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Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages
Posted by  Cheryl Elliott of CA on 10/2/14 4:20am Msg #516376
I must admit you and Jennifer show a lot of courage, opening a SS in this climate, when SSs are dying left and right, and have been for two years now. Just today in my county, one title company laid off three staff, a lender laid off two staff. Union Bank recently bought a huge tri-county bank, and laid off 100s in the loan origination department.

The BIGGEST companies have gone under, slamming their AP doors in the faces of notaries across the country. This is the most communicative forum in the industry, and believe me, we're all aware of who pays, who stays, and which companies have stiffed notaries, giving them assignments knowing full well they would not be paying these notaries for their work. Then, as greedy and arrogant as they were, they had the nerve to advertise their expensive global vacation destinations on social media networks, flaunting how they were spending notaries' unpaid fees.

I'll bet those 100s of notaries who've signed up with you have no clue about what they're doing because they are milled right out of the NNA whose entire revenue is based on annual background checks. I'm pretty sure you're not seeing the best and the brightest of this business signing up with Indepth Solutions.

The last thing I intend to do is to complete 35 pages of a one-way street agreement with a company that I know nothing about. Frankly, Ralph, I'd rather be paid $150 plus directly by client, title/escrow or lender, than give a SS most of my fee 30 days down the road.

If Indepth Solutions has a vision of MUTUAL respect and shared prosperity, it would be the first one out there of its kind.

Distain is correctly spelled DISDAIN. Curtesy is correctly spelled COURTESY. You must be a newcomer to this field, because there are plenty of signing services out there, 100s of them, who have come and gone and have no idea what MUTUAL respect and shared prosperity are. Sorry if we seem jaded here, but we've had lots of experience with that brand of SS.

We're just not that easy these days. Pare that 35 page agreement down to something more reasonable. Also, as for my vendors, who pay me all the respect in the world, and me them, I'm not showing them my automobile insurance policy, my drivers license, $300K in business liability policy, etc. You and Jennifer will attract notaries who are desperate and will work for peanuts. That's not who the first responders on this forum are.

Ralph, I would welcome your company if you prove us wrong, but I'm pretty sure, your company is going to be like all the rest. Putting yourself in the middle and retaining a bulk of the fee, because after all, just like the NNA, you have very high overhead costs with 25 employees. Some of the biggest signing services around have a lean and mean staff. The business is not what it was three years ago when everyone was refi'ing over and over. They've cut their staff, and their fees.

You will attract people who won't ask these difficult questions, because they have no experience, they're just cutting their teeth on documents. You will get what you pay for, believe me, because a lot of my work is cleaning up after clueless, inexperienced notaries.

The people who are responding here to you now ARE professionals. We've weathered the storms. We've been stiffed by SS's over the years. But we're a much wiser board today. Seasoned, professional, skilled and armed with survival skills. Frankly, all the companies listed on the SPW list of partners are low ball, slow paying signing services. You need to clearly understand why we don't welcome new SSs with open arms.

