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Posted by 101livescan on 2/24/13 8:50am
Msg #457423

While dining, sat next to ex Countrywide Wholesale Lending

processor who worked there in Simi Valley for five years, then left when things slid down hill. She said the CEO of the company would walk up and down the aisles every morning cheering everyone one to get out there and hustle for every loan they could find, and write on a whiteboard the Goal number they were to attain that day.

I remember getting calls from CW recruiters while I was a loan officer at RBC Mortgage trying to hire me away to CW in SB...they were drafting 1000s of LOs to originate as many loans as they could, of course, no qualifying, only a pulse was needed.

I thoroughly reminisced, not in a good way, with this lady who told me how many scores of employees got caught up in the momentum of Angelo Mazulo's scheme, and how badly it all turned out. She got her old job back at Universal Studios and was elated to leave CW.

Can you believe this man is not behind bars? And others like him? And every package we sign now is the product of all their fraud and manipulation of the market. Most borrowers today have the same conversation with me. We can't believe all the hoops we had to go through to get this loan, how much paperwork we had to submit, how long it took, how much detail, the value they gave to our home, how poor the appraisal work was, how suspicious they are of us, we've been paying our mortgage on time for 30 years? We just want a lower rate!

De ja vu!

Reply by JanelWI on 2/24/13 10:20am
Msg #457435

Yes, I can believe he is not behind bars....sounds like the typical operations to me. Deflection. We have seen this even through our media...they make it sound as if the evil homeowners just got themselves in over their heads by getting loans they could not afford so now we will make it harder for them to get loans. Meanwhile the news ticker below has the real story. They deflect our attention from the real source through buzz words, mis-information, half truths and plain outrageous lies that people begin to believe if given enough time to drill it in. Congratulations, we are the sheeple in their eyes! Highly expendable and we are reproducing more and more every year. A never ending supply of potential money makers to manipulate and control. The sad fact is the Mazulo's of the world feel they are anointed and special somehow for being "Them" and not "You". They do not see that it is only their money between them and "will work for food". Once you have all the money in the world and zero accountability what else is there? Power and control.

So, individuals like Mazulo are powerful because they hold vast amounts of wealth and are connected with individuals and corporations with the same value set from government on down. We mean very little to people like this. It is a well connected plan that gives very little back to the hard workers that support the whole system. Yet, they would have you believe THEY are the ones doing YOU the favor. Very few try to upset this twisted sense of order out of fear of losing the little they have.

Think about what we do that drains money from our pocketbooks that does not have a financial firm or bank involved the world over.They profit even in the most flagrant and egregious of times and have no empathy beyond the warm feelings their rising profit margins give them. This behavior then becomes like a disease. Those who are wronged or cheated become the cheaters. Actions begin to reflect leadership and then the whole social economic foundation become so riddled with holes, problems and issues that the source of what created it is so far gone we start turning on each other. This cycle repeats and repeats. All one has to do is read their history. The time and faces have changed, but their methods have not.

This status quo will never change unless the value placed on "life", not only now, but for the future generations to come, again outweighs a simple piece of paper. Or at the very least, if this is not the entire answer, it is a very good place to start.



Reply by Stamper_WI on 2/24/13 3:42pm
Msg #457496

I remember reading that Mazzillo formed a new company. Right after he walked from any criminal wrongdoing. He was buying his old CW loans back for pennies on the dollar. It was called Penney" something.
In otherwords he set himself up to prosper from his own bad loans.

Reply by 101livescan on 2/24/13 6:45pm
Msg #457540

PennyMac, located in Moorpark, and Flagstar sells some of their loans to them...alive and thriving and I just found some "employee reviews" of the company.




“Countrywide made their money on the way up, and as Penny Mac they are making 4x on every one's misery.”


Pros – Penny Mac and the FDIC, Black Rock, and ex-Countrywide President keep by distress loans that Countrywide was responsible for 1/4 of them. This means there are a lot of leads to call.

Cons – The lending side is as incompetent as you can imagine. They were recently put on supervision by Freddie Mac. They did about 30 loans, 3 were by back, or had to sold somewhere else, and Freddie wouldn't by 4. This is a 23% delinquency. I don't think Countrywide hit 10% and they were pretty much shut down.

Advice to Senior Management – CEO should get a whole new experienced FHA and Conforming Team in there, and get rid everybody else. Their correspondent side did almost $1 billion. Have the people that run that side find a conforming originator and buy it.


Reply by Stoli on 2/24/13 10:29am
Msg #457436

Mazulo wasn't alone...

