Posted by pat/WA on 9/8/11 7:52pm
Msg #396789

All Star Title

I arrived at a signing tonight and was advised to abort the signing that All Star Title Documents can no longer be notarized in the state of Washington.

Reply by Jack/AL on 9/8/11 7:57pm
Msg #396790

Who advised you to stop? Which title company or SS hired you? What did the borrowers have to say? Just curious, but it really does not matter.

Reply by loancloser46 on 9/8/11 11:54pm
Msg #396845

Re: All Star Title from Maryland??? must be a mistake

I live in Maryland and close loans on a regular basis for All Star from Baltimore. First class organization who always pay at funding. I have worked with them for 7 years. If you are referring to the same company there must be some kind of misunderstanding. I have a family member who is employed at the Maryland Insurance Administration and says they have never had any complaints against them. I am always very happy when I see their number pop up on my phone. Good pay and quick pay, very nice people who work there too. I love them.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 9/8/11 8:11pm
Msg #396796

Not a slam against you Pat...but that makes no

sense at all - title docs can't be notarized in WA?? Huh??..

I hope you took all the docs with you when you left...and plan to invoice them for print and travel.

Reply by pat/WA on 9/8/11 8:29pm
Msg #396807

Re: Not a slam against you Pat...but that makes no

Yes, I picked up all my marbles (documents) and left. Another notary was there signing and I was told that he was signing for American Bank and that All Star title could no longer be signed in Washington State as of noon today.
I called the signing company that hired me and was told that was nonsense but to pack it all up and go home.

Reply by Ilene C. Seidel on 9/9/11 5:20am
Msg #396846

Re: Not a slam against you Pat...but that makes no

They must have lost their license to operate in Wa.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 9/9/11 5:27am
Msg #396847

I think part of what baffles me is - didn't the title

company know this when they initially got the file?? Why take it all the way to closing if you can't complete the loan and have no authority to work in the state??

And another thing - where'd that other notary come from?

Something just seems off to me ..

Reply by Les_CO on 9/8/11 8:26pm
Msg #396803

I’ve heard that too!
It seems that if Mercury is in retrograde, and Jupiter is not quite in the correct alignment (conjunction) with the other stars ( including 'all star') that it is illegal to notarize any documents in Washington State? Unless it’s done with a refundable plastic bottle? I wish someone would make this clear to the SOS, and to others trying to be in business for themselves in WA. It’s really very hard to remember all this stuff!

Reply by Susan Fischer on 9/8/11 9:05pm
Msg #396818

Sounds like they lost the authority to do business in WA. n/m

Reply by pat/WA on 9/8/11 9:45pm
Msg #396829

Re: Sounds like they lost the authority to do business in WA.

I am told this is all a big misunderstanding (mystery)

Reply by Les_CO on 9/8/11 9:57pm
Msg #396831

Re: Sounds like they lost the authority to do business in WA.

That’s what’s so confusing! Does that mean if I were a WA notary that I too would lose my State given authority to let’s say… notarize an affidavit? If it was in conjunction with documents prepared by them? (All Star) Am I now illegal as a WA commissioned notary because the stars, or that “all star” are now illegal? What happens if they come to other States? Are we all going to be illegal soon? This is so perplexing!!!

Reply by Susan Fischer on 9/8/11 10:17pm
Msg #396836

If you have knowledge that the docs of some company

aren't legal in your state, then you should lose your commission if you Notarize.

We don't know the facts.

Or maybe were you joking?

Reply by Les_CO on 9/8/11 10:44pm
Msg #396841

Re: If you have knowledge that the docs of some company

Joking? Not at all!
Susan, I’m not a commissioned notary in WA as you are…so I can’t determine who may prepare “legal” documents as apparently you can. You know one learns something every day by reading these posts. I didn’t know that WA State licensed SS. That’s good to know! I wish every State would do something similar. Then maybe we wouldn’t have illegal aliens, non-citizens, convicted felons, child molesters, and there like… starting, or having their girl friends starting an LLC as a Signing Service. What a laugh! One can run a SS from prison…and WE extend them credit…without any proof of being legitimate or credit worthy. Then when they don’t pay us we cry……Glad to hear WA makes it illegal to notarize documents that could be used in conjunction with or by unlicensed businesses.

