Posted by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 1:08pm
Msg #403424

Need a partner to start signing company

Hello,

I am looking for a dedicated partner to start a document signing company. I have everything in place, the name, website (notary and client management system already installed and working -worth over $5,000), toll free phone number, pretty much everything. The person that I am looking for needs to be a notary (with at least 2 years of experience in document signing) or anyone that has at least 2 years of experience working in a signing company. I created this business because of my mother however due to an illness she was unable to continue with the project. So now everything is just sitting there therefore I am looking for someone to partner with that knows the ins and outs of running a signing company. If you are interested please submit a letter of interest: [e-mail address], be sure to include your years of experience and contact information. If you have any questions you may also call me on my business line at 307-633-9667. Thank you.

Okechi

Reply by ME/NJ on 11/10/11 1:11pm
Msg #403425

Good Luck, better review everything again just saying n/m

Reply by BossLadyMD on 11/10/11 1:20pm
Msg #403428

This is advertising or a scam or both. n/m

Reply by NJDiva on 11/10/11 1:25pm
Msg #403429

This is advertising or a scam or both.

It sure sounds it, huh? With all due respect if we're just being cynical, but it kinda gave me a creepy feeling.

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 8:49pm
Msg #403517

Re: This is advertising or a scam or both.

No scam. here is the site if you want to check it out; www.notarypoint.com

Reply by Les_CO on 11/10/11 1:43pm
Msg #403431

Do you have the $50,000 in capital to pay your notaries and your overhead for your first month? Do you have contacts established with several Title Companies/Lenders to do business with them? Do you have the million dollars worth of general liability insurance required my most you will need to do business with? Does this ‘insurance’ extend to the notaries you will contract with. Have you been ‘approved’ by Fidelity National, and others like them? Are you licensed to business in FL? Are you a US citizen? Do you have a criminal record? If you can answer yes to these questions, what will your ‘partner’ need to produce, and how will the company proceeds be divided and who will have the ultimate decision making authority?

Reply by Karla/WA on 11/10/11 2:14pm
Msg #403437

......and when all those questions are answered, will they pay for "printed docs", no signs, and all the other issues that crop up?

I would think once, twice, then another 3 or 4 times before getting into this business.

Reply by ikando on 11/10/11 3:27pm
Msg #403461

Les, I had the same questions, plus What investment do you want from a partner?

Reply by ikando on 11/10/11 3:34pm
Msg #403463

Did a Google search on the name Okechi Nobles. Found that she is an ESL teacher and owns/owned a gift shop for over 9 years. Perhaps the business side is taken care of, but I don't see anything indicating any experience in the NSA business.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/10/11 3:36pm
Msg #403464

Not a FL commissioned notary - unless under a different name

or perhaps commissioned in WI where the ESL Certified Training is?

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/10/11 5:24pm
Msg #403483

Re: Not a FL commissioned notary - unless under a different name

http://notarypoint.com is her website

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 9:01pm
Msg #403525

Re: Not a FL commissioned notary - unless under a different name

yes, that is correct www.notarypoint.com

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 9:00pm
Msg #403524

Re: Not a FL commissioned notary - unless under a different name

Wyoming. I use to be a notary in florida but never made it a business.

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 8:59pm
Msg #403523

I do not know at this time but I am opened to suggestions. My thing is that I do not want the money i invested already to be a waste.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 11/10/11 4:21pm
Msg #403471

"... Do you have a criminal record? If you can answer yes to these questions..."

Is this a Freudian slip? Although sometimes it seems like that could be a prerequisite to running a signing service, I'm sure that's not what you're suggesting! [Sorry, I just couldn't let that slide by... ]

Good, important questions, though, that should be considered by anyone wanting to get into the signing business. The original poster likely also needs an attorney. If we take the post at face value, my advice would be to do a lot more research about the business and the whole industry before jumping in further. If the original reasons for doing this no longer apply, it may be wise to start from scratch, do a solid business plan and see if it still makes sense. That will be tough to do, though, without any personal experience.

BTW, another good idea might be to start from today and work backwards on this board reading posts about some of the challenges that people have encountered in their day-to-day activities. This will give you something of an idea of the kinds of issues you'd have to deal with. If you go back far enough, you'll get at least a pretty good start at an education about this field.