People at the heart of the economic/financial services industry meltdown...
The worst economic turmoil since the Great Depression is not a natural phenomenon but a man-made disaster in which we all played a part. In the second part of a week-long series looking behind the slump, Guardian City editor Julia Finch picks out the individuals who have led us into the current crisis

Julia Finch, with additional reporting by Andrew Clark and David Teather
The Guardian, Sunday 25 January 2009
Article history

Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who backed sub-prime lending. Photograph: Mark Wilson/Getty Images
Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
Only a couple of years ago the long-serving chairman of the Fed, a committed free marketeer who had steered the US economy through crises ranging from the 1987 stockmarket collapse through to the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was lauded with star status, named the "oracle" and "the maestro". Now he is viewed as one of those most culpable for the crisis. He is blamed for allowing the housing bubble to develop as a result of his low interest rates and lack of regulation in mortgage lending. He backed sub-prime lending and urged homebuyers to swap fixed-rate mortgages for variable rate deals, which left borrowers unable to pay when interest rates rose.
For many years, Greenspan also defended the booming derivatives business, which barely existed when he took over the Fed, but which mushroomed from $100tn in 2002 to more than $500tn five years later.
Billionaires George Soros and Warren Buffett might have been extremely worried about these complex products - Soros avoided them because he didn't "really understand how they work" and Buffett famously described them as "financial weapons of mass destruction" - but Greenspan did all he could to protect the market from what he believed was unnecessary regulation. In 2003 he told the Senate banking committee: "Derivatives have been an extraordinarily useful vehicle to transfer risk from those who shouldn't be taking it to those who are willing to and are capable of doing so".
In recent months, however, he has admitted at least some of his long-held beliefs have turned out to be incorrect - not least that free markets would handle the risks involved, that too much regulation would damage Wall Street and that, ultimately, banks would always put the protection of their shareholders first.
He has described the current financial crisis as "the type ... that comes along only once in a century" and last autumn said the fact that the banks had played fast and loose with shareholders' equity had left him "in a state of shocked disbelief".
Politicians
George W Bush, former US president

Clinton might have started the sub-prime ball rolling, but the Bush administration certainly did little to put the brakes on the vast amount of mortgage cash being lent to "Ninja" (No income, no job applicants) borrowers who could not afford them. Neither did he rein back Wall Street with regulation (although the government did pass the Sarbanes-Oxley Act in the wake of the Enron scandal).
Senator Phil Gramm

Former US senator from Texas, free market advocate with a PhD in economics who fought long and hard for financial deregulation. His work, encouraged by Clinton's administration, allowed the explosive growth of derivatives, including credit swaps.
In 2001, he told a Senate debate: "Some people look at sub-prime lending and see evil. I look at sub-prime lending and I see the American dream in action."
According to the New York Times, federal records show that from 1989 to 2002 he was the top recipient of campaign contributions from commercial banks and in the top five for donations from Wall Street. At an April 2000 Senate hearing after a visit to New York, he said: "When I am on Wall Street and I realize that that's the very nerve centre of American capitalism and I realize what capitalism has done for the working people of America, to me that's a holy place."
He eventually left Capitol Hill to work for UBS as an investment banker.


Wall Street/Banker crooks
Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist

The "perpetual bull". Once rated one of the most powerful women in the US. But so wrong, so often. She failed to see previous share price crashes and was famous for her upwards forecasts. Replaced last March.
Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's

The credit-rating agencies were widely attacked for failing to warn of the risks posed by mortgage-backed securities. Kathleen Corbet ran the largest of the big three agencies, Standard & Poor's, and quit in August 2007, amid a hail of criticism. The agencies have been accused of acting as cheerleaders, assigning the top AAA rating to collateralised debt obligations, the often incomprehensible mortgage-backed securities that turned toxic. The industry argues it did its best with the information available.
Corbet said her decision to leave the agency had been "long planned" and denied that she had been put under any pressure to quit. She kept a relatively low profile and had been hired to run S&P in 2004 from the investment firm Alliance Capital Management.
Investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the New York attorney general among others have focused on whether the agencies are compromised by earning fees from the banks that issue the debt they rate. The reputation of the industry was savaged by a blistering report by the SEC that contained dozens of internal emails that suggested they had betrayed investors' trust. "Let's hope we are all wealthy and retired by the time this house of cards falters," one unnamed S&P analyst wrote. In another, an S&P employee wrote:
"It could be structured by cows and we would rate it."
"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group

Now aged 83, Hank - AKA Maurice - was the boss of AIG. He built the business into the world's biggest insurer. AIG had a vast business in credit default swaps and therefore a huge exposure to a residential mortgage crisis. When AIG's own credit-rating was cut, it faced a liquidity crisis and needed an $85bn (£47bn then) bail out from the US government to avoid collapse and avert the crisis its collapse would have caused. It later needed many more billions from the US treasury and the Fed, but that did not stop senior AIG executives taking themselves off for a few lavish trips, including a $444,000 golf and spa retreat in California and an $86,000 hunting expedition to England. "Have you heard of anything more outrageous?" said Elijah Cummings, a Democratic congressman from Maryland. "They were getting their manicures, their facials, pedicures, massages while the American people were footing the bill."
Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss

