:13pm
Msg #373020
Bob_Chicago
I haven't seen any of his witty postings lately...is he still on here?
| Reply by Paskeeter on 2/16/11 3:15pm
Msg #373022
nevermind...saw one from the 14th n/m
| Reply by oldhippie_IL on 2/16/11 3:15pm
Msg #373023
Gosh, you're right!! Bob, send us a jingle, or Judy and I will have to track you down!
| Reply by oldhippie_IL on 2/16/11 3:16pm
Msg #373024
Thank god! n/m
| Reply by Paskeeter on 2/16/11 3:21pm
Msg #373027
Re: Thank god!
He is usually all over here...hope it is loads of work keeping him busy!
| Reply by oldhippie_IL on 2/16/11 3:45pm
Msg #373034
Me too, cuz I haven't any! n/m
| Reply by Cari on 2/16/11 4:04pm
Msg #373036
Bonnie, take up a Spanish girl...lots of SS closings! ;) n/m
| Reply by John Schenk on 2/16/11 4:41pm
Msg #373045
And you'll be be able to cook enchiladas like crazy!!! n/m
| Reply by oldhippie_IL on 2/16/11 8:48pm
Msg #373059
Re: And you'll be be able to cook enchiladas like crazy!!!
Love enchiladas and the rest!! Cari, I may half too. I am getting calls, but, too far away!
| Reply by Cari on 2/17/11 5:26am
Msg #373082
HA John...I'm Puerto Rican, don't you know better than to
confuse the two races? HE HE...this is a joke btw...in Chicago and NY, its REALLY sort of taboo...folks have been known to knock out the person asking, "Do you speak the same Spanish as other Mexicans?"....we are all very proud of our own races, but some are just a bit more sensitive (me not so much...) but yeah dude, themz is fightin' words....  LOL
And I wish I knew how to make enchilades so gooood! But I can do a mean a$$ arroz con gandules, y chuleta frita....hmmmm....
I think I'll make that tonight!
| Reply by FlaNotary2 on 2/17/11 7:13am
Msg #373090
Re: HA John...I'm Puerto Rican, don't you know better than to
>>>we are all very proud of our own races<<<
Except Hispanic origins are not considered "races" in the United States.
http://www.census.gov/schools/pdf/2010form_info.pdf
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 8:12am
Msg #373094
Robert..look at question #5..yes they are n/m
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 8:13am
Msg #373095
Ugh...too quick...
And why did you even have to bring this up? Not necessary...
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 8:41am
Msg #373098
Okay..I take this back...possibly not based on the true
definition of "race"...
| Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 2/17/11 9:50am
Msg #373109
interesting Robert....
<<For this census, Hispanic origins are not races>>
Well that's the gov't for you...they want to know if we are either Mexican, Puerto Rican, etc, and use "origins" to sort us all out, instead of just doing the obvious, and adding either: Latino, Hispanic or Spanish to the Race category, like they have for the Asian race.
I don't consider myself to be part of the "White" race. In fact, if I had to choose, since I'm Puerto Rican & Cuban, and because they don't have my origins listed as a Race category, I'd have to say that I'm of the "Black" race. Anyone with any knowledge of my culture will understand why.
But I do call myself Latina, and proud to be an AMERICAN! Hoo Raaa!
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 9:53am
Msg #373111
Never mind him, Cari - where's my recipe...:) n/m
| Reply by FlaNotary2 on 2/17/11 11:58am
Msg #373136
What is interesting is the lack of any scientific
basis for race. It is entirely a social construction.
Where people in the U.S. may want to classify all people from Mexico as "Mexican", the Mexican population has historically had very clear racial boundaries within itself - the descendants of Spaniards (Creoles), Mestizo (mix of Creoles and indigenous people of Mexico), Afro-Mestizo (mix of African-descent and indigenous), etc.
