Posted by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 11:02am
Msg #372970

"I quit" posts dont belong here....

I just reviewed the Rules & Guidelines for this forum (Discuss Work) and it appears that the random posts from members saying that they quit or are leaving the notary business does not belong here. Posting that you intend to quit being a notary or a NSA should be in Leisure. Posts that read 'Im done with being a notary or NSA' is not discussing notary work.

Plus, some of the folks who post that they are quitting are often times bitter, nasty and insulting to the rest of us in this business. Have you ever considered that this may not be the type of business for you? And you may want to know that we are all not liars, cheats, unprofessional and deal in fraud.

I'm retired, collecting a government pension and I absolutely enjoy working as a NSA. And I didn't get my title producer's license to become a millionaire nor to work for charity. I do fine in the real estate climate that I live and work in.

Signed
---Proud Business Owner, 9 years and counting

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/16/11 11:07am
Msg #372971

I disagree

If someone is leaving this line of work for whatever reason, I see no reason it shouldn't be posted here - IMO it's more work-related than it is leisure

I just went and looked at the guidelines quickly - I didn't see anything that would prohibit this type of posting here..would you please quote what you see there that leads you to this conclusion?

Thanks.

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 11:20am
Msg #372974

See section on ideological agenda......

"Discussion topics can be as general as basic notarial procedures or as specific as how the notary loan signing agent is to handle a particular signing scenario"

"Please keep off-topic posts to a minimum and avoid topics that others may consider offensive, such as politics and religion. Under no circumstance should the forum be used to further a political, ideological or religious agenda; these topics have nothing to do with the inherent neutrality of notarial functions and our board is therefore not an appropriate venue for them"
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Posting that you're quitting this profession because it is filled with liars, cheats and companies that can't pay their bills is your own ideology and therefore inappropriate content for this particular forum - regardless of whether you agree or not......

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/16/11 11:32am
Msg #372976

I hardly think a statement of

"I'm quitting this business because it's just not financially feasible any longer" constitutes an "idealogical agenda" - that sounds a bit dramatic to me.

I still think it's acceptable - and if it's NOT acceptable, than neither are the "trying to break into the business" posts...

MHO

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 11:56am
Msg #372984

there's a laundry list of inappropriate posts that can..

be found here....

And please dont change my quote to suit your needs. Someone posted on here that they were leaving this business because it is filled with liars, cheats, fraud, etc. They probably would have been better off saying that 'its just not financially feasible any longer'. We're all adults here. They're leaving the business angry and upset and was taking a swipe at all of us on the way out the door and it was rude to make such general statements.

My response....dont let the doorknob hit ya!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 2/16/11 12:02pm
Msg #372987

You sound like you took that post very personally

and I didn't. She told it like it was - she'd had enough..she said:

"Just so you all know I am finished with closings. To PAW, I have sent business your way and I plan to send it all your way. Nice meeting some of you, shame on the rest ( you know who you are ) Best of luck, Im off to greener pastures, Hopefully one filled with less fraud, mean spiritedness, forgery, deceipt and companies who cant seem to pay their bills."

Where do you figure she was "taking a swipe at all of us"? I don't get that impression.

And no need to get testy with me...

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 12:51pm
Msg #372993

Yes, I was very offended by her generalization

And there's certainly no need for you to get testy with me....

Reply by jba/fl on 2/16/11 11:15am
Msg #372972

I think (opinion) your post belongs on another thread

Msg #372732 , but you don't come here as much as you used to so you may have missed it. I like those kinds of threads also. Many times "misery loves company" stories are trumped by stories such as these. It makes it all worthwhile.

Nice to see you back again...

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 11:24am
Msg #372975

It's here for the violators, I'm good thx :) n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 2/16/11 11:20am
Msg #372973

I disagree. It's about the biz & there's plenty of whining

& complaining that goes on here. It's not all roses, as we all know.

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 11:47am
Msg #372979

that still does not make it right.......

general statements about folks being liars and cheaters as your reason for quitting the business is more than just mere whining and complaining....

Reply by jba/fl on 2/16/11 11:49am
Msg #372980

Were they talkig about you? Was this personal? n/m

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 12:00pm
Msg #372986

I was offended, dont know the poster n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 2/16/11 3:30pm
Msg #373031

It is not like you identify yourself, you know. n/m

Reply by SueW/Tn on 2/16/11 12:13pm
Msg #372989

Re: Were they talkig about you? Was this personal?

