Posted by sueharke on 10/23/13 3:59pm
Msg #489428

Article of IC vs employee status

This may be an interesting article as to why SS are trying to put rules in effect that could have notaries actually be considered employees, due to "behavioral characteristics." It is related to the business perspective of why states are so interested in having people misclassified as independent contractors, rather than employees be properly classified. Maybe the information is helpful to some notaries.


"http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/States-Clamp-Down-Misclassified-Employees-Independent-Contractors-68387-1.html?ET=webcpa:e9459:343483a:&st=email&utm_source=editorial&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tpt_102313&taxpro"

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 10/23/13 4:08pm
Msg #489433

This is all true...

The IRS and state are getting really ornery about this. Business who misclassify people are getting employees on the cheap and people aren't educated enough to push back and say, "NO... if you want to treat me like an employee, you have to hire me and I deserve the protection of being an employee." If they want an indpendent contractor... they have to GIVE UP a lot of control. There's actually a lot of protection many people don't realize, and it costs the employer money -- worker's comp insurance, for one.

Reply by SDSigner on 10/23/13 4:39pm
Msg #489441

As per our phone conversation today, thanks for the good information Sue.

Reply by sueharke on 10/23/13 6:50pm
Msg #489470

Thank you.

Reply by MW/VA on 10/23/13 7:13pm
Msg #489474

I'm sure this has to do with the new health insurance laws,

and those who are getting around it by listing people as independent contractors instead of employees. We are truly independent contractors & not employees.

Reply by sueharke on 10/23/13 7:27pm
Msg #489478

Re: I'm sure this has to do with the new health insurance laws,

This has been going on long before Obama Care Laws. For at least the last 10 years the state of CA has been working on misclassified workers. Obama Care Laws have reduced workers hours to less than 30 per week to avoid paying insurance for the employees.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 10/24/13 1:41am
Msg #489516

Re: I'm sure this has to do with the new health insurance laws,

"Obama Care Laws have reduced workers hours to less than 30 per week to avoid paying insurance for the employees."

I believe that is being widely claimed, however, I read somewhere - possibly today - that the number of part time workers has actually been decreasing in relation to full time employment. Wish I could remember where... but I'd probably need to take it off this page anyway.

Reply by Susan Fischer on 10/23/13 7:28pm
Msg #489479

Fat chance on employee status for Remote Closer Notaries:

There are a ton of reasons - the first being that *they* call *us* with an offer for a single assignment, a one-time thing, for a negotiated price.

Employees don't have the choice to either negotiate or refuse. We do, and without consequence, as the SS will call again another day with another offer.

Ergo, not employees from the jump. Independent Contractor status is long established.

Reply by MW/VA on 10/24/13 9:30am
Msg #489556

I agree, Susan, and don't quite understand why this topic

is showing up on the forum these days. We're dealing with enough panic as it is, with the whole bgc issue.