So highly respected, so admired and so clever - top of his 800-strong class at Harvard - but it was his strategy, adopted from the Bank of Scotland when it merged with Halifax, that got HBOS in the trouble it is now. Who would have thought that the mighty Halifax could be brought to its knees and teeter on the verge of nationalisation?
Sir Fred Goodwin, former RBS boss

Once one of Gordon Brown's favourite businessmen, now the prime minister says he is "angry" with the man dubbed "Fred the Shred" for his strategy at Royal Bank of Scotland, which has left the bank staring at a £28bn loss and 70% owned by the government. The losses will reflect vast lending to businesses that cannot repay and write-downs on acquisitions masterminded by Goodwin stretching back years.
Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss

Once upon a time Bradford & Bingley was a rather boring building society, which used two men in bowler hats to signify their sensible and trustworthy approach. In 2004 the affable Crawshaw took over. He closed down B&B businesses, cut staff numbers by half and turned the B&B into a specialist in buy-to-let loans and self-certified mortgages - also called "liar loans" because applicants did not have to prove a regular income. The business broke down when the wholesale money market collapsed and B&B's borrowers fell quickly into debt. Crawshaw denied a rights issue was on its way weeks before he asked shareholders for £300m. Eventually, B&B had to be nationalised. Crawshaw, however, had left the bridge a few weeks earlier as a result of heart problems. He has a £1.8m pension pot.
Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss

Applegarth had such big ambitions. But the business model just collapsed when the credit crunch hit. Luckily for Applegarth, he walked away with a wheelbarrow of cash to ease the pain of his failure, and spent the summer playing cricket.
Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive

The credit crunch had been rumbling on for more than a year but Lehman Brothers' collapse in September was to have a catastrophic impact on confidence. Richard Fuld, chief executive, later told Congress he was bewildered the US government had not saved the bank when it had helped secure Bear Stearns and the insurer AIG. He also blamed short-sellers. Bitter workers at Lehman pointed the finger at Fuld.
A former bond trader known as "the Gorilla", Fuld had been with Lehman for decades and steered it through tough times. But just before the bank went bust he had failed to secure a deal to sell a large stake to the Korea Development Bank and most likely prevent its collapse. Fuld encouraged risk-taking and Lehman was still investing heavily in property at the top of the market. Facing a grilling on Capitol Hill, he was asked whether it was fair that he earned $500m over eight years. He demurred; the figure, he said, was closer to $300m.
Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin

Cioffi (pictured) and Tannin were Bear Stearns bankers recently indicted for fraud over the collapse of two hedge funds last year, which was one of the triggers of the credit crunch. They are accused of lying to investors about the amount of money they were putting into sub-prime, and of quietly withdrawing their own funds when times got tough.
Lewis Ranieri

The "godfather" of mortgage finance, who pioneered mortgage-backed bonds in the 1980s and immortalised in Liar's Poker. Famous for saying that "mortgages are math", Ranieri created collateralised pools of mortgages. In 2004 Business Week ranked him alongside names such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs as one of the greatest innovators of the past 75 years.
Ranieri did warn in 2006 of the risks from the breakneck growth of mortgage securitisation. Nevertheless, his Texas-based Franklin Bank Corp went bust in November due to the credit crunch.
Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products

Cassano ran the AIG team that sold credit default swaps in London, and in effect bankrupted the world's biggest insurance company, forcing the US government to stump up billions in aid. Cassano, who lives in a townhouse near Harrods in Knightsbridge, earned 30 cents for every dollar of profit his financial products generated - or about £280m. He was fired after the division lost $11bn, but stayed on as a $1m-a-month consultant. "It seems he single-handedly brought AIG to its knees," said John Sarbanes, a Democratic congressman.
Chuck Prince, former Citi boss

A lawyer by training, Prince had built Citi into the biggest bank in the world, with a sprawling structure that covered investment banking, high-street banking and wealthy management for the richest clients. When profits went into reverse in 2007, he insisted it was just a hiccup, but he was forced out after multibillion-dollar losses on sub-prime business started to surface. He received about $140m to ease his pain.
Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial

Known as "the orange one" for his luminous tan, Mozilo was the chairman and chief executive of the biggest American sub-prime mortgage lender, which was saved from bankruptcy by Bank of America. BoA recently paid billions to settle investigations by various attorney generals for Countrywide's mis-selling of risky loans to thousands who could not afford them. The company ran a "VIP programme" that provided loans on favourable terms to influential figures including Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Senate banking committee, the heads of the federal-backed mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and former assistant secretary of state Richard Holbrooke.
"Angelo R. Mozilo (born 1938) was the chairman of the board and chief executive officer of Countrywide Financial until July 1, 2008.[1] Condé Nast Portfolio ranked Mozilo second on their list of "Worst American CEOs of All Time"