As things get worse in our field have you noticed the more "ridiculous" some of these threads get? I don't think I've ever seen a bigger forum police force than I have this year.....what a joke...I'm gonna go report myself.

Reply by jba/fl on 2/16/11 12:36pm
Msg #372991

It's about time! n/m

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/16/11 1:02pm
Msg #372995

We're new & improved this year! ;) n/m

Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 2/16/11 1:16pm
Msg #372998

Re: We're new & improved this year! ;)

I am completely bamboozled by BossLady's positions on these posts! I can't even begin to understand where she's coming from, though she's certainly entitled to her say.

I found the "I quit" posts extemely informative and helpful to me as an NSA. First of all, I was shocked to read in a such a short span of posts that at least four people (two of whom are major ubernotaries) have junked their loan-signing business for the most part because of (take your pick): low pay, no-pay, stress, being treated like dog poo, etc. On one of them (a VT notary) I offered several suggestions on how I thought she could try to stay in the game given her unusual circumstances), but all of it made me really think about where this business is going and if I'm going with it and under what circumstances. And I'm still thinking about it all. So, from me, a big "Thank you" to those posters.

Reply by MichiganAl on 2/16/11 1:38pm
Msg #373002

As a former member of the forum police...

I nominate this thread for the "silliest thread of the year" award.

Reply by MistarellaFL on 2/16/11 1:45pm
Msg #373003

Ditto that Al

I guess BossLady doesn't realize that her posting of her position on that thread is only her opinion, and not notary related either, therefore, in her estimation, unworthy of posting.
Just sayin'.

Reply by James Dawson on 2/16/11 3:28pm
Msg #373030

Ditto absolutely! n/m

Reply by MikeC/NY on 2/17/11 12:52am
Msg #373071

Did they give you back your badge? :) n/m

Reply by Moneyman/TX on 2/17/11 11:59am
Msg #373137

Another vote "For" :-) n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 2/16/11 2:48pm
Msg #373015

Re: Were they talkig about you? Was this personal?

*what a joke...I'm gonna go report myself.*

LOL!

Reply by Stamper_WI on 2/16/11 2:15pm
Msg #373010

I took it as all the bad names (liars, cheats, fraud) were all some of the people who call us. Like the cheats (no pays), Liars (everyone else is accepting that amount, or that doc was in the original package and fraud ( Back date this, Loan mod scams). It all stems from our converations here in reference to requests we get.
I can't think of any notaries here that could be considered any of that.

Reply by Moneyman/TX on 2/17/11 12:01pm
Msg #373138

That's how I took it as well n/m

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 2/16/11 2:24pm
Msg #373011

Re: BossLady, let's all join hands and sing Kumbaya ...

The subject line of the original post was quite clear. You didn't have to read it, and you didn't have to continue reading subsequent posts once you realized you were offended.

I was a signing agent for six years when I made the decision to get out of loan signings. I wasn't just a newbie that decided that this was not the type of business for me! And just because I made the decision to not be a NSA any longer, does not take away my privilege of posting in "Discuss Work."

Reply by Stephanie_CA on 2/16/11 2:50pm
Msg #373016

Not all Notaries that have decided to quit doing signings

are quitting due to the reasons you stated.
If perhaps a notary that would refer work to another notary, due to excessive demand, this is the place for this type of post.
Not all out-going notaries are jaded and I don't see posting here as a big deal.

Stephanie

Reply by SueW/Tn on 2/16/11 4:14pm
Msg #373039

Re: Not all Notaries that have decided to quit doing signings

Stephanie, you hit the nail right on the head. In all seriousness I also watch this forum and when I decided to cut wayyyyy back on my signings I referred plenty of signings to those that I've watch and listened to. I would think that would be a plus to the membership as opposed to a reportable offense but then I'm a little off my rocker these days ~wink clink~

Reply by John Schenk on 2/16/11 4:49pm
Msg #373047

If somebody quits, and takes a parting shot,

what are you going to do about it anyway? POOF, they're gone.

