Posted by Calnotary on 4/27/12 10:48am
Msg #419126

Notary stamp with date/time of notarization

I received a call Yesterday asking to do a signing in my next county. "But it needs to be dated for Yesterday, please? the notary did not show, can you help us with this?"

You will not pay me enough so that I can break the law, she continued looking.

It will be a good idea that we have a notary stamp that will also stamp the date and time of notarization and all these request for backdating will be gone forever.

Reply by MW/VA on 4/27/12 11:00am
Msg #419133

Requests for backdating always seem to come with a sob

story like "notary didn't show". Not our problem--we don't backdate!

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 4/27/12 11:37am
Msg #419144

Not to mention the illegality from the NP aspect, but the

lender and title company are opening themselves up to a huge can of worms.
The years from now, borrower can't pay mortgage. Lender forecloses. Borrower lawyer says," Hey ,
your moretgage is no good. We did not get three days to cancel. Here is proof. Email of dox sent to notary public one day after dox were "signed and notarized"
Title co has insured validity of mortgage. Lender, TC AND NP are is deep s(tuff)

Reply by Frank/NC on 4/27/12 11:45am
Msg #419147

I've noticed more and more people getting into this business and a good number of them don't have a clue as to what they are doing. A lot of people are either out of work or under employed and attempt to do this. I believe the NNA propaganda of making $100,000 a year is at least, part of the problem. Even the postings on this as well as other sites indicate that notaries are asking the most basic questions. Not to say that new notaries shouldn't get into this field but you sure can tell, by the questions asked, who has done their homework.
In terms of backdating, in some cases if the Title companies can get away with it, why not? It's the notary who ends up with the problem.
Oh, by the way, forget about $100,000 a year.

Reply by Frank/NC on 4/27/12 11:46am
Msg #419148

This should have been posted below. I did a ready, fire, aim. Sorry.

Reply by VT_Syrup on 4/27/12 11:59am
Msg #419150

If we can't trust the notary to not backdate, we can't trust the notary not to incorrectly set the date and time device. So we would have to get the date and time printed by some trustworthy date-and-time service. This is available from some of the companies involved in public key infrastructure and other forms of electronic signatures. But wait, once an electronic document has been printed, there is no way to tell if the printed version has been altered. So the only way to have a notary seal with a trustworthy date and time is to forbid notarized paper document, and make electronic notarization not just allowed, but required.

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 4/27/12 5:20pm
Msg #419194

I actually n/m

Reply by FlaNotary2 on 4/27/12 5:20pm
Msg #419195

I actually saw a dated jurat stamp somewhere

Cant remember where.

Reply by VT_Syrup on 4/27/12 7:02pm
Msg #419204

Re: I actually saw a dated jurat stamp somewhere

Do you mean some weird hybrid contraption where you dial in the date, and both the jurat and the date are printed on the document? Surely you don't mean a stamp with a single date on it, which must be thrown away after one day.