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Mozilo
Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch

O'Neal became one of the highest-profile casualties of the credit crunch when he lost the confidence of the bank's board in late 2007. When he was appointed to the top job four years earlier, O'Neal, the first African-American to run a Wall Street firm, had pledged to shed the bank's conservative image. Shortly before he quit, the bank admitted to nearly $8bn of exposure to bad debts, as bets in the property and credit markets turned sour. Merrill was forced into the arms of Bank of America less than a year later.
Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss

The chairman of the Wall Street firm Bear Stearns famously continued to play in a bridge tournament in Detroit even as the firm fell into crisis. Confidence in the bank evaporated after the collapse of two of its hedge funds and massive write-downs from losses related to the home loans industry. It was bought for a knock down price by JP Morgan Chase in March. Cayne sold his stake in the firm after the JP Morgan bid emerged, making $60m. Such was the anger directed towards Cayne that the US media reported that he had been forced to hire a bodyguard. A one-time scrap-iron salesman, Cayne joined Bear Stearns in 1969 and became one of the firm's top brokers, taking over as chief executive in 1993.
Others
Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat)

Consistently resisted efforts to tighten regulation on the mortgage finance firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He pushed to broaden their role to dodgier mortgages in an effort to help home ownership for the poor. Received $165,000 in donations from Fannie and Freddie from 1989 to 2008, more than anyone else in Congress.
Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister

He announced on Friday that he would step down and call an early election in May, after violent anti-government protests fuelled by his handling of the financial crisis. Last October Iceland's three biggest commercial banks collapsed under billions of dollars of debts. The country was forced to borrow $2.1bn from the International Monetary Fund and take loans from several European countries. Announcing his resignation, Haarde said he had throat cancer.
John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07

No one can fault 51-year-old Tiner's timing: the financial services expert took over as the City's chief regulator in 2003, just as the bear market which followed the dotcom crash came to an end, and stepped down from the Financial Services Authority in July 2007 - just a few weeks before the credit crunch took hold.
He presided over the FSA when the so-called "light touch" regulation was put in place. It was Tiner who agreed that banks could make up their own minds about how much capital they needed to hoard to cover their risks. And it was on his watch that Northern Rock got so carried away with the wholesale money markets and 130% mortgages. When the FSA finally got around to investigating its own part in the Rock's downfall, it was a catalogue of errors and omissions. In short, the FSA had been asleep at the wheel while Northern Rock racked up ever bigger risks.
An accountant by training, with a penchant for Porsches and proud owner of the personalised number plate T1NER, the former FSA boss has since been recruited by the financial entrepreneur Clive Cowdery to run a newly floated business that aims to buy up financial businesses laid low by the credit crunch. Tiner will be chief executive but, unusually, will not be on the board, so his pay and bonuses will not be made public.


Source: www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jan/26/road-ruin-recession-individuals-economy


Reply by JanelWI on 2/24/13 1:55pm
Msg #457482

Re: Mazulo wasn't alone...

Stoli:

Good info, and between each one the lines....someone profited and bent the ears of those who make these policy decisions for one self serving reason after another. Of course he was not alone. The problem is far bigger and more systemic than people realize. This is just one small picture.

There are no other words for it beyond, unbridled greed. We will have yet another cycle of this very activity, americans will forget as one crisis hits after another and these very self serving people like Mazulo will profit yet again with no real retribution. It is the status quo as I said before. Keep people divided and suffering and you can make them do or believe whatever you want. Or, make people believe absurdities and watch them commit atrocities. This is what we are seeing and it is nothing new. There will always be some narcissistic, ego maniacal, sociopathic nightmare that thinks he or she has a better mouse trap than the one before. It is up to people to stay informed and not get lazy and complacent. This will always be a balance because people are capable of such great achievement and also the greatest and most grotesque acts of evil.

Stoli is right, human beings do this to themselves, but human beings can also choose differently. The power people place on money is greater than the power they give themselves to change. That is unfortunate.

Human beings have become intoxicated and distracted with possessions and things, and more superficial crap than I can possibly list as if those are what define our worth in this society. Please don't all the dead people call me at once, but I really want to know if they arrived at the pearly gates with all their possessions and their favorite reality show or movie still available on demand!

It's just not as easy to walk the narrow road as it is to widen it to justify our every want and desire before we have even thought about our actions or acquired the proper discipline it takes to maintain it. We all do this on large and small scales. It is human nature, but on this level as posted here by Stoli, and once it has gone this far, it makes it that much harder to put out the fire. It will take work, sacrifice, honest self examination and the help of all, even those with no skin in the game to turn around this run away train. And even then, people will still be vulnerable to the same cycle if they don't choose to change the core behavior that created it in the first place.



 
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