Posted by pat/WA on 7/19/13 11:34am
Msg #477422

oath

It would be interesting to know how many notaries administer the oath

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 7/19/13 11:46am
Msg #477424

I always administer an oath when one is required for a jurat and always make sure the signer acknowledges for an acknowledgment.

Reply by Yoli/CA on 7/19/13 11:56am
Msg #477426

Same as Sylvia. n/m

Reply by Stephanie Santiago on 7/19/13 12:46pm
Msg #477434

Re: Same as Sylvia and Yolanda

Always.

Reply by NJW/FL on 7/19/13 1:59pm
Msg #477442

Re: Same as Sylvia and Yolanda

Always a verbal oath and acknowledgment.

Reply by janCA on 7/19/13 12:01pm
Msg #477427

Same here and often get those "deer in the headlight" looks and a comment that they've never had an oath given to them before.

Reply by pat/WA on 7/19/13 12:04pm
Msg #477428

A single oath for all Jurats included in the documents or an oath administered for each jurat

Reply by janCA on 7/19/13 12:12pm
Msg #477430

Single, and then I will state on the following documents that require a jurat is that the oath still applies.

Reply by Laurie Manzanares on 7/19/13 11:46am
Msg #477425

Re: oath-YES! n/m

Reply by Karla/OR on 7/19/13 12:04pm
Msg #477429

Yes, ALWAYS!!! n/m

Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 7/19/13 12:22pm
Msg #477431

This subject has been extensively covered on NR through the years. I don't know why you are revisiting it at this point, but I do know you are not going to get any "scientific" results (if that's what you're after) because few regular readers of NR would actually post that they never give an oath. Only the notaries who are disobeying the law (at least in CA) never give an oath, and it's highly unlikely they'd readily admit it.

Also, if you do a search, you'll find some notaries do the oath for each and every jurat in a loan pkg' many others consider that overkill and do one-oath-covers-all ... and then many notaries deliver an oath at the signing start whether there's a jurat in the pkg or not.

So, again why are you asking at this point? Is there something new we should know about?

Reply by pat/WA on 7/19/13 12:36pm
Msg #477433

No. It is slow and I thought it was an interesting discussion topic.
I also would be interested in knowing which states have a law requiring an oath be given for Jurats.
I know that California does.

Reply by JJNotary/CA on 7/19/13 12:51pm
Msg #477435

I am fairly new to NR - and didn't realize that there are notaries NOT administering the oath?! That seems crazy. I like the idea of administering at the beginning of a loan package, I've been doing it as I come up to the doc.s that have the Jurat attached.

Reply by parkerc/ME on 7/19/13 1:07pm
Msg #477436

Huh????? Are you serious?

"I also would be interested in knowing which states have a law requiring an oath be given for Jurats. I know that California does."

What do you not understand about the meaning of the word oath? And every jurat requires an oath be administered..."SWORN to and signed/subscribed before me". What states do not require that an oath be administered for a jurat?

I give an oath(including acknowledgement wording in it), up front. When each succeeding document comes up with a jurat, I just say "reminder, you are still under oath".

Reply by pat/WA on 7/19/13 1:56pm
Msg #477441

informational forum

The question was intended to elicit informational responses from the Notary Rotary members. Not arrogant, self serving, indignant entries. Although I am not surprised by your response, what took you so long?

Reply by parkerc/ME on 7/19/13 5:56pm
Msg #477481

I've been very busy administering oaths...

Surprised that you are not surprised at my response, since I very rarely post here, but could not resist commenting on such a basic requirement of a notary. And will not waste any more time adding to this thread. (Maybe it's the heat.)

Reply by JanetK_CA on 7/20/13 3:04am
Msg #477538

Re: Huh????? Are you serious?

C'mon, parkerc/Me... Isn't that just a bit harsh?

I can think of two recent signings (like just within the last couple of weeks) where the borrowers said something like "I've never had to do *that* before!" And these were from people who own multiple properties... Many of us have been hearing that comment for many years, so it should be no surprise to any of us who have been around the block a few times that there are many notaries out there not administering an oath, as they should be.

Reply by Malbrough_LA on 7/19/13 3:14pm
Msg #477458

Every time. Never negotiable ;) n/m

Reply by pat/WA on 7/19/13 4:18pm
Msg #477463

training videos

Has anyone ever seen a notary training video that included administering the oath?

Reply by GOLDGIRL/CA on 7/19/13 9:08pm
Msg #477506

CA does not require raising of right hands.

Thank goodness. Too many minorities here who might misunderstand or take it the wrong way.

When I get to the first jurat, I say: "This document requires an oath" to get their attention. Then: "Do you solemnly affirm all statements you make are truthful and accurate blahblah" or somesuch. (Sometimes, they've already raised their hands in anticipation.) I wait until I get a yes or at least a grunt out of them and move on.

One time I signed this couple: The wife was schoolteacher, and she readily replied yes to the oath. The husband .... a big, good-looking, imposing guy just sat there looking at me. I finally asked what gives, and he said no way was he taking an oath. Huh? "I'm the finance manager at a (major Ford) dealership, and nobody would ever believes me anyway." I'm thinking he was probably right.