Posted by Jose Ramon Maestre on 12/5/13 12:59pm
Msg #495113

ANSA YOUR NEW NSA VOICE!!

Your voices have been heard. Please join me in the hope of providing an open forum. A place where your concerns will register with others in your specialty. A place where you can go for information. We welcome your input, good, bad, and your constructive criticism. No fees, dues, and the only requirement is that you are an NSA. We can use more members, we can use more volunteers. Our effort is to establish an organization that is around for years. We were formed because of the new standards and the SPW, but our goal is to be there for the NSA. We are not here to do battle with the NNA or SPW, but only to make sure your voice and input resonates with them. We have formally filed the paperwork for a non- profit organization, elected a board, and contributed countless hours of hard work to get this up and running. We have many sponsors, over 550 members to date and growing. We have members from many states, and individuals with a very diverse background all working on a great cause. So please take a minute, please go to the ANSA site, register, join our cause. You have nothing to lose, but much to gain, a voice for you the hard working independent business person and NSA!!
http://www.americannotarysigningagents.org

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 1:00pm
Msg #495114

Copy Kats... n/m

Reply by Darlin_AL on 12/5/13 1:03pm
Msg #495117

C. Rivera--wow, calling names already--wondere why? n/m

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 1:20pm
Msg #495123

Darlin, they know why... n/m

Reply by Amigoaz on 12/5/13 1:05pm
Msg #495118

Jose, I applaud what you & others are working on. You are working for the interest of notaries and signing agents. I appreciate those sincere efforts as opposed to the goal of sucking more revenue from notaries. Thank you!

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 1:09pm
Msg #495119

it says 30 members? n/m

Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 12/5/13 1:13pm
Msg #495120

That NSA thing still confuses me

<"the only requirement is that you are an NSA.">

NNA has joined forces with others who support the agenda of what they (the NNA) promoted/endorsed to begin with - <Years> ago.

Couldn't I call myself an nsa if I sign One loan/real estate doc a year?

Maybe the thought behind my question is how will the ANSA (which I "joined") SEPARATE itself from the pack?

Somewhere on LinkedIn, Renee's (MI) post said it better: "How will more of the same be Different somehow?"

<"our goal is to be there for the NSA"> Please Expound (Oh, Lord give me strength . . .)

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 1:19pm
Msg #495121

disappointing... n/m

Reply by Jose Ramon Maestre on 12/5/13 1:31pm
Msg #495126

Re: That NSA thing still confuses me

We only verify that you are a notary, that is why we ask for your name as it appears on your commission. If you only do 1 signing then yes you are an NSA, you may have a certification or in the process of obtaining a certification. The fact that you were commissioned, passed a BGC by your state. We were all "newbies" "rookies" at one time and i am sure remember how hard it was to get an answer on a signing issue, or doc. This is what we are trying to accomplish.

Reply by JPH13/MO on 12/5/13 1:37pm
Msg #495130

MO and KS don't require background cks n/m

Reply by Jose Ramon Maestre on 12/5/13 1:42pm
Msg #495131

Re: MO and KS don

Only reason i included that was most states do. That is not going to disqualify you from being a member. We just want your input and want to be there if you need a source of information, want to bounce off ideas, concerns, or contribute in an effort to help other NSA's ,rookies, or vet's.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/5/13 1:50pm
Msg #495133

Most states do NOT....

...in fact, require a background check to become a notary. In fact, the majority do NOT. They only require a notary to sign, under penalty of perjury, that they aren't convicted felons. That's nowhere near the same as performing a criminal background screening... or like we deal with in CA, fingerprinting and being screened through the FBI.

Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 12/5/13 2:27pm
Msg #495140

Re: Most states do NOT....

Exactly (as Marian said).

No more than signing a loan made me an nsa (got certified with Direct Closers later)

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/5/13 1:47pm
Msg #495132

Here's my issue with this organization....

This is all constructive criticism here, not meant to demean anyone. They insist on being anonymous. That lacks all credibility in my eyes. Anonymity isn't going to get you anywhere if you want to make any progress. You need the face and voice of well respected notaries in the industry willing to put themselves out there and endorse it. I would never register at that site when most of the pages are password protected, there is no actual contact information on the contact page, no content as to who or what they really do. Plus... and again, just constructive criticism here... the website looks pretty amateurish. As a notary, I go to that site and I think... hmm... nope. There's nothing there that speaks to me or makes me want to ge tinvolved.

And on the main page all they do is use industry jargon/acronyms. On the list of people they are looking for they add, "A private investigator with access to a database." WHY in the world do they need that?

Reply by CarolF/NC on 12/5/13 2:27pm
Msg #495139

Here's My 2 Cents on ANSA

I put the "Private Investigator with access to a Database" on the site. Yes I did this when myself and 30 other people were working to get a webpage up, before Carol Ray, Jose and their group took it from all of us. And I did it because it would be a good tool to keep people like the NNA and others we would prefer not have access to our work product.

They appear anonymous because many of them are NSA's (personally I prefer SA's) and they do not want to jeopardize their business relationships.

I worked to get ANSA up and running. It is part my baby that was taken from me.

If the people behind the group now have the same altruistic intent to create a national organization that works on behalf of SA's without profit, then it's still a good idea.

What I would like to see is Carol Ray and her daughter Barbara out of the organization and involvement. I'm not certain I trust Jose at this point either. Not sure about some guy James they have working with them either. But, I do think there are a few people involved with that organization that are trustworthy.

I don't personally know Carol Ray, but based on the many, many phone calls and emails I've received it's just bad perception to have someone who runs a business associated with the organization. She advertises it as "My Site."

Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 12/5/13 2:33pm
Msg #495142

web design

Carol, James is the web guy - and is very Visible here on NR!

