Posted by Dimitri on 11/9/11 11:42pm
Msg #403355

Need cheap training material ASAP

Hello!

I am looking for some type of eBook or other material someone might have on NSA. I am Notary but never performed loan signings before. If someone is willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it; and would reasonably compensate for your help.

Thanks!

Reply by Dimitri on 11/9/11 11:56pm
Msg #403357

I need to learn the basics of NSA by Tuesday. If someone can show me examples of documents NSA deal with, the purpose of documents, procedures, etc, I would greatly appreciate it. I can pay reasonable fee via PayPal. Thank you for helping !!!!

Reply by Dimitri on 11/10/11 12:01am
Msg #403358

I am in PA

Reply by HisHughness on 11/10/11 12:52am
Msg #403360

I'm sorry, Dimitri

Reply by HisHughness on 11/10/11 12:52am
Msg #403361

I don't have a manual

Reply by HisHughness on 11/10/11 12:53am
Msg #403362

So I can't help.

Reply by Dimitri on 11/10/11 1:05am
Msg #403363

Nice one.....You had to post in 3 different replies? I did that because this forum does not have an option to edit.....

Smart)

Reply by Buddy Young on 11/10/11 1:20am
Msg #403364

Take an online class to become a certified signing agent. You can do it before Tuesday.

Reply by Buddy Young on 11/10/11 1:29am
Msg #403365

Re: Hugh, your wit never ceases to amaze me. n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/10/11 5:27am
Msg #403366

My best advice - turn the job back THEN concentrate

on training as an NSA...once you have a better idea of what you're supposed to be doing THEN dive into loan signings - but if you're clueless about loan today?....well, then you're still gonna be clueless by Tuesday. And that is just so unfair to the borrowers AND to the company that hired you!!

And for the record - Hugh was kidding with you - my second best piece of advice today is you might want to refrain from biting the hand that you're asking to feed you.

Reply by desktopfull on 11/10/11 5:54am
Msg #403369

Google is your best friend, otherwise use orange search key

and read, read, and read more on this forum.

And you decided to take a loan closing without knowing anything, why? Your going to perform a service for someone where the borrower's will probably know more than you do about a closing. Iif you have a mortgage yourself I suggest you go through those docs and familarize yourself with those docs if you plan on completing the planned closing prior to knowing anything.

Reply by Notarysigner on 11/10/11 7:51am
Msg #403376

look up a notary in your area, give the job to them and

ask to go along. You will learn more by doing that then paying for a class by Tuesday. Of course pick the notary from here. imo

Reply by 101livescan on 11/10/11 9:50am
Msg #403406

You'd better serve the borrower and the lender, title and escrow to turn this back to someone with experience. You do not want to cut your teeth on something that could go very badly for the borrower, like a missed rate lock. Then, cull this forum's comments on how to become a solid, experienced LSA. Good luck to you. There is a wealth of information on this topic here.

Reply by Carolyn Breckenridge on 11/10/11 10:25am
Msg #403410

Also, if you do the closing the borrowers will sense that you are unfamilar with the documents. Immediately, they will not have any confidence in you. It has been my experience that you need to obtain their trust. It could be a long closing.

Reply by Stephanie Santiago on 11/10/11 11:37am
Msg #403418

Dimitri

Don't rush into a Signing assignment.
1.) Learn the Pennsylvania Notary Law completely.
2.) Complete many "General" notarizations prior to even thinking about becoming a Signing Agent.
3.) Once you are completely familiar with Pennsylvania Notary Law, then and only then explore the Notary signing business.
4.) It won't do you any good to take a crash course for a signing on Tuesday.

Dimitri - if you are going to become a Notary Signing Agent do it the correct way:
** Don't rush into it.
** Learn your state's notary law.
** Complete general notarizations.
*** You're not doing yourself any favors by rushing into this line of work.

"cool your jets....."

Stephanie

Reply by NJDiva on 11/10/11 1:12pm
Msg #403426

Dimitri

OMGosh! I got an anxiety attack when I started reading your posts.

Please I implore you, if you are inquiring about training, please tell me it's not for an actual closing on Tuesday without even a CLUE of this industry, the legal ramifications that you are agreeing to uphold, the risk (financial and legal penalties that include the possibility of incarceration or the loss of your notary commission at the very least.) you take in the event there are dire discrepancies or errors.