Reply by Les_CO on 11/10/11 5:28pm
Msg #403484

You caught me! Should have said “do you not have a criminal record.”
Although I think that many that try the SS business probably do.
Actually I think one could run a SS from prison, you just need schedulers on the outside.
A perfect business for those that are dishonest.
All you need is a phone, and a PO box. You don’t need to speak English,(your schedulers should) you don’t need to be a citizen, you don’t need any credit,(the notaries give that to you for free) You don’t need to know anything about the business, (many don’t) you don’t have to be a notary. You don’t need any kind of license. You don’t need experience. You can have a criminal record. You can run the business from offshore. You get people to work for free, and you NEVER have to pay them.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 11/10/11 7:30pm
Msg #403507

Oy vey!! Let's not encourage them! We've got enough of those types in the business already!! But I guess you pretty much nailed the business plan used by some of the nefarious types that keep getting posted about over and over again - and get the one-star ratings...

Reply by Howard Blum on 11/10/11 8:21pm
Msg #403512

I never ceases to amaze me how people are so quick to paint with such a broad brush.

To even suggest that all signing services are bad with potential criminality in their past is nothing sort of shameful and reprehensible.

Shame on you Les-CO

Reply by Les_CO on 11/10/11 10:41pm
Msg #403537

Need a partner to start signing company?can't read Howard?

I did NOT say that Howard. I said a "perfect business for someone dishonest" If you will take the trouble to read some of my posts you will find that I am among the few 'fans' of the HONEST SS's and actually believe they are NOT parasites but a boon to our business. The deadbeat thieves are another story.

Reply by Howard Blum on 11/14/11 4:32pm
Msg #403901

I guess Les-Co cannot even read his own posts:

on 11/10/11 at 2:58 PM you posted the following:

"You caught me! Should have said “do you not have a criminal record.”
Although I think that many that try the SS business probably do."

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 9:03pm
Msg #403526

Thank you for the post. I really do appreciate it. My question now is what do I do with the software program . . . sell it?

Reply by Les_CO on 11/10/11 10:56pm
Msg #403539

Just FYI. There are several companies that provide software/website services to Signing Service Companies and to Title Companies that run their own ‘in house’ Signing Service. These sights not only provide the software but a data base of thousands of notary signing agents. These companies usually charge a per order fee, that costs dollars a month. IF your software works and is easy to use I suggest you market it to either those sites, or to someone that could use it such as Title Companies that do their own nationwide signing business or those that may want to start. If you are here in CO the Title Companies in Denver would be a good place to start. I wish you luck.

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 8:57pm
Msg #403522

I am a US citizen and no i do not have a criminal record. I have a licensed business in Wyoming called ESL Certified but I currently live in Colorado. I was once a notary in Florida but I never did much with it. I do not have the other things listed but I am willing to obtain them. Concerning the other things you mention I am justing wanting to make use of the software program that I had built for my mother so I open to discussing the terms of the partnership with whoever is interested in partnering with me.

Reply by Carolyn Bodley on 11/10/11 10:45pm
Msg #403538

hmmmm, Florida, Wyoming and now Colorado n/m

Reply by Cody on 11/10/11 4:04pm
Msg #403469

wyoming area code....interesting..

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 9:06pm
Msg #403527

that is where my company ESL Certified is ran- it was just put there because we did not have an address at the time.

Reply by Buddy Young on 11/10/11 6:13pm
Msg #403493

Doesn't sound like she has any notary experience or may not even be a notary.

That may be why she is looking for someone with experience.

Reply by Okechi Nobles on 11/10/11 9:40pm
Msg #403530

I appreciate everyone’s feedback . . even the silly ones. After reading all of the replies I must say that I was not expecting to be taken as a scam artist - that was the reason why I gave so much of my personal information. Anyway with everything consider I feel it would be best to just sale or rent the software program and/or site and this forum helped me to see that- thank you all.

Reply by MW/VA on 11/11/11 7:11am
Msg #403546

Some on the forum like to take a spin on something like this

Since there is no much internet spam & scams, a post like this is always suspect.
I feel your offer is sincere, and that you are just looking for someone experienced in this biz to partner with. As far as I know, you don't have to have a notary commission in order to run an ss. While I prefer the one's operated by someone who understands what we're up against, it isn't a requirement. Good luck! The timing to start up in this biz isn't exactly great.

Reply by BossLadyMD on 11/14/11 12:35pm
Msg #403877

It just doesn't pass the smell taste....

Any reasonable person who has invested $5000 in a business would definitely start out locally so as to minimize risk and help build a good working relationship (this will take TIME). Why throw out how much money you've invested unless you want the partner to also bring in that much? It just sounds like a pyramid scheme to me.

We all have invested thousands of dollars into our business (those who have been around 5 or more years!!).

If you cannot effectively and efficiently run the business, then sell it, don't partner. My .02