Posted by Bert Gives on 10/26/12 6:56pm
Msg #440612

Administrative Procedure, Notorial procedure


Good Evening Everyone,

I wanted to inform all Notaries across the country, YES you are empowered to do a Notarial Process to assist homeowner from Bank Fraud and YES help your clients get their property back from Greedy Banks with FULLY EQUITY and NO MORTGAGE. I have been doing a Notarial Process fro 1 year now with tremendous results. They don't teach you this in class. If you want more if info, feel free to msg me or email me @ [e-mail address]. If you get this message we have conference calls on MON, Wed and Friday nights at 9pm EST @ 218 862 7200, Pin 700256#

Reply by rengel/CA on 10/26/12 6:58pm
Msg #440613

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM n/m

Reply by Bert Gives on 10/26/12 9:19pm
Msg #440633

Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

Good Evening

I notice you replied to my comments in regards to Admin procedure very negatively. I'm not surprises, however before you send such comments, I advise you to take a few minutes to llok up the subject. I was amazed that a notary could preform such a task, so I became EDUCATED on this subject and became move involved, I was truly amazed on how I can impact my community on which I served.

If you still doubt what im saying you can Google Admin procedure which was an act in 1933 then became law in 1946 under Pres Roosevelt. Also I can show you Reconveyances that I have done across the country. Were doing BIG things here in the NYC area and across the country.
I walk the walk and talk the talk, fell free to call me if you like so I can educate you on this important subject, have a great evening

Regards'
Bert Gives, Jr
Brooklyn, NYC

Reply by bfnotary on 10/26/12 10:16pm
Msg #440645

Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

should probably learn to spell....

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/26/12 7:02pm
Msg #440615

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! n/m

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/26/12 7:03pm
Msg #440617

Harry, please delete this guy's profile and block his

account.

Reply by rengel/CA on 10/27/12 9:19am
Msg #440713

Re: Harry, please delete this guy's profile and block his

Check his profile, he's not even a notary. And he can stop PM'ing me too

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/26/12 9:26pm
Msg #440635

You can quit sending me P/Ms

you said "I wanted to inform all Notaries across the country, YES you are empowered to do a Notarial Process to assist homeowner from Bank Fraud and YES help your clients get their property back from Greedy Banks with FULLY EQUITY and NO MORTGAGE. "

Maybe you HAVE been successful with this in NY - but this is NOT true nationwide..all notaries are NOT "empowered" to do this..in fact some states actually prohibit notaries from doing this - if you'd done the research as thoroughly as you said you did you'd know that.

Newbies, do not listen to this person..one size does not necessarily fit all. Research your own state laws and see if you ARE truly authorized to do this..then learn from your own SOS how to do it - not from this self-appointed mentor.

JMHO

Reply by Bert Gives on 10/29/12 12:49pm
Msg #441054

Re: You can quit sending me P/Ms

Listen, I don't want to into a verbal war with you, we all working for the cause, to help people.
what I said is true, you as a Notary can do Administrative Procedures and Notarial Process.

If you want to believe, yes by all means you can ;look up this information yourself.
I'm not a self appointed mentor, just knowledge in my craft and all I wanted to do is share my experiences and help Notaries across the country.

Instead of attacking me, and sending insults, i can be reached at 718 788 5435 in my office
Hopefully you done your research.

To Your Success
Bert

Reply by MW/VA on 10/26/12 9:32pm
Msg #440638

No advertising on the forum! ;-( n/m

Reply by PegiT_MN on 10/26/12 10:50pm
Msg #440649

Your Spelling And Grammar Are Atrocious!!!

No offense or anything Bert.....but I find it very hard to take you seriously when you have such horrible spelling and grammar. I can't even understand what you are trying to get us to do. None of this garble even makes sense to me.

Reply by docs1954CA on 10/26/12 10:58pm
Msg #440652

Anytime I see grammar and spelling errors like this,

It reminds me of those pesky Nigerian scam letters....Is this a side business for you?

Reply by ToniK on 10/26/12 11:41pm
Msg #440665

Im upset that

my orginal post didnt post when I commented on his horrible grammar. And I mentioned the Nigerian thing too. Hahahahaha that I was the only one who noticed that.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 10/27/12 1:54am
Msg #440680

Just report it: inappropriate; wrong info; advertising, etc. n/m

Reply by Bert Gives on 10/29/12 12:52pm
Msg #441056

Re: Your Spelling And Grammar Are Atrocious!!!

I'm sorry Pegit. I was typing so fast, i was very upset at the attacks I was receiving.
All I wanted to do is share some important information that I belive would be helpfully
to Notaries across the country.

Reply by VT_Syrup on 10/27/12 9:58am
Msg #440718

Since the original poster appears to be an active notary and not a drive-by spammer, I'll try to offer a substantial response, as best I can since I have never been asked to do this kind of stuff, and would steer clear if I was.

One activity that seems to be involved in this process is the notarial protest, which most states allow; it's in the Uniform Commercial Code (although each state adopts it's own version, so each state's version can vary slightly). The only instrument that is eligible for a protest is a negotiable instrument for money, such as a promissory note that starts with "Pay to the order of" or a check. The so-called negotiable instruments used by people trying to sneak out of debts and taxes are imaginary and have no basis in anything but wishful thinking.

Another activity amounts to verifying that certain information was placed in an envelope and mailed to a specified person or company. While this might actually be a useful activity, and there might even be some merit in having legislatures give this power to notaries, I have not yet heard of a state that authorizes this as a notarial act.

I would never take an acknowledgement from a person asking for these tax & debt sneak services because either the requester is involved in illegal activity, or the requester does not understand the nature of what he or she wants to acknowledge.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 10/27/12 10:11am
Msg #440722

Here from the OP...and this is the part that notaries should

NOT be involved in IMHO

"help your clients get their property back from Greedy Banks with FULLY EQUITY and NO MORTGAGE"

Also seen these attempted to dodge property taxes and federal income tax...

I steer clear - and strongly resent the pronouncement that "notaries nationwide are empowered to do this"...

No p/m's from the OP please.

Reply by MikeC/TX on 10/27/12 6:59pm
Msg #440835

Re: Here from the OP...and this is the part that notaries should

If this is a "notary protest" (which is what it sounds like, because there's nothing else that even comes close to what a notary can do in every state except maybe LA), you're not gonna get rich doing this in NY, which is where the OP is located. The maximum fee for a notary protest in NY is 25 cents, plus 10 cents for each of no more than three follow-ups. There's a reason for that - the whole concept of a notary protest is obsolete in today's financial world, and the NY legislature never got around to removing it from the list of things that a notary is authorized to do, so the fees have stayed as they were over 100 years ago..

If you actually google the "administrative procedure act", it's immediately obvious that this is just another take on the notary protest scam that has been used by "patriots" to try to avoid legitimate debts. The argument (if it can be called that) is probably that these agencies have somehow violated their own rules, and therefore there's some "process" where a protest can be made.

Any notary attempting to do this may be in violation of both federal and state laws - the best you could hope for when (not if) you get caught is the loss of your commission.