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Interesting excerpt from "Medieval Notaries and their Acts"
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Interesting excerpt from "Medieval Notaries and their Acts"
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Posted by FlaNotary2 on 3/31/11 7:19am
Msg #378076

Interesting excerpt from "Medieval Notaries and their Acts"

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The founctions of the modern notary public in the United States in comerce and real estate resemble those of the medieval notary, thoguh important dimesnions of the traditional recording role of the notary have been assumed by attorneys in the United States. (1) To attest to the authenticity of the signatures on a written document, the U.S. notary's job is to verify the identity of the parties before they sign a contract and to witness their signatures. the notary also administers oaths and then attests to the same (a jurat). The notary may ask signers to swear that they are signing of free will (California, Louisiana, and Florida). (2)

The notarial signature and seal then constitute legal proof that the parties really did appear before the notary and sign the document. The notary's signature and seal form part of a legal affidavit attached to the document. The modern notary serves as the "witness" to the signatures and can be called to testify in court. All documents affecting property ownership, such as deeds, liens, and mortgages, need to be notarized. No piece of real estate can be transferred in the United States without a valid notarial affidavit. Certain documents, such as affidavits, subpoenas, depositions, powers of attorney, and wills, and absentee ballots for voting abroad, require notarization.

Notaries public in the United States are authorized to perform their duties by each individual state. In the state of Minnesota notaries must be free of felony convictions and be bonded. Technically, they are considered officers of the court or of the state. Some states require that a notarial journal be kept (e.g. Oregon and Florida). There are written exams for notaries in some states. In some jurisdictions it is necessary to be a practicing attorney before becoming a notary. States regulate the fees notaries can charge for their services. For the most part, these duties are similar in every state, but two states, namely Florida and Virginia, have authorized notaries public to perform additional duties. In Florida, a notary public can perform marriage ceremonies; in Virginia, a notary public is also a peace officer. Some states allow notaries to draft notarial testaments anda cts of donation, and to make inventories, appraisals, and marriage contracts, as well as to be named as administrator, executor, and trustee. Yet, in the United States, the role of the notary public is relatively minor compared to the fucntions exercised by the medieval notary and by the modern continental European notary, as the notarial tradition preserves a strong legal role, undiminshed its contractual function, in countries such as France and Italy.

In present-day Europe notaries enjoy favorable social and economic status as members of the legal profession, as do judges, magistrates, and lawyers, much as they did in the Middle Ages. A university law degree and apprenticeship as a clerk in the office of notaries are necessary before one can become a notary in France, Italy, and Spain. The notarial office passes down in families as a valuable asset of the family fortune, and there is often succession from father to son over many generations in a particular notarial firm. Today, the purchase of a notarial firm with an already established clientele is a costly undertaking.

(1) For more information, see the National Notary Association.
(2) The differing historical experience of states in the U.S. affects their notarial tradition. Spanish influence has affected states such as Florida, Louisiana, and California while French presence has had a significant impact on law in Louisiana, in particular.
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Now I know that Florida 1) does not require journals and 2) does not require us to administer an oath when taking an acknowledgment. And I don't *think* that California requires the latter either.

I did find it interesting that footnote #2 says that Spanish influences have affected notary laws in Florida, Louisiana and California. Now Florida law does allow us to perform marriages, which I suppose is unique, and I would love to know where that tradition came from, and if it truly is Spanish-influenced.

Just thought I'd share Smile

Reply by Kevin/Ct on 3/31/11 9:43am
Msg #378088

Our system of justice had its beginnings in the Roman/Celtic/Saxon/ Nordic(Danish)/Norman(French) systems of justice. During the reign of the Norman kings (Some attribute it to Henry II) a system of circuit judges would make the rounds to rule on grievances. Prior to that there was personal redress of grievances in which you just beat someone to death if he annoyed you or transgressed your rights as an Englishman.

The Norman Kings were quick to see that their tax base from their subjects would be diminished if they were permitted their subjects to beat each other to death. Hence, the need for circuit judges arose.Grievances would be held in abeyance until the circuit judge arrived. There was one small problem. Most people were illiterate at the time.

Actually the notaries of the Middle Ages acted more like Clerks of the Court . They were called "Prothonatories" . Most individuals excluding monks were illiterate. The nobility most often relied on the impression of a signet ring to sign a document. We have a system of justice which has evolved to allow both statutory law (made by the legislature) and common law (made by judges in the absence of statutory law). Common law is based on legal precedent. The Prothonotaries were entrusted in writing down the decisions in the common law cases so that they could be refrred to at later dates for legal prcedent.

Reply by Les_CO on 3/31/11 11:42am
Msg #378104

I think we should go back to the “personal redress of grievances” it would save a lot of time, trouble, expense, and natural resources. jmho

Reply by Susan Fischer on 3/31/11 12:25pm
Msg #378111

Les, surely there are still places you could move to that

would accommodate your wish to live where "personal redress of grievances" is a way of life (or death).

Reply by Les_CO on 3/31/11 4:31pm
Msg #378168

Re: Les, surely there are still places you could move to that

Well In Colorado we do have the "make my day law" and here in Castle Rock I think most abide by it. Smile!

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 3/31/11 1:25pm
Msg #378130

Prothonotaries are an entirely different thing

and they still exist in Pennsylvania... they are basically court clerks.

Reply by Kevin/Ct on 3/31/11 2:22pm
Msg #378144

Re: Prothonotaries are an entirely different thing

In the Middle Ages when few were literate there was no such distinction.

Reply by HisHughness on 3/31/11 12:09pm
Msg #378109

Those of us who are birdwatchers...

...do not associate the prothonotary with medieval jurisprudence. Instead, it calls to mind the prothonotary warbler, a lovely little yellow and blue-gray bird found in the swamps and wetlands of the East. They are unusual amongst warblers in that they nest in holes in trees, rather than in bushes. If we signing agents ever get around to adopting a mascot, the prothonotary would be my choice.

Unless the mascot is chosen to reflect the realities of the profession, in which case it would have to be the worm-eating warbler.



Reply by jba/fl on 4/1/11 1:26am
Msg #378243

Re: Those of us who are birdwatchers...

Oh, you remembered my post about this little bird, Msg #351222

I also nominate this one as our mascot.

Reply by SharonMN on 3/31/11 2:22pm
Msg #378146

Not true. There is no bond requirement in MN.

>>In the state of Minnesota notaries must be free of felony convictions and be bonded.

Reply by Larry Adams on 3/31/11 7:13pm
Msg #378202

California specifically prohibits using the term "Notario Publico" mostly because an NP, in Mexico, Central and South America, is a type of lawyer. With all the legal and illegal Hispanics in California, confusing a Notary with a lawyer could have some serious consequences, for the Hispanics. A Notary who uses the term will probably have his/her commission revoked by the SOS.


 
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