Posted by ikando on 3/24/11 10:26am
Msg #377344

Go further for less $

This week has been interesting. I've received several calls for closings which are further than my base, but only offered less than I was making just 4 months ago from the same companies. When I let them know that I needed $XXX, they give the standard line.

Between signing companies who take our money and refuse to pay us, and what seems to be the trend to expect us to lower our fees, this is getting ridiculous.

I really enjoy doing closings and working with companies that realize that my costs are going up, and that perhaps I'd like to have a raise from when I started in 2004 (I haven't raised my prices since then). However, if this trend continues, I'll focus more on my other business.

Reply by Virginia/PA on 3/24/11 10:42am
Msg #377349

The answer is Economics 101. Supply and Demand. The signing industry is glutted with more signing agents than needed and the demand for signing agents will continue to go down as interest rates go up. Would probably be better if you did focus more on your other business. For those of us who don't already have another business, perhaps looking into getting one is a good idea. I'm doing just that myself. For signing agents in Pennsylvania, Maryland and Connecticut, please view my profile.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 3/24/11 4:19pm
Msg #377420

Re: Virginia -- I believe your profile should be yanked

<<For signing agents in Pennsylvania, Maryland and Connecticut ...>>

Do you honestly believe that a signing agent, let alone a signing service or title company is really going to read your fiction novel, which certainly isn't the Reader's Digest version?

It would be bad enough panhandling your wares if your were paying to be listed as a premier member -- but you aren't even a paying member.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 3/24/11 4:21pm
Msg #377421

Re: P.S.

And you aren't even panhandling notary services!!!

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/24/11 4:41pm
Msg #377422

It is too long to be read.

I know a signing agent who was "really" makin' big bucks, tons of money in that same business when she was trying to get me to bend me to her pressure and will about it so I would push it with my many contacts.

"Seriously?" I wanted ask her, "Is that why you have continued to live in [a place you were not comfortable in and wanted to move out of as soon as you could]?"

Wonder what the buy in on this one is?

MLMers only really make money when they recruit more people to buy in.

I have an idea. I offer everyone a TOP TIER membership in an MLM op called "Two Bills." Here's how it works.

Send me two $100 bills and you will be a FIRST LEVEL member!

The way to earn is to offer this membership to others for the same price, second tier. Once you get their two bills, send me $100 and you keep $100. How easy is that??

Those will be third tier and recruit and get paid $200. They keep $50, you keep $50 and you send me $100.

If ANY level member recruits ten in one month I will send them a $200 bonus! Me! Personally...out of my own pocket...the grand poo-pah of Two Bills will descend from a throne and pay your personally.

Get in while you can still make top tier income!!!

Reply by ikando on 3/24/11 6:11pm
Msg #377432

Re: It is too long to be read.

Brenda, sounds like you've been burned by MLMs before. I like your idea. I'd probably make more money that way, but unfortunately, that's how the pyramid schemes work.

There are MLMs which are legitimate and promote legitimate products. I've been a part of those. The bottom line for any of them is, HARD WORK! and keep recruiting new people, which is why I'm not doing it any more.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 3/24/11 6:48pm
Msg #377434

Re: To each their own about MLMs and recruiting --

it just doesn't belong here. Can you say Off Topic, Advertising, probably phishing scheme -- like I originally said, in my opinion, the profile should be yanked.

Reply by BrendaTx on 3/24/11 10:06pm
Msg #377441

Nope, never been burned...but have observed.

I've read a lot about it. The problem is not that the products aren't great products. Usually they are. The push to convince other people to buy in is where the money is, though. I have never met an MLM "business owner" who achieved a measure of success that didn't have such a riveted focus on recruiting others into the marvelous opportunity that their eyes looked like pinwheels and their behavior became increasingly annoying.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 3/24/11 10:02pm
Msg #377440

Other people use their profiles to advertise what they do.

Granted, it's not as long as Virginia's. She lost me in the first sentence.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 3/24/11 10:49pm
Msg #377448

Re: Other people use their profiles to advertise what they do.

Not only is she using her bloated profile to advertise what she does other than notary services, she is, in my opinion, blatantly abusing NotRot forum by publicly posting and telling people to view her profile.

<<For those of us who don't already have another business, perhaps looking into getting one is a good idea. I'm doing just that myself. For signing agents in Pennsylvania, Maryland and Connecticut, please view my profile.>>

Telling Signing Services to view her profile is one thing -- telling signing agents to view it is something else.

Past posters have lost their privileges for much less.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 3/25/11 12:22am
Msg #377457

I beg to differ with you.

Yes, People advertise what they do other than notary services. Have you looked at James' profile. He is a fine artist and advertises as such in his profile.
She is merely asking people to look at her profile if they are interested. I really don't see anything wrong with that. Lots of notaries are looking for other things to do.

Reply by James Dawson on 3/24/11 10:56am
Msg #377351

I agree, I've been really concentrating on my General notary work which I enjoy more anyway. Like others have posted, I do not believe things will get better when interest rates start to raise. Everyone is feeling the pinch and so it will become a pay and play industry as SS over-extend themselves and find even more reasons to no pay and lower fees. IMO