Posted by Calnotary on 12/20/13 6:31pm Msg #496791
Security Guard and taken your picture...
I went to a warehouse to sign one of the executives there for his home purchase loan.
I got in to security and the guard ask for my name and company name to entered in to his computer and then he directed me to look in to the camera for a photo. I told him that he was not taking a picture and he said if I don't agree that I wasn't allowed in the building. I stepped outside and called my signer and he came over and took me inside without picture taken after he talked to security.
I don't have nothing to hide but I don't like my picture in their system. What would you do in this case?
I have signed superior court judges in their offices and I just need ID and Xray my briefcase. I may be videotaped but who knows.
| Reply by SC/CA on 12/20/13 6:48pm Msg #496792
I did a signing at a nuclear power plant, and was searched, wore a hazmat suit, hardhat, safety glasses, and was escorted by 2 armed guards. I pulled-out my digital camera and had my picture next to the guards. It was a riot ! I even got a demonstration from the main engineer (who was also the borrower) on how fuel rods work, including mock-up demos. A glowing experience to last lifetimes ! :-)
| Reply by LKT/CA on 12/20/13 6:53pm Msg #496793
For a company, I personally don't mind their Security adding me to their system. Makes it much easier to "check in" when going there to notarize. Now an individual, like some homeowner I'm scheduled to do their loan signing, and they want a photo, or to see my DL - NO!! I prefer they call the police (non-emergency) as I will show my DL to a police officer, but not some homeowner. Yes, I have their info and am ENTITLED to have it as I was hired for the signing and I'm a state officer.
| Reply by Rita Adu on 12/21/13 4:13am Msg #496823
I just make the assumption that my picture is everywhere anyway. Kind of like that "Big Brother Thingy". My full time job is in Washington, DC and you can't walk 10 feet without looking up and saying "CHEESE".
| Reply by 101livescan on 12/21/13 7:11am Msg #496833
!Guard and taken your picture...
I try to mind my manners. There are 60 cameras installed all around the Santa Barbara Courthouse.
All our parking garages and elevators have security cameras, not just liquor stores, cash registers in every retail store, even the 101 has a few cams monitoring flow of traffic.
Some estates I go to have security cameras installed at the front gate, front entry door, in the house in main areas. Our hospital in SB has security guards and cameras everywhere, ever since some crazy woman walked out with a baby in a shopping bag a few years ago.
Shoot, gotta smile all the time, and don't be scratching your A$$ or picking your nose. As Allen Funt said, Smile, you're on candid camera! This was America's first televised reality show and the most watched!
| Reply by Notarysigner on 12/21/13 8:20am Msg #496836
I went to a county hospice care facility and
had to do the same thing. They printed out a visitor badge with that picture and my name. If figured it would allow me to leave....since none of the patients had a badge!
| Reply by CJ on 12/21/13 10:46am Msg #496844
I would have done it.
If they want to clutter up their computer with my picture, so what. I'm a ham anyway.
| Reply by sueharke on 12/21/13 3:49pm Msg #496866
Re: I went to a county hospice care facility and
I like that idea for the protection of the patients and their property. If my family were in such a situation, I would not object to such a security policy.
| Reply by Wendy/OH on 12/21/13 4:06pm Msg #496871
I think the cavalier responses to a potential invasion of privacy and God knows what else, is indicative of why this country has been allowed to become the surveillance state that it is now. When we start rationalizing that the overall good outweighs the individual's rights we are lost. Some are going to disagree vehemently so I preface my remarks with -just look at history and IMHO.
| Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 12/21/13 7:17pm Msg #496874
Completely agree with CalNotary
I realize we're on candid camera at stores, hospitals, sidewalks, government buildings, etc. This is all for the public good (think Boston Bombers), but when we actually have a choice to be photographed or not, particularly when we have nothing to do with the location where we're at, insofar that we're there strictly as a notary meeting someone in a nonpublic location, I would politely decline. We have very little privacy anymore, and I'm OK with that, but why agree to put yourself out there via a photo in a nonpublic system that has nothing to do with you? You never know what they're going to do with it .... where it might it up ... for what purpose. If something happened while you were there, you and your photo likely would be considered as a possible ... I don't know what ... but nothing good would ever come of it. If you were there as a person doing business with the warehouse, then sure, you'd be obligated to be photographed ...but you were there on a private matter for some executive. Totally out of line and inappropriate to be captured on their security system, and I think you chose the wise route. There have been several times when signing at people's private offices (Intel, PacBell, and even little ones) that security has demanded to see my ID. No go. They get my business card. Fact is, I have never carried my DL in my notary bag. I strongly feel we are there to ID people, not the other way around.
| Reply by jba/fl on 12/22/13 7:07pm Msg #496918
I've been thinking that throughout this thread which means everyone who has posted prior to me (I read lineal so I don't miss a thing). People are so afraid of each other - everyone is suspect. Everyone is ready to say protect me, strip me of my rights in the process and then I will be safe. I also think: want to be safe? go to jail.
| Reply by Darlin_AL on 12/21/13 8:18pm Msg #496877
to visit at Children's Hospital they take your pic & you
wear it and the child you're visiting is logged in the system, onto your picture id. Cannot get into the ward w/out being checked and double-checked as to who you're visiting(until they recognize you coming back from the cafeteria, for example.. Did not mind at all--very happy to see so much care for the sick babies safety & security.
| Reply by Luckydog on 12/22/13 6:15pm Msg #496917
This happens all the time in South Florida. You cannot even enter a hospital or family planning with your ID and Picture taken and placed on a badge. All these corporate business centers do this. In this day and age of people coming into places and doing mass shootings, I am glad they have a record of everyone who enters. I have and see no problem with this. Even entering a gated community, which 90% are down here, they take you license down and you are on camera filming your license plate and photo. Palm Beach Island takes a picture of every driver's license who enters the city, records how long you stay, searches for warrants on a nationwide data base. If their is a problem, they know exactly where you are and will arrest you. Everything on camera there. You are warned that if you do not like it, do not enter. 2 ways on and 2 ways off. If there is a crime, the draw bridges raise, and you are stuck there period. Needless to say, probably one of the safest places to live if you can afford it. Big Brother is everywhere where people have money.
| Reply by MikeC/TX on 12/23/13 1:05am Msg #496928
In today's society, it's really not that big a deal. What are they going to do with your picture? It's not like they can't get it from other sources if they really needed to.
| Reply by TJS/CT on 12/23/13 9:32am Msg #496947
I manage the information desk at our hospital full time and obtaining an ID or taking a picture of visitors is standard operating procedure. We take the same stance, if you don't want to have your pic taken or give an ID you may not visit. They may try to squabble about it, but no one refuses because they all want to see their loved ones. It always seems to me that I would be comforted by the fact that everyone is screened and that security staff know who is in the hospital at any given moment. I can tell you that we have solved alot of "issues" by having this information. If that system is anything like the system we use at our facility, the information gathered is purged monthly.
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