The fact is that you are not the only person that would be affected; there is
1) the bank
2) the borrower
3) the signing agency or title company (actually, come to think of it, who is the company that's hired you? I really don't want to know, but I'm sorry to say, I hope it's a lowballing, thieving one so that it'll push them one step closer to their demise. Many of the shady, unethical, thieving companies seek out new, unsuspecting notaries that haven't a clue they are being preyed upon and will not get paid.)
4) And MOST importantly OTHER NSA's and the INDUSTRY as a whole.

When inexperienced, unlearned, unaware, uninformed NSA's haphazardly "jump right in", it is a reflection on the whole industry as to the standard of NSA's out there. What, (IMO) will ultimately happen is that we will soon be a thing of the past because of the carelessness, many times unknowingly grave mistakes, that are more likely to be produced from those with (currently) inexperienced or inadequate educational qualifications.

NOW PLEASE know that I AM NOT INFERRING THAT just NEWBIES make careless or grave mistakes. We all have, or will make mistakes, but the fact is that chances are more likely that without some type of guidance, experience or knowledge, there is a higher probability of it occurring. Of course this is all my OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

Many of these situations you wouldn't have any idea without some kind of training, guidance or experience. I'm sorry, but I am not so sure that reading the "training" materials over the weekend is going to prepare you to be an effective NSA (IMO!!!!)

It APPEARS as if we are just putting the doc's in front of people and watching them sign, but, IMO-and those of many others-it's just not an accurate account of all the variables that can, have, and in many cases DO arise at the table.

So with all that said, I agree with the other experienced NSA's on this board; please reconsider irresponsibly accepting that assignment. It's not fair to ANYONE involved. I'm quite sure you will be an awesome NSA, but right now you are clearly not in a position to be considered an NSA and could very well cause more harm than good.

I hope you will continue to stay and become a part of this AMAZING site. You will ABSOLUTELY learn most of what could never be taught in the "books". There is knowledge here far beyond what I even considered or knew myself. Shoot I'm still learning!

As was mentioned use that Orange Search button. You are amongst the smartest, most loving, grouchiest, sometimes "hatinest"(oh boy can they get snippy...lol) people there are (takes all kinds to make up this world...tee hee), but I can assure you, you will appreciate the honesty, support, and knowledge you will inevitably be blessed with.

We are very lucky to have this site!!!

However, just one more thing, be prepared to not take things personally on here. You may have already noticed that you must be thick skinned when it comes to getting feedback. Many times it doesn't "COME FROM A LOVING PLACE." The tone, reflection and delivery seems offensive but just let it roll right off your back. And you may have to remind me of these words some day in the future...rofl

Reply by Karla/OR on 11/10/11 12:28pm
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Hi Dimitri~ I had only General Notary experience before taking the Notary Signing Agent Certification course. I thought the on-line part of the course was quite informative and the book that came with the course has good basic info in it to refer back to when needed. The course and certification test were easy, IMO. There are many places to take the certification test if you do a search for it.

I would NOT recommend taking any signing jobs until you have some education under your belt from the certification course and from this site via the Search button.

Also, partnering up with another signing agent in your area is priceless. I personally met with a local notary who not only answered a lot of my questions but refers jobs to me occasionally. It's hard to get signing companies to call you as a newbie, so this helps get you out there and get some experience under your belt.

My first few signings were scary as Hell, but I had good rapport with the borrowers and had no issues after returning the docs to the signing companies. I can ONLY imagine what could have happened had I not taken the initial steps to take the certification course, get help from local notaries, and research the info on this site.

Best of luck to you.

Karla

Reply by JulieD/KS on 11/10/11 11:54pm
Msg #403542

Re: cheap and ASAP

Since most everyone else has done a good job of explaining why trying to learn our industry by Tuesday is not a wise idea, I'm going to point out something else.

You want what we know and you want it fast and you want it cheap.
What I know and what I have, I didn't come by fast or cheap. I paid for my training not only in dollars, but in years and years of doing this for a living.

If you can't afford to pay for your own training without coming here and wanting us to provide it CHEAP, how in the world will you pay for the rest of the materials required to run a small business? The fax machine, computer, high-speed printer, toner replacements, legal-sized paper, Quickbooks for your invoices, and a professional tax preparer to prepare your small business tax return? Have you considered all of this?
Running a business isn't fast or cheap. It required lots of time and a hefty investment.
Do you have what it takes? If not, you'll be out before you get a good toehold.