Posted by FGX/NJ on 1/12/11 9:00am
Msg #368201

NotaryNow.com Press Release

FYI
http://www.americanbankingnews.com/2011/01/12/notarynow-offers-worlds-first-online-notarization-service/
ps
Have filed complaint with NJ Dept Of Treasury which is responsible for Notaries in NJ
Also NJ Notary Assn. is contacting State

Reply by BrendaTx on 1/12/11 10:38am
Msg #368216

I have contacted the Tx SOS. n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 1/12/11 10:55am
Msg #368218

I sent their info to FL SOS yesterday.. n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 1/12/11 4:25pm
Msg #368276

I did as well (FL) n/m

Reply by HisHughness on 1/12/11 10:59am
Msg #368219

Is there any state in which this is legal?

I suspect this may ultimately actually be the norm, maybe 20-25 years from now. But for right now, it seems the technology is outrunning the law.

Reply by LisaWI on 1/12/11 11:08am
Msg #368220

Re: Sent email to WI SOS :) n/m

Reply by JanetK_CA on 1/12/11 2:04pm
Msg #368251

I dunno... I realize that you don't do thumbprints in Texas, but it's required for many things here, and probably elsewhere. Right now. that would be pretty tough to do! Of course, someone will probably figure out a way to get a thumbprint electronically, too, but it seems to me that that would be too easy to fake.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 1/12/11 4:36pm
Msg #368279

YOu can do electronic thumbprints in CA. I know several notaries who maintain electronic journals, complete with a electronic signing and fingerprint pad. That's perfectly acceptable in CA... just few do it. The ones I know that do are stationary notaries, too...not mobile.

There's no way that I can think of that this could be done remotely.

Reply by BrendaTx on 1/12/11 4:46pm
Msg #368283

Indeed...several gadgets out that make it possible to

get electronic thumb prints.

Texas notaries are not supposed to collect "biometric" identifiers. According to the SoS, that is exactly what it is.

Back to NotaryNow.com:
If this website is left to stand, I would like to partner with someone who wants to sell marijuana over the internet; or perhaps forged documents. I mean, if the internet is like the wild west, let's make it good.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 1/13/11 12:35am
Msg #368346

Good point. But I *was* visualizing the remote aspect of sending it over the internet in some fashion. I think it would be pretty difficult to pick out fake IDs, too. But I guess, as others have discussed, that's not really worth much contemplation since personal appearance will probably continue to be a requirement for a very long time.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 1/12/11 11:09am
Msg #368221

The NNA has advised me that they are looking into it n/m

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 1/12/11 11:13am
Msg #368223

Sent to NASS (since I don't believe ANY state allows this) n/m

Reply by LisaWI on 1/12/11 11:19am
Msg #368226

Re: Sent to NASS (since I don't believe ANY state allows this)

Good idea Renee Thank you. I went to their website. What worries me is before anyone does anything about this, some innocent consumers might bite on it.

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 1/12/11 11:21am
Msg #368228

Will be interesting if NASS starts their usual e-mailing to

each other, those on that list-serv (as I am) will be able to read the conversation.

Reply by ikando on 1/12/11 12:44pm
Msg #368241

Re: Will be interesting if NASS starts their usual e-mailing to

Good for you, Renee. And I know you'll keep us informed.

Like Lisa said, I wonder how many unaware consumers will be drawn into this. And I wonder how much they'll charge for closings ;-)

Reply by ReneeK_MI on 1/12/11 2:47pm
Msg #368263

didn't take long - question just hit the list-serv. n/m

Reply by BrendaTx on 1/12/11 12:55pm
Msg #368242

My concern are notaries visiting the site...

Hey, that sounds like a great idea! I will get my electronic seal and start a new business! And, then there will be about a million of them falling from the skies.

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 1/12/11 1:43pm
Msg #368247

Filed inquiry with the California SOS n/m

Reply by FGX/NJ on 1/12/11 4:01pm
Msg #368269

Re: Filed inquiry with the California SOS

NJ Depy of Treasury has refered this to the A/G

Reply by BrendaTx on 1/12/11 4:51pm
Msg #368285

Nice...it would be good to see a cease and desist

order shut 'em down.

How stupid can they be?

Reply by BrendaTx on 1/12/11 5:56pm
Msg #368302

FGX/NJ - Thanks to you for bringing it to the attention of

notaries. We might get them off the 'net yet!

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 1/12/11 4:03pm
Msg #368270

I received a reply a little while ago...

FL SOS is looking into it and they are concerned.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 1/12/11 4:29pm
Msg #368277

Glad to see the SOSs taking interest in this matter

This is very dangerous to our profession. All we need is for other notaries to see this and start a similar website. Not to mention, the public will begin to think that personal appearance no longer applies.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 1/12/11 5:16pm
Msg #368290

I spoke with the CA SoS office...

They are now very aware of this. This company seems to be based in California on some level, as their press release is out of Newport Beach and their contact phone number is area code 805 (also California).

The gentleman I spoke with took down all the details and said that it was, in fact, illegal, and he'd be forwarding it to their investigations department.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 1/12/11 5:20pm
Msg #368292

Re: I spoke with the CA SoS office...

OH, and something interesting. ON their website, they state that they way they verify identity is not just by ID, but by utilizing details from credit files! Uhh......

Reply by Glenn Strickler on 1/12/11 5:47pm
Msg #368300

They answered the phone???

I am impressed. I called a few times and was put on "forever hold" . I filled out the electronic form on the website.


I guess they didn't know it was me on the other end, that's it!!

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 1/12/11 5:52pm
Msg #368301

Not only did they answer... they answered in under a minute!

I was shocked, too. I figured I'd be on hold for a long time.

Reply by jba/fl on 1/12/11 6:34pm
Msg #368307

Re: They answered the phone???

Hadn't heard of "forever hold" but have heard of Perma Hold. Must be the same. It's a bear trap one cannot get out of sometimes. Stinks.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 1/12/11 7:40pm
Msg #368319

Re: They answered the phone???

I've always called it "terminal" hold. Seems to cover the prognosis of being stuck there "forever"...