Posted by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 6:53pm
Msg #476891

Grantee's Rider (individual)- this has no wording other than

borrowers' signatures and my certificate under them.

Have you guys seen this before?
Are there supposed to be other pages with it?

Reply by Yoli/CA on 7/15/13 6:56pm
Msg #476893

Have not seen before. What's immediately before this signature page? Is this on a purchase?

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 7:04pm
Msg #476896

Here is how it looks.

Grantee's Rider
(individual)

________________________________ _____________________________
borrower signature borrower signature

State _________________
County ________________

On this day personally appeared................... (notary certificate)

Notary signature and stamp


Then, just above an empty a box under the certificate it is says:
"The below box is used for notary expirations and notary stamp."


That is it. Nothing else whatsoever. No page numbers, no verbiage above signatures, nothing.

Reply by Yoli/CA on 7/15/13 7:07pm
Msg #476898

What's the doc before?

A Rider usually follows and supplements a specific doc. For example: PUD Rider follows DOT.

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 7:22pm
Msg #476899

Re: What's the doc before?

The document follows 8, yes 8, HUDs.
The document proceeds the Certificate of Value, Fee Disclosure, Real Estate Tax Reassessment Disclosure, Survey Waiver, and the mailing label. Maybe it goes with the later. :o)

There are no other docs sent from this sender. Title docs came from somewhere else and it does not appear to go with any of those either.

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 7:23pm
Msg #476900

Re: What's the doc before?

All of the pages have signature lines. The Cert of Value has signature lines in the middle.

Reply by Yoli/CA on 7/15/13 7:37pm
Msg #476903

Bizarre!

By signing and notarizing that "rider," it would be like issuing a signed blank check. Have you called TC to inquire. Sounds like they failed to include something ... while they were so busy including 8 HUD's (geeeessshh!).

Does it have your borrowers' names filled in? If not, maybe it was meant for another package ....... Just throwing possibilities out there. You definitely need to speak with TC, IMO.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.

BTW, who's the lender and who's TC?

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 8:16pm
Msg #476909

Re: Bizarre!

Definitely wont be notating the doc.
The borrowers names are printed below the lines.
Of course no one answers the phone or emails.
I will post back and let you know what turns up.

Reply by Susan Fischer on 7/15/13 8:04pm
Msg #476907

I'd call that a blank in the document, in that it's blank,

and wouldn't sign it as a borrower, individual or otherwise. As an NSA, if a borrower insisted on signing it, I would defer to the rules about Notarization of blank(s) in documents. Absent calling for clarification/resolution, if challenged by the borrower, I'd defer further to the non-compliant certificate, and note the declination event in my journal.

Reply by JeffC/CA on 7/15/13 7:39pm
Msg #476904

I'm really curious how you'll handle this.

I couldn't notarize a blank document. Not my job to recommend signing/not signing to client, but sure would be surprised if someone signed something like that.

Must be missing the rest of pages.

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/15/13 8:25pm
Msg #476913

It is odd. Does not appear to be missing pages as the heading Grantee's Rider is on this page. Like a chunk in the middle didn't get printed in. Although there isn't room for more either. Signatures are right under the heading.

Reply by Notarysigner on 7/15/13 11:41pm
Msg #476935

are the Docs for out of state filing? I ask because we don't do Survey affidavits.

Reply by Alz on 7/16/13 12:13am
Msg #476936

Referral

Hi Belinda,

I think you service the 95841 area, correct? I have someone that needs a few documents notarized, as I am not available tomorrow at 11:00am. Do you mind if I give him your information? Let me know.

Reply by Alz on 7/16/13 12:16am
Msg #476937

Oops. This was to be a PM. Sorry n/m

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/16/13 1:26am
Msg #476940

Re: Referral - Yes, I have that time open. Refer away! n/m

Reply by Belinda/CA on 7/16/13 1:29am
Msg #476941

I posted my oops while your oops was showing up. See PM n/m