On the other hand, what if someone posts that they're "thinking about quitting?" Would that be a leisure post? Maybe they're just wanting to unload a little and are seeking a little support from their brother or sister notaries.

I personally have a problem with neither, and think both are discussing work.

JJ

Reply by Cari on 2/17/11 5:32am
Msg #373083

agree with John... n/m

Reply by LKT/CA on 2/16/11 7:08pm
Msg #373052

Agree with Stamper WI

<<<I took it as all the bad names (liars, cheats, fraud) were all some of the people who call us. Like the cheats (no pays), liars (everyone else is accepting that amount, or that doc was in the original package) and fraud (Back date this, Loan mod scams).>>>

That's how I took the post. I got the impression that the OP was referring to companies (particularly SSs).

Reply by Claudine Osborne on 2/16/11 8:29pm
Msg #373058

Fine with me too!

I have no problem with the quitting posts..I do believe this does belong in this forum. A lot of people read this board the usual notaries and newbies. If someone is quitting and wants to discuss why then we can all learn from their posts good or bad.

I did not take the OP personally.

Reply by kathy/ca on 2/16/11 9:29pm
Msg #373064

Totally agree LKT, didnt feel at all it was directed toward

any of us! I didnt take it at all personally and thought it was interesting to hear from the ones that are no longer doing loan signings, just general notary work. It is absolutely in my opinion appropriate for this forum.

Reply by MikeC/NY on 2/17/11 12:52am
Msg #373070

I'll join the others in disagreeing with you on this one

I think such posts are absolutely on topic here. They definitely DO speak to the state of this profession today - what better place to post them? This is a forum to discuss work issues, not to glorify the fact that you're running a notary business. Like any other business, sometimes it's great and sometimes it sucks, and sometimes it sucks so bad that you decide to get out. It has nothing to do with whether or not the poster has "considered that this may not be the type of business for you", and everything to do about whether the business is working out for them personally given current conditions.

And yeah, there are a lot of liars and cheaters and nasty folks in this business, but with a very few exceptions that's all on the hiring end. Any swipes being taken are not at the expense of fellow notaries; maybe you've misread them.

For the record, I stopped doing signings a year or so ago, for pretty much the same reasons that have been expressed in these "I quit" postings you're objecting to. I made a business decision that it just wasn't worth the time and effort, and although I've kept my notary commission active and continue to act in that capacity at times, but I've moved on to other things. Should I not be allowed to post in this forum any more?

Reply by HisHughness on 2/17/11 1:46am
Msg #373072

Re: I'll join the others in disagreeing with you on this one

I don't find such postings out of order. I just find them boring and unproductive. Don't read them, once I recognize what they are.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 2/17/11 1:58am
Msg #373073

Re: "I quit" posts dont belong here.... Also disagree

I'm with the others who feel that those comments do have a place here. The comments may not specifically be about notary "work", but they are about the notary "business", which I believe most of us would find very relevant to our work. Notary business related topics are some of the most responded to and it seems that most agree that they're relevant to what we come here for.

Also, for every one person who posts here that they've decided to move on or are considering leaving this business, there are probably a dozen (or several) others who are doing or thinking the exact same thing. Those who post about quitting all have different reasons for posting here, but probably all are experiencing a variety of emotions about it. Similar to what someone else said, some will want to vent, some will want to blame someone, and some will just want to commiserate with their colleagues on this board. I don't imagine the decision to quit is easily made by the majority.

Let's face it, our business is going through another phase where things are changing. Interest rates are starting to creep up and other issues (that I'm not even going to try to get into) are impacting us. So these discussions may be helpful to those who are on the fence and are also contemplating making some changes - and possibly leaving this business altogether.

BTW, I also assumed that the comments about liars and cheaters referred to the bottom-feeder signing services that get so much negative press here and that readers here are always being warned away from - not us NSAs.

Reply by BossLadyMD on 2/18/11 1:01pm
Msg #373299

I'm not on here looking for an entourage....

If folks are unhappy in the business and want to attack people, then they ought to be man or woman enough to identify them. All this 'I'm for or against, agree or disagree' posts mean absolutely nothing to me and certainly does not change my interpretation. I'm not on here looking for an entourage and couldn't care less who agrees or disagrees with me. At my age now, I have no use for brownie points.