Posted by Roger_OH on 6/2/12 1:33pm
Msg #422464

Anyone ever heard of this??

Was in my local FedEx store, and a clerk was advising a customer that it was a FEDERAL requirement that photocopies of IDs must be enlarged by 25%. I've never heard of, or had and TC/SS require this.

Comments?

Reply by Linda Juenger on 6/2/12 2:13pm
Msg #422465

No. I take what borrowers give me as long as pic and #'s are clear. If I take a pic of them, I print them wallet size to send in.

Reply by Lee/AR on 6/2/12 2:21pm
Msg #422466

Do remember reading that somewhere. Federal law--I dunno. Possible. What I read (source unremembered) was that it can't be the exact size/color. So b/w or enlarged (don't remember whatever I read having a specific %) would be OK.

Another 'law' (if, in fact, it is) that gets ignored.

Reply by Buddy Young on 6/2/12 2:24pm
Msg #422468

Re: Never heard of it! n/m

Reply by MW/VA on 6/2/12 2:44pm
Msg #422469

That's a new one, but it makes sense. I've heard that

the drug store chains won't make copies of ID. Also, military personnel have been told not to make copies of their ID, and I have some that won't. I guess in today's world of technology it's too easy to duplicate an ID.

Reply by Priscilla Witman on 6/2/12 2:58pm
Msg #422470

It is actually against gov't policy to make a copy of a

military ID. I can't remember exactly which policy at this moment, but I will find it. It is also wrong to surrender a military ID to anyone for the purpose of making a copy. I know this to be true because I was active duty a few years ago, and I still work for the Navy as a contractor. I will find the policy shortly.

Reply by Priscilla Witman on 6/2/12 3:07pm
Msg #422471

Here's the code.

18 U.S.C. 701 - Official badges, identification cards, other insignia

You can find the full code at www.gpo.gov. There are very few exceptions that can be made to this code.

Reply by jba/fl on 6/2/12 5:59pm
Msg #422478

Re: Here's the code.

This link does not give much info. Can actually get more from just googling the 18 U.S.C. 701 - Official badges, identification cards, other insignia
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2009-title18/pdf/USCODE-2009-title18-partI-chap33-sec701.pdf

Of course, right next to it is penalties for burning the flag of the US which is now, I thought, protected under free speech. Such contradictions one cannot fail to notice.

Reply by Priscilla Witman on 6/2/12 11:14pm
Msg #422496

It is somewhat ambiguous.

It's usually "discussed" as a part of a larger installation instruction, or covered under physical/operational security policies.

Reply by SharonMN on 6/4/12 2:59pm
Msg #422547

Re: Here's the code.

See *** clause below. I think this would cover a lot. For example, Form I-9 (eligibility to work in US) states that employers may photocopy the documentation they check. The PATRIOT Act is less clear, requiring that records be kept but not specifically authorizing photocopying as opposed to simply writing down the info from the ID.

§ 701. Official badges, identification cards, other
insignia
Whoever manufactures, sells, or possesses any
badge, identification card, or other insignia, of
the design prescribed by the head of any department
or agency of the United States for use by
any officer or employee thereof, or any colorable
imitation thereof, or photographs, prints, or in
any other manner makes or executes any engraving,
photograph, print, or impression in the
likeness of any such badge, identification card,
or other insignia, or any colorable imitation
thereof, ***except as authorized under regulations
made pursuant to law***, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than six months, or
both.

Reply by jba/fl on 6/4/12 3:36pm
Msg #422548

Re: Here's the code.

Subsequent code says $250. Then there is that tricky phrase: except as authorized....etc. So, how ambiguous can this be?

Reply by Ilene C. Seidel on 6/2/12 3:15pm
Msg #422472

http://www.ehow.com/list_7246253_documents-illegal-photocopy_.html
This is all I found

Reply by MikeC/TX on 6/2/12 5:35pm
Msg #422475

I noticed on that list that one allegedly can't make a photocopy of someone's driver license without their WRITTEN permission. If this is true (and I'm not sure it is, because the article doesn't cite a source for this), there's a whole bunch of us that have been breaking this particular rule for years...

Reply by jba/fl on 6/2/12 6:01pm
Msg #422479

All the more reason to insist that the BO make their own copies....

Now when I am asked to do so, I can cite case law to the hiring party...is that a good thing to do?

Reply by Luckydog on 6/2/12 7:18pm
Msg #422484

I think it's all going a little overboard. Watch out for the Fed Ex police now. Every closing I have been to, have never had an issue, eben if the bank making a copy or any place else. Who are they to police anything someone photo copies in a public machine? This world is getting too hung up on little things and not paying attention to things that really matter.

Reply by MikeC/TX on 6/3/12 4:48pm
Msg #422527

Here's the problem - there is no case law cited to support this. I guess you can do a stretch and include it under "intellectual property", but that's a heck of a stretch....

Reply by jba/fl on 6/2/12 5:43pm
Msg #422477

I wish you had a different citation as eHow is not the most credible source. They do not cite their source and provide no case law, etc. to back up their claims.

If I decide I want to write an article on how to do something, I can and then post to eHow and there is no one verifying the veracity of such.

Reply by jba/fl on 6/2/12 6:22pm
Msg #422480

Further searching provides the following:

6. Documents Illegal to Photocopy

U.S. Passports, naturalization certificates and other INS records, as well as vital statistics records from some States, sometimes bear a legend stating that these documents may not legally be photocopied. The following SSA certifiers have been granted permission to photocopy these documents for internal use only:

from: https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200301280

Everything else is Ask.com, wiki, etc. that I would not use as any kind of legal advice. Everyone appears to have an opinion, that's for sure.

Reply by BrendaTx on 6/3/12 7:07am
Msg #422502

jba - thank you for that reference. Good stuff.

The Texas SOS said that Texas notaries could not make notary certified copies of passports, then the office said that it could (most recent). I need to do a little research and Q&A on this. One thing about being a notary remains consistent -- there will always be conflicting information.

Reply by MW/VA on 6/4/12 1:49pm
Msg #422545

I completely understand those rules. Like many rules, they

don't necessarily work in the real world. I had a young woman who was applying for a teaching position in Spain. She was required to send certified copies of all her diplomas, transcripts, etc., & her Passport.

Reply by FXO_WA on 6/30/12 4:53pm
Msg #425221

As a FedexOffice employee, I can say that this employee was mistaken.

Our only policy regarding copying/scanning Governement issued ID's is, "Identification materials can only be copied for the owner of the materials or a legal guardian of the owner."

Employees sometimes confuse this with the regulations regarding currency (black and white, single sided, at either 75% or 150% of original size) as it is presented in the same paragraph.




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