Posted by LisaWI on 3/17/11 6:08pm
Msg #376549

Rats!!

2nd time I have run into this form and maybe its just me, buuuuut, it drives me nuts. Its the Fidelity National Title Ins Company Form titled Owner/Borrower/Contractor Aff & Indemnification Agreement. And my ordeal is the signature page and the spot to notarize with absolutely no room for your seal. Nada, zip, none what-so-ever........There are four signature areas on the form for different situations leaving you even less space to try and get your seal as close to your siggy as possible.

So, anyone feel free to share where on this goofy form do you put your seal? Pretty please I think I know where Im going to try and sneak it in, but still am curious as to how others might do this form.

Reply by jba/fl on 3/17/11 6:24pm
Msg #376550

Attach ack or jurat.Maybe they will redesign if enough do. n/m

Reply by LisaWI on 3/17/11 6:50pm
Msg #376554

Re: Attach ack or jurat.Maybe they will redesign if enough do.

Are you saying protest Julie?? LOL....

Yeah I thought about that too, but I try and use loose certificates as a last resort. Those darn things seem to get lost a lot according to postings on here so I refrain from using them if I dont have to.

A redesign on a lot of documents would be nice though! Ya know, like making the line for the borrowers names actually long enough to put the names on, or how about changing 2010 to 2011? Im sure I could come up with a nice long list if I thought about it more But its time for supper and supper trumps.

Reply by Alz on 3/17/11 7:06pm
Msg #376559

I doubt it. The form is quite old. n/m

Reply by Yoli/CA on 3/17/11 6:48pm
Msg #376553

I've always attached a loose certificate. No problem. n/m

Reply by James Dawson on 3/17/11 6:52pm
Msg #376555

Re: I've always attached a loose certificate. No problem.

dITTO...a lot of times one in included...your seal must not cover any wording what so ever.

Reply by LisaWI on 3/17/11 7:00pm
Msg #376557

Re: I've always attached a loose certificate. No problem.

I know what your saying James cause thats how I operate, no seal over writing, thats why this one drives me nuts. If you knew what form I was referring to, you would be shaking your head. Its in a block about 4 inches long and an inch & a half tall. Inside that is all the notarial verbiage, the venue, add the signers names, a spot for your sig, a spot for you to print your name, a spot for your commission exp date and then it says seal underneath that and there is absolutely no where to put it. The next box down has writing in it.

Anyhoo, I put it above right where the notary section is. Thats the best I can do without adding a loose certificate.

Reply by Alz on 3/17/11 7:04pm
Msg #376558

I know exactly what you mean about that form; however, I

always attach a loose certificate. I've never had an issue, maybe because I always use a paper clip to attach to said document.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 3/17/11 7:19pm
Msg #376562

Attaching generally means stapling. n/m

Reply by jba/fl on 3/17/11 7:24pm
Msg #376567

My interpretation and MO also. n/m

Reply by Alz on 3/18/11 12:15pm
Msg #376625

I guess it depends on where you are from n/m

Reply by JanetK_CA on 3/17/11 7:24pm
Msg #376566

Re: I've always attached a loose certificate. No problem.

This one is a no-brainer for any CA notary because the verbiage on that form is not compliant with state law anyway. I have a stamp with the correct jurat wording that can sometimes fit at the bottom of the page and still have room for my notary stamp. If not, then I have no option but to add a loose certificate.

What I really hate about that form half the time is that it's often reduced so small that you can barely read it, let alone have enough room for the borrower(s) to sign and date.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 3/17/11 7:18pm
Msg #376561

Often, those four blocks are so small that....

there's plenty of room underneath them. sometimes they are even printed on legal.

Reply by pat/WA on 4/18/11 3:08pm
Msg #380280

If this is Fidelity National Title/Charlie Kim and Associates, you will never be paid. They owe me from October, 2010