Mexican and Puerto Rican are not races. They are ethnicities, because their identity is based solely on cultural similarities rather than racial similarities. The "Hispanic" category is only designed to clump those of any Spanish-speaking ethnicity into one ethnic group for statistical purposes, but there is little to no basis for it. A "Hispanic" person could be as white as porcelain or as black as ebony. Nothing racial about it. A Hispanic person can be of any race, but Hispanic is not in itself a race. Hispanic cultures vary greatly from nationality to nationality.
Cari, you are Puerto Rican and Cuban. Are you a Cuban of Spanish-descent or African-descent? Cuba has clear white and black populations. They happen to speak Spanish. That doesn't make them a racial group.
I'm Bahamian through and through. I hold a Bahamian passport and I can vote in Bahamian elections. The Bahamian people are no more of a race than the Puerto Rican people are - because Bahamians can be of any number of racial or ethnic backgrounds, as can people in any country. The African dark-skinned inhabitants of Equitorial Guinea speak Spanish. Are they Hispanic? Are they considered to be within the same racial group as a white Spaniard?
Just goes to show you, that there is no such thing as race. It is all in our heads. The law now defines race to be whatever a person considers themself to be. If you consider yourself black Cari, no one can tell you otherwise. If you assert yourself to be black then that is what you are. I consider myself "Multiracial" because I descend from numerous different backgrounds, and my driver record, voter record, notary application, etc., all reflect my race as "Other" or "Multiracial".
I guess you can tell I'm very into social studies and race relations.
| Reply by Bob_Chicago on 2/17/11 2:06pm
Msg #373164
"my driver record, voter record, notary application
etc., all reflect my race as "Other" or "Multiracial".
Why in the world would Florida require that info on those documents////!!!!
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 4:27pm
Msg #373198
My voter registration card and driver's license don't
have this info on them - but my application for my notary renewal done last summer does ask "Race"
| Reply by jba/fl on 2/17/11 4:39pm
Msg #373201
Did you put down you were a sprinter, strictly 50yd dash? n/m
| Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 2/17/11 5:13pm
Msg #373204
Re: What is interesting is the lack of any scientific
According to Encyclopedia Britannica:
Cubans:
The Guanahatabey and Ciboney peoples were among the original hunter-gatherer societies to inhabit Cuba by about 4000 bc, the former living in the extreme west of the island and the latter mainly on the cays to the south, with limited numbers in other places.
The Taino (Arawakan Indians) arrived later, probably about ad 500, and spread throughout Cuba, the rest of the Greater Antilles, and the Bahamas." HA...WE MAY BE RELATED...which would explain why you're such a PITA like a little brother...LOL just joking...jokey joke...
Continuing...
Puerto Ricans:
"Taino, Arawakan-speaking people, who at the time of Christopher Columbus’s exploration, inhabited what are now Cuba, Jamaica, Hispaniola (Haiti and the Dominican Republic), Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands.
Once the most numerous indigenous people of the Caribbean, the Taino may have numbered one or two million at the time of the Spanish conquest in the late 15th century. They had long been on the defensive against the aggressive Carib people, who had conquered the Lesser Antilles to the east."
I could also consider myself to be Other: Indian...lol...but once you go black...that's another jokey joke...(tough crowd...)
Continuing:
"Carib, American Indian people who inhabited the Lesser Antilles and parts of the neighbouring South American coast at the time of the Spanish conquest. Their name was given to the Caribbean Sea, and its Arawakan equivalent is the origin of the English word cannibal. Today the term Cariban is used to designate a linguistic group that includes not only the language of the Antillean Carib but also many related Indian languages spoken in South America.
Arawak, American Indians of the Greater Antilles and South America. The Taino, an Arawak subgroup, were the first native peoples encountered by Christopher Columbus on Hispaniola.."
I wonder why they were called "American Indians"...?
Continuing...
<<The "Hispanic" category is only designed to clump those of any Spanish-speaking ethnicity into one ethnic group for statistical purposes, but there is little to no basis for it.>>
"Race" is a varied definition dependent on the individual that is asked or referenced source. According to Wikipedia, Race:
"...refers to classifications of humans into relatively large and distinct populations or groups often based on factors such as appearance based on heritable phenotypical characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as culture, ethnicity and socio-economic status.."