Reply by Susan Fischer on 9/9/11 10:29am
Msg #396857

Les, I'm in Oregon, but that's beside the point. "Another

notary was there signing and I was told that he was signing for American Bank and that All Star title could no longer be signed in Washington State as of noon today."

My take on the post is that the TC is no longer able to do business in a state. If this is true, then any business conducted by that TC is not valid in that state, in this case, after a time certain.

If, on the other hand, the SS found a cheaper Notary to complete an assignment and made up some story, then it's a horse of a completely different color.

We don't know the facts, and I'd be interested to know the actual skinny.

(P.S. Your snark is uncalled for, Les, and your last sentence demonstrates a misunderstanding, inho.)

Reply by Fischlin - Tracy on 9/9/11 11:26am
Msg #396868

So is it true that we can't do signings in the state of WA for All Star Title?

Reply by Fischlin - Tracy on 9/9/11 11:28am
Msg #396869

Who advised you to abort the signing? and that All Star Title Docs can no longer be notarized in the state of WA?

Reply by Susan Fischer on 9/9/11 12:30pm
Msg #396879

Apparently it's all much ado about nothing. The OP's

app't was given to another Notary from what I gather from Pat's update.

We're all still confused about the whole frufaw.

Reply by pat/WA on 9/9/11 1:40pm
Msg #396888

Re: Apparently it's all much ado about nothing. The OP's

You are right. Much to do about nothing. Let it go

Reply by Fischlin - Tracy on 9/9/11 2:07pm
Msg #396891

Re: Apparently it's all much ado about nothing. The OP's

Well, last week I did two loan application signings here in WA from All Star Title company in Baltimore, MD. I did not notarize anything, just got signatures on loan application docs and fedex'd back to a credit union. I was told I'd get both loan signings in about a month with All Star Title, inc. Any suggestions?

Reply by Susan Fischer on 9/9/11 5:38pm
Msg #396927

Take the work, and don't sweat the petty stuff. There is

no story here.

Reply by All Star Title - Jason H. on 9/24/11 4:37pm
Msg #398547

Hi everyone, my name is Jason, I'm the owner of All Star Title in Baltimore, MD. I wanted to take a minute to clear up this signing in Washington. We regularly conducted business in Washington state, but as of the date of this closing, we were informed by our underwriter that Washington state is no longer allowing dual agents to handle closings there (several other states have done this as well). To further clear things up, we are not and were never licensed in Washington state. We conducted business through our underwriter and other licensed agents located in Washington state (this is very common place with most title companies doing business in many states).

We were informed that effective of that date of this signing, only 1 company could be involved (the local agent), so essentially we could no longer do business in Washington. We informed our clients and they canceled any pending transactions with us. We neglected to see however, that we already had this signing scheduled in Washington that day and obviously the notary went out as we scheduled with them (Pat - this was you, right?). We forgot to cancel this, that was our oversight.

Anyway, because earlier in the day we informed our clients (one of which being American Bank), that we were no longer doing business in Washington state, they went ahead and sent this order to another title company, who in turn used a signing service or contracted with a notary, and thats who was at the house when you got there.

The issue is not with any new notary guidelines or us losing a license, its with Washington state no longer allowing "dual" closing protection letters.

We have always provided what we feel is fair service and very prompt payment to our closers. In our opinion, the notaries we select are a direct reflection of All Star Title and we want our notaries to feel respected and part of our team. I think our 5 star rating on this site is evidence of that.

Pat - I trust by now you have received payment for your services but if not, please feel free to contact me directly at 1-800-580-0677 and I'll make sure it gets taken care of ASAP.