Posted by taffy on 10/10/12 4:30pm
Msg #437978

Elderly signings with no valid ID

Just had a call to do a POA signing with attorney & witnesses @ customers home. I reminded son to have her goverment id available when I got there this sat. He said oh, she hasn't driven in years. She's 81 and has parkinsons. She has bills and mail to prove who she is....i can probably find an old id somewhere.... Just curious, anyone else have this happen?

Reply by ikando on 10/10/12 4:40pm
Msg #437980

Yes, all the time. I've been working with the state legislature to come up with a solution to helping people in this situation be able to have some form of ID, but so far it's not been productive.

According to the SOS office, we are to obtain current ID from all signers of documents, however the statute does not specify what is acceptable, only that the notary be satisfied as to the signer's identity. I use my best discretion if an outdated ID is presented.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 10/10/12 5:04pm
Msg #437982

Credible Witness(es) anybody?

Az allows that.

Reply by Linda Juenger on 10/10/12 5:52pm
Msg #437984

Re: Credible Witness(es) anybody?

Witness has to be known by both the signer and notary in IL

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/10/12 6:41pm
Msg #437989

Re: Credible Witness(es) anybody?

THe other thing to consider is the Parkinson's. While not everyone with Parkinson's has the dementia, one you're aware of it, you should probably proceed with caution.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 10/10/12 7:36pm
Msg #437997

Re: Credible Witness(es) anybody?

Parkinson's is especially cruel because it affects motor skills, but may not affect mental capacity at all - just a person's ability to communicate. Every situation will be different, of course, but I agree that caution needs to be taken - for or against accepting the assignment.

Reply by sigtogo/OR on 10/10/12 6:59pm
Msg #437991

ID must be current to be valid source in my state. Does your

state offer a non-driver ID card? looks just like driver license. I wouldn't notarize without something current, unless as others have suggested, you are able to find credible witness. Maybe your state allows for something different?

Reply by taffy on 10/10/12 8:18pm
Msg #438002

Re: ID must be current to be valid source in my state. Does your

thank you for all the input. very helpful & much appreciated!

Reply by taffy on 10/11/12 12:06pm
Msg #438072

Re: ID must be current to be valid source in my state. Does your

yes. it offers free id cards for 65+ with no expiration The son keeps emailing me to say she is of sound mind, but her motor skills/speech are bad. He said they take her to church ~( so in my mind they could make a stop @ the DMV.) The attorney emailed to see what i will accept if she doesn't have any current id's.... hmmmm i don't think i'll be taking this one!

Reply by LKT/CA on 10/10/12 8:34pm
Msg #438005

Neither of my grandmothers nor my late mother-in-law drove, yet they maintained current state ID cards. In CA, there's no excuse for a senior to be without current ID because the state ID card is FREEEEE to seniors 62+ and valid for 10 years. The regular state ID card is valid for 6 years.

Yes, it may be a headache getting the elderly person to the DMV but with an appointment, it's ONE headache in TEN years.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/10/12 9:55pm
Msg #438019

Exactly!! I tell seniors all the time to get themselves to the DMV for an ID card. Many of them don't seem to realize they can do that, or that it's free....they just have to get themselves to the DMV once every 10 years.

Reply by Shoshana/AZ on 10/11/12 8:55am
Msg #438046

CA DMV might still have this program to come to homebound

people to help them get a state ID.

Reply by ikando on 10/11/12 9:32am
Msg #438053

Re: CA DMV might still have this program to come to homebound

Oklahoma also has a state non-driver ID available for free and non-expiring. The problem most people cite to me is that they "can't get to the DMV." I'm trying to get the legislature to find a way to provide the service to those who are homebound just for this reason.

Does any state have this service currently? If so, please let me know so I can reference it in my comments to the legislators.

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 10/11/12 8:21am
Msg #438044

Illinois provides a free ID card to those 65+ with NO

expiration.
In other words, the card does not expire until you do.

Reply by Jeanne Newton on 10/11/12 8:56am
Msg #438047

Would her Social security card work?

Reply by jba/fl on 10/11/12 9:14am
Msg #438050

@Jeanne: The one with her photo would. n/m