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Re: This is just crazier..
Posted by MikeC/TX of TX on 12/13/22 6:20pm Msg #82128
I never said he was dishonorably discharged - I said (in another post) that he received a bad conduct discharge.

Why let Russia dictate the terms? Because we had nothing to bargain with - Whelan was arrested on espionage charges (which were false), and the Russians will exchange him for a spy - and we have none to offer. Germany has a Russian spy in custody, but had no interest in trading him.The choice was Griner for Bout, or nothing.

Bout's been out of action for 14 years - do you really think he's just going to pick up where he left off? We'll probably hear about him falling out a window in ythe next couple of months. And what evidence do you have that Griner"hated America"?

Are you saying that you would prefer she stay in a Russian penal colony until we can get Whelan out? Seriously?

In a negotiation, you take what you can get, especially when you're not dealing from a position of strength.

As far as Trump is concerned, please spare us the fanboy stuff. Trump turned down the deal because he wasn't interested in Whelan, not because he thought it was a bad deal. He didn't care. If he did, he would have been negotiating for his release. He had two years to deal with this and did ZERO. The idea that Trump is a master negotiator is a fantasy that comes from Trump himself, and is not backed up by any evidence. Look at what he got in exchange for the release of 5000 Taliban prisoners - NOTHING. Or what he got from North Korea in exchange for stopping war games with South Korea - once again NOTHING. So tell me again how strong Trump is.

And just FYI, I don't have any lemmings.
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Messages in this Thread
 This is just crazier.. - shooterclay on 12/9/22 12:19am
 Agree 100% - n/m - Linda_H/FL on 12/9/22 9:37am
 Re: What happened to “leave no man behind” n/m - Carolyn Bodley on 12/9/22 11:23am
 Re: What happened to “leave no man behind” - MikeC/TX on 12/9/22 7:00pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - MikeC/TX on 12/9/22 6:45pm
 Re: Wait and see game if he’s still dangerous - Carolyn Bodley on 12/10/22 9:59am
 Re: PS — all I can say is that I’m glad hubby is retired - Carolyn Bodley on 12/10/22 12:34pm
 Re: Wait and see game if he’s still dangerous - shooterclay on 12/12/22 7:00pm
 Re: Don’t like Whelan — what about Fogel? - Carolyn Bodley on 12/10/22 2:14pm
 Re: Don’t like Whelan — what about Fogel? - MikeC/TX on 12/10/22 5:57pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - PaigeTurner on 12/10/22 11:43am
 Re: This is just crazier.. -  Yoli/CA on 12/10/22 2:00pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - PaigeTurner on 12/10/22 3:03pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - MikeC/TX on 12/10/22 6:48pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - PaigeTurner on 12/11/22 2:46pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - MikeC/TX on 12/10/22 6:27pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - shooterclay on 12/12/22 6:58pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - MikeC/TX on 12/13/22 6:20pm
 Re: This is just crazier.. - PaigeTurner on 12/15/22 10:53am
 Yeah, what she said… n/m - shooterclay on 12/16/22 7:54pm



 
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