Posted by Flexo-Graphex Inc. on 3/8/11 7:50am Msg #375411
ONLY ONE WAY TO STOP THIS
http://blog.notarynow.com/index.php/2011/03/notarynow-passes-ca-review/
They are only using NJ Notaries to do this all over the country. Google Traveling Notary and your state and you will see they are running Google Ad Words every where including Ca, NJ MUST stop their Notaries from performing webcam notarizations. The NJ Notary Div. has refused to take any action until they receive advice from NJ Atty. Gen. I have a complaint filed and have been wanting more than a month for action. The NJ Notary Assn has also filed complaint. http://www.newjerseynotaryassociation.org/webcam_notary.html We must put outside pressure on NJ Mr. Andrew Pantelides is Asst. Dir. of Business Services, Div of the Treasury He is in charge of Notaries in NJ PO BOX 308 Trenton, NJ 08646 Phone 609-984-6209 Fax 609-984-6832 This will continue until NJ takes action to bar Notaries from doing this.
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Reply by James Dawson on 3/8/11 8:08am Msg #375416
Someone must be convincing the NJ Notaries it's O K to do? The rest of us, I believe, know it isn't and don't.
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Reply by MW/VA on 3/8/11 9:02am Msg #375426
I can't imagine how out of hand (sorry for the pun) things will get when that law passes in VA next year. I think we need to keep in mind that the VA law will apply to VA e-notaries, and has requirements for an e-seal & e-journal. I wonder if these folks are keeping any records??????
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Reply by Renee Greene on 3/8/11 9:52am Msg #375435
The only thing that can stop this in VA is for everone to ask the governor to veto it. I have emailed him and also sent along the CA law. If enough notaries ask him to veto it maybe he will. I can't belive that anyone could have even suggested doing a web cam signing. Every here of ID theft?
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Reply by BobbiCT on 3/8/11 9:18am Msg #375429
webcam notarizations a State-by-State issue
Personal Opinion. If you find a person performing a webcam notarization in your state and believe it is not allowed, report the PERSON to your commissioning office.
If the notarization is legal in the state it is performed in, then "it is what it is." Voting constituents, attorneys and notaries in the state that allows it are the ones to make the complaint to their elected officials and State office responsible for commissioning webcam notaries.
If a California notary is performing webcam notarizations using this software, when you find one, report it to your California offices.
I don't know if webcam notarizations are not permitted in New Jersey, I appreciate the New Jersey notaries battle against this definition of "personal appearance." I do know my Connecticut objection to what a New Jersey notary may be doing (unless it is a complaint with "standing") to the NJ attorney general, won't have any influence. If I find a CT notary webcam notarization, I will give that notary's name to my CT Secretary of State's office.
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Reply by James Dawson on 3/8/11 9:25am Msg #375430
Re: webcam notarizations a State-by-State issue
I agree but I have a question. Would you remind the "person" that it was illegal first and risk being blasted or report them without being assured you would remain anonymous. Just a thought. Personally I would remind them by referencing the notary handbook.
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Reply by BobbiCT on 3/8/11 10:04am Msg #375439
If I knew ...
I have often been asked my CT opinon by a CT notary, once given I also suggest the notary or person requesting the notarization by another notary, call our SOTS notary public unit attorney to verify what I said. Each individual notary interprets the written word differently. I KNOW that not everyone agrees with my opinion of the "written word" or interpretation of the CT Notary Public Manual or related State Statutes, particularly when it comes to the "personally known" vs. identification issue and "personal" appearance.
As we all know, we cannot officially complain about a notarization that hasn't yet happened.
I would never make an anonymous complaint to the SOTS or attorney general. I would ask that "who" complained would be kept confidential, but there are never assurances it would be.
FYI. The SOTS often gets calls about notarized documents by a signer who didn't appear before the notary. End result: the signer is NOT making a complaint, just wants to verify the document is "legal"; i.e., the signer WANTS the document valid on the date it was signed and in order to keep the deal as s/he got it, will not complain or "tell" specifics. If the signer, receiver of the document and the notary do not complain and want the document to stand as is, there is no "injured party with standing" to complain. If the document is not contested by an of the affected parties, there are also other CT laws that may "validate" the document "as is" within X number of years.
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Reply by James Dawson on 3/8/11 10:32am Msg #375446
Re: If I knew ...
Yea, thanks for answering. I try to give them the info to decifer for themselves and try hard( not to successful all the time) to keep my opinion to myself. There are some notaries on the forum like PAW, Brenda, Sylvia, ReeneeVa, Linda H, to name a few, who cite specifics which is the way to go IMO.
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Reply by James Dawson on 3/8/11 10:50am Msg #375447
Re: If I knew ...
ReneeK SORRY
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Reply by John E. Rogers on 3/8/11 3:05pm Msg #375506
Re: webcam notarizations a State-by-State issue
I feel ignorant! What the heck is a "webcam notarization?????? jer
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Reply by paul/NJ on 3/8/11 10:17am Msg #375444
Wow I am a notary in New Jersey this is the first I am hearing of this.I personally would never notarize that way.I really don't understand how that can be done and really how it would whole up on legal documents.
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Reply by ME/NJ on 3/8/11 2:09pm Msg #375483
Only two ways this wll move forward in NJ
1. Can the state make money on it- turn a blind eye to it.
2. Someone of power is caught with hand in cookie jar and needs to to clear things up.
Would be nice if NJ would do something, but there is now money in it for the state right now so why bother.
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