Wiki referenced the above from Britannica as:
"Race, Term once commonly used in physical anthropology to denote a division of humankind possessing traits that are transmissible by descent and sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type (e.g., Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid)."
Also,
"The many meanings of “race”. The modern meaning of the term race with reference to humans began to emerge in the 17th century. Since then it has had a variety of meanings in the languages of the Western world.
What most definitions have in common is an attempt to categorize peoples primarily by their physical differences.
In the United States, for example, the term race generally refers to a group of people who have in common some visible physical traits, such as skin colour, hair texture, facial features, and eye formation.
Such distinctive features are associated with large, geographically separated populations, and these continental aggregates are also designated as races, as the “African race,” the “European race,” and the “Asian race.”
Many people think of race as reflective of any visible physical (phenotypic) variations among human groups, regardless of the cultural context and even in the absence of fixed racial categories.
The term "race" has also been applied to linguistic groups (the “Arab race” or the “Latin race”), to religious groups (the “Jewish race”), and even to political, national, or ethnic groups with few or no physical traits that distinguish them from their neighbours (the “Irish race,” the “French race,” the “Spanish race,” the “Slavic race,” the “Chinese race”, etc.)."
And this could go on and on...but interesting topic to say the least.
| Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 2/17/11 5:33pm
Msg #373212
test after.... n/m
| Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/17/11 7:09pm
Msg #373231
You get an "A" on this report! ;>)
<<"Race, Term once commonly used in physical anthropology to denote a division of humankind possessing traits that are transmissible by descent and sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type (e.g., Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid).">>
That's what I remember from my Anthropology course in college. Race was presented more as a scientifically cataloged physical distinction versus an ethnic or cultural distinction.
And as for this:
<<The term "race" has also been applied to linguistic groups (the “Arab race” or the “Latin race”), to religious groups (the “Jewish race”), and even to political, national, or ethnic groups with few or no physical traits that distinguish them from their neighbours (the “Irish race,” the “French race,” the “Spanish race,” the “Slavic race,” the “Chinese race”, etc.).>>
From everything I've read, I believe it would be more accurate to say that the term has been "mis-applied" to those various groups. Or it's been applied as a basis for discrimination. Unfortunately, most societies still have those who use various differences to think of some as "other" or "alien" and the term "race" becomes convenient for describing some people's "otherness". [Did I just make up a word? ]
However, it seems to me that, as our various societies have become more and more mobile, racial differences and distinctions have become less and less clearly defined - and hopefully less significant.
Yep, interesting topic, for sure!
| Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/17/11 8:14am
Msg #373096
Hey Cari....
I need a good recipe for arroz con pollo - when we lived in our apartment our neighbor used to make it and always brought us some and it was delish!! Haven't had a well-made arroz con pollo in about 35 years...
You have my e-mail address, Missy...
| Reply by Bob_Chicago on 2/17/11 7:57am
Msg #373092
Thanks for asking. Bob is alive and well. Didn't know that
anyone cared.
Maybe the lousy winter has cut down on my witty thoughts. But supposed to be sunny and
about 60 today, so mood should improve.
EOM should be starting about now. Things seem to be picking up a bit.
NOTROT board seems a bit calm lately, Maybe we need an new "crazie " or two to liven things up a bit. Trolls are like cops- never around when you need one.
| Reply by Ali/IL on 2/17/11 10:38am
Msg #373122
Linda and Cari don't forget the avocados n/m
| Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 2/17/11 11:25am
Msg #373130
YUM! And hope you're enjoying this pre-Spring weather Ali! n/m
| Reply by Moneyman/TX on 2/17/11 11:52am
Msg #373135
"Trolls are like cops..." LOL so true, Bob. :-) n/m
| Reply by CopperheadVA on 2/17/11 10:44am
Msg #373124
Other people that I have not seen post for a good while are
CaliNotary
Laura_V
Leon_CO
| Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 2/17/11 5:16pm
Msg #373206
didn't Calinotary get a real job as he called it?? n/m
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