Funny, when he sent me the pw, I thought they were using one of our VA notaries, J.D (who happens to be a programmer/analyst).

Then, I realized it WAS J.D./James Dawson (not the same one)!

Reply by Roger_OH on 12/5/13 2:31pm
Msg #495141

I'm with you, Marian...

I need to see a formal mission statement, Articles of Incorporation, listing of board members/officers, and the IRS approval letter for tax-exempt status; I hope it's for a 501c6 organization and not 501c3 - the former is for nonprofits engaged in lobbying.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 2:42pm
Msg #495145

Carol...sorry to see you've been robbed...I'd do something

about it legally.

If you and the others are no longer part of that organization they should not be using ANY form of your and the others original work!

Also WHY Jose are you "Advertising" here...big no no...

Reply by Jose Ramon Maestre on 12/5/13 2:49pm
Msg #495149

Re: Not Advertising

I am not advertising anything, We are not selling anything, no notary supplies, no E&O, no educational products, not collecting dues. I am a paying member of Notary Rotary. I purchase my supplies, E&O, BGC from Notary Rotary. I have been a member of Notary Rotary since 2005. I rarely post anything to this forum. If you do not like my post that is your privilege. There are many opinions on issues here, just offering another forum.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 2:53pm
Msg #495151

Advertising is advertising. ..why don't you see others

doing the same ? Cuz HERE its considered advertising. Otherwise this forum would be inundated with save this n that cause...or group...imo.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 2:56pm
Msg #495153

besides your on many other forums where you can ask for

recruits....

Strange how you are the only speaking out? Where's the rest of the group? Hiding? Why?

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/5/13 2:46pm
Msg #495146

I'm willing to get involved prior to being official...

I'm all for joining a group of people trying to create a proper organization, even prior to officially obtaining non-profit status. BUT... it just seems to me that hiding and blindly recruiting seems...off... to me somehow, like it lacks the proper business sense and leadership. I'd want to know who I was working with, who was just plain running things and what their qualifications are. That doesn't mean that it's not a good group or that their intentions aren't in the right place... it's just not sitting right with me personally.

We shouldn't be afraid of damaging business relationships. If something is that important to you, SPEAK UP. Be willing to put your name out there and stand up for something. I am... I have been all over the NNA about the SPW group. I don't do it blindly. They know exactly who I am and what I stand for. Shoot, they have even tried to get me to work for them on multiple occasions, despite that. Speaking up with authority and, experience and knowledge gets your voice heard. Staying anonymous, IMO, just isn't going to get anything done.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 2:49pm
Msg #495150

agreed... n/m

Reply by Jose Ramon Maestre on 12/5/13 2:40pm
Msg #495144

Re: Here

I posted here using my NAME, not an alias, not avoiding anyone. I post regularly on many
Linkedin sites. Many NSA's know me. I have no other purpose or anything to gain by this.
No one is making anyone join or requiring you to join. The decision is solely up to you.
Everyone makes a point of complaining about the issues, but to date i have yet to see any other group move as far as we have in as short amount of time as we have. If anyone has a better plan or idea by all means, Amen to you, good luck and lets all move forward for the same cause.
WE do have the voice of many well respected notaries and individuals in title agencies. This is not the only forum.

Reply by MW/VA on 12/5/13 2:56pm
Msg #495152

Ok folks. IMO here's the deal. It's a new organization &

you can get on board or not, your choosing.
Also, these claims of it being stolen from someone else isn't helping anyone either, IMO. We should all be concerned with a common goal, not the semantics, IMO. There's no fee to join, so no one stands to gain, right?
I've heard everyone express that they want to see us "united", but that doesn't happen in reality. The NNA has gained so much power because they are ORGANIZED & have the financial backing to carry it through.
That's my .02, and I really don't want to engage in any non-productive arguments about who did what.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 2:59pm
Msg #495155

the folks that will gain from this are the ones whose names

will come out in the end when their ugly selves n true intentions are eventually revealed. God don't like ugly I always say n believe!

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 12/5/13 3:02pm
Msg #495160

Re: Ok folks. IMO here

I'm with you there, Marilyn. I want to see something organized and productive. I'm ALL FOR IT.

I just have some reservations about that group, at this point in time and am not comfortable being a part of something that claims to have 500+ members but is still trying to hide. I understand if it were still a small group of people trying to organize things and discuss. But over 500?? At that point, the organization should be in place and a lot more information should be visible/transparent, IMO.

A group of 500+ notaries united won't go unnoticed. Shoot, just a handful of notaries here at NotRot have done pretty awesome things over the years when things popped up.

Reply by C. Rivera Chicago Notary Services on 12/5/13 3:06pm
Msg #495163

Re: Ok folks. IMO here

This is true...very effective in taking down notary bashing websites! Ahhh da good ole days!

Reply by NVLSlady/VA on 12/5/13 3:11pm
Msg #495167

Good post, Marilyn. A new "networking" organization

that will eventually (if people work together) Become all the things it desires.
For now, networking toward a goal is the whole point. I'm not an ANSA spokesperson. The spokesperson
spoke in his OP and there was absolutely NOTHING anonymous about it. Furthermore, his post seems to be "advertising" a probable workaround Solution to SPW who everybody keeps talking against!

If we were all "on the same page" we'd be running toward something workable instead of saving the "good" and commendable comments for those whom we like . . . AND not Advertising for SPW all day, every day, all minute long!

I need a nap

Reply by MW/VA on 12/5/13 3:07pm
Msg #495164

While I appreciate this, I also think it's a good idea not

to use NR as an advertising platform. While not in competition, it still is creating a stir on this forum that is creating more controversy that we don't need at this point in time, IMO.