Posted by NVLSlady/VA on 4/12/13 9:44pm
Msg #465497
Lottery "Winners" (GNW)
Call for gnw: She was representing a group of mega jackpot players. They have some kind of a pool going. I asked Where'd they get the idea to get a notary. Explained I could acknowledge signatures (12 altogether). She said OK and all twelve will be present after Sun. church! Told her to make sure everyone has ID.
$3/signature?? then travel
I'll have to revise my standard ack to make room for all the names!
Think I can get "commission" from "winnings"??????
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/12/13 10:02pm
Msg #465499
Not sure about commission from winnings..
but you can't charge per signature...you can only charge per notarial act...
(§ 47.119,
§ 47.120)
By law, a notary is not required to charge a fee. However, he or she may charge up to $5.00 for each paperbased notarial act performed.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/12/13 10:05pm
Msg #465500
Sorry..forgot to add link
http://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/notary/NotaryHandbook.pdf
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Reply by jba/fl on 4/12/13 10:14pm
Msg #465504
I see a balloon, and I see a hatpin. The pin approaches... n/m
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Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 4/12/13 10:33pm
Msg #465506
pin approaches... I'd better bring the helium tank n/m
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Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 4/12/13 10:22pm
Msg #465505
Notarial act
Yes, that's an important distinction: Act (and, thus seal) vs. signature - especially as it relates to allowable fees! I'm reminded that the Handbook is my Friend  Thanks, Linda.
(commission part was a joke)
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Reply by Notarysigner on 4/13/13 10:03am
Msg #465524
Re: Notarial act
Well you can have 12 seperate ACKS. That way you wouldn't have to do any revision.
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Reply by Linda_H/FL on 4/13/13 11:57am
Msg #465539
Make more money too - $60 plus travel as opposed
to $3 plus travel.
JMO
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Reply by VT_Syrup on 4/13/13 7:21pm
Msg #465584
notarial act ≠ certificate
Common notarial acts include taking an acknowledgement and administering an oath. It would seem to me that for one document signed by several people, taking the acknowledgement of each person is a distinct notarial act, even if all those acts are memorialized in a single certificate. Likewise for oaths.
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Reply by VT_Syrup on 4/13/13 7:23pm
Msg #465585
Re: notarial IS NOT EQUAL TO certificate
The forum isn't too sharp about recognizing characters that aren't on an American typewriter keyboard.
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Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 4/13/13 10:49pm
Msg #465599
Re: notarial IS NOT EQUAL TO certificate
<<taking the acknowledgement of each person is a distinct notarial act, even if all those acts are memorialized in a single certificate.">>
And see this is where some get sidetracked in what is written, meant, etc. . . . I completely feel (emotionally) that that's true BUT who's to say the Act is embodied in the ONE certificate (or not)?
Seems more realistic that "may charge up to $5 for ea paper-based notarial act performed," is implied to mean the individual "acts" encompassing or making up the 1 ack . . . OR
I can't think this hard this time of night. Anyway the lotto churchgoers didn't call to confirm what their intentions were, so nada tomorrow.
(I DID like Linda's travel/convenience fee, though - Sun., too; but many would oppose. sigh)
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Reply by VT_Syrup on 4/14/13 9:58am
Msg #465616
Re: notarial act IS NOT EQUAL TO certificate
I consider the act of taking an acknowledgement to be listening to the signer as he/she tells me that he/she signed as his/her own free act and deed. Since each signer has to say this to me, there are as many acknowledgements as there are signers. Similarly, the act of administering an oath is asking the affiant if the document is true, and listening to the response. Since each affiant must say "yes", there are as many oaths administered as there are affiants.
I think the "paper-based" in the Virginia handbook is to distinguish paper notarizations from electronic notarizations; the fee allowed for electronic notarial acts is $25. I don't think it has anything to do with memorializing several acknowledgements or oaths in a single certificate.
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Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 4/14/13 7:18pm
Msg #465667
Re: notarial act IS NOT EQUAL TO certificate- Like!
You must have a legal background You can argue my case anytime
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