You're not listed on this forum as a SS in Signing Central. That will be a great place to start, so that notaries who sign up with you can rate your company, good, bad and ugly.
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 Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/1/14 8:25am
 Did you notice on their website!!! -  bagger on 10/1/14 8:29am
 Re: Did you notice on their website!!! -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/1/14 8:42am
 Re: Did you notice on their website!!! - supersigner on 10/2/14 4:18pm
 Yes, several errors. Fee now upped to compensate as you know - jba/fl on 10/1/14 8:56am
 Re: Did you notice on their website!!! - sheltn on 10/1/14 9:08am
 Re: Did you notice on their website!!!PEANUTS - sheltn on 10/1/14 9:15am
 As independent contractors, we can always say NO!! n/m -  JanetK_CA on 10/1/14 3:21pm
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Les_CO on 10/1/14 9:51am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/1/14 10:02am
 About those directions on what-how-when-where-who -  Linda_in_IN on 10/1/14 10:14am
 Re: About those directions on what-how-when-where-who -  Notarysigner on 10/1/14 10:40am
 Me either, James. ROFL! Good spam control...yea!! n/m - jba/fl on 10/1/14 10:46am
 Linda-ha ha all my beer cans get tossed on the car - Darlin_AL on 10/1/14 11:30am
 Ignore them. Maybe they'll go away.............. n/m -  Jack/AL on 10/1/14 1:56pm
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages - Katmet on 10/1/14 4:51pm
 Beer cans?!?! What shall I do w/ the wine bottles?? n/m - HrdwrkrVA on 10/1/14 8:52pm
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages - Perez - Ralph on 10/1/14 9:14pm
 Appreciate your time and effort in responding to my post -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/1/14 10:11pm
 Re: Appreciate your time and effort in responding to my post -  John Tennant on 10/1/14 10:42pm
 Re: Appreciate your time and effort in responding to my post - Perez - Ralph on 10/1/14 11:47pm
 "VALUED SIGNING PARTNERS" - BearPaw/CO on 10/1/14 11:24pm
 Re: "VALUED SIGNING PARTNERS" - Perez - Ralph on 10/1/14 11:48pm
 Ralph, please address the concerns expressed by JanetK n/m -  Stoli on 10/2/14 10:51am
 Re: "VALUED SIGNING PARTNERS" -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 11:05am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  JanetK_CA on 10/2/14 12:32am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 12:33am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Doris_CO on 10/2/14 1:01am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/2/14 4:13am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages -  Cheryl Elliott on 10/2/14 4:20am
 With all due respect, Mr. Perez... - parkerc/ME on 10/2/14 7:56am
 Re: With all due respect, Mr. Perez... - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 10:52am
 my sources show you are a management consulting firm.. -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 11:18am
 Only one person on entire "meet or team" is a notary n/m -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 12:46pm
 Re: Only one person on entire "meet our team" is a notary - jba/fl on 10/2/14 1:42pm
 True but you don't even have to take a exam to -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 2:17pm
 Re: Only one person on entire "meet our team" is a notary -  Les_CO on 10/2/14 5:18pm
 Why are you jumping on me? - jba/fl on 10/2/14 5:55pm
 Re: Why are you jumping on me? -  Les_CO on 10/3/14 3:04am
 Thanks, Les. n/m - jba/fl on 10/3/14 7:50am
 Well one is better than none....maybe? n/m -  Les_CO on 10/2/14 1:45pm
 Re: my sources show you are a management consulting firm.. - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 5:54pm
 I didn't publish the address on purpose...nice house! n/m -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 7:43pm
 Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns - coastal/CA on 10/2/14 11:20am
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns - Aida Gonzalez on 10/2/14 11:46am
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns - jba/fl on 10/2/14 2:07pm
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns -  John Tennant on 10/2/14 2:29pm
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns -  JanetK_CA on 10/2/14 3:28pm
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns -  VT_Syrup on 10/2/14 3:37pm
 Re: Mr. Perez, kindly respond to our privacy concerns -  JanetK_CA on 10/2/14 5:33pm
 Re: With all due respect, Mr. Perez... -  Les_CO on 10/2/14 11:20am
 As a PS -  Les_CO on 10/2/14 11:53am
 Re: As a PS Ditto! n/m -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 12:01pm
 Also...why can't your co. be added to SC in all 50 states? - Lee/AR on 10/2/14 11:36am
 Re: With all due respect, Mr. Perez... - Aida Gonzalez on 10/2/14 11:39am
 Interesting research. -  John Tennant on 10/2/14 1:02pm
 Re: Interesting research. - stell/IL on 10/2/14 1:13pm
 Re: Interesting research. -  John Tennant on 10/2/14 1:21pm
 And I got it - and I'm NOT in SnapDocs. n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 10/2/14 1:27pm
 Re: And I got it - and I. Ditto 4 me n/m - parkerc/ME on 10/2/14 1:40pm
 I get stuff from Snap Docs but was going to ask here, Who - jba/fl on 10/2/14 1:52pm
 Re: I get stuff from Snap Docs but was going to ask here, Who - jba/fl on 10/2/14 1:55pm
 Re: I get stuff from Snap Docs but was going to ask here, Who -  Notarysigner on 10/2/14 2:05pm
 Re: I get stuff from Snap Docs but was going to ask here, Who - jba/fl on 10/2/14 2:11pm
 Boohoo! I didn’t get their offer...just commenting. n/m -  Les_CO on 10/2/14 1:40pm
 Re: Interesting research. - jba/fl on 10/2/14 1:48pm
 Re: Interesting research. - Aida Gonzalez on 10/2/14 2:04pm
 Re: Interesting research. -  John Tennant on 10/2/14 2:10pm
 What REGULATION requires BGC every year? -  FGX/NJ on 10/2/14 4:24pm
 Re: What REGULATION requires BGC every year? -  Linda_H/FL on 10/2/14 4:35pm
 Re: What REGULATION requires BGC every year? -  FGX/NJ on 10/2/14 4:40pm
 heh :) n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 10/2/14 4:48pm
 Re: What REGULATION requires BGC every year? - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 6:04pm
 Re: What REGULATION requires BGC every year? - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 6:17pm
 Ralph, I've been fairly silent so far...but I would -  Linda_H/FL on 10/2/14 6:22pm
 I should add here I suppose that yes, I did join your -  Linda_H/FL on 10/2/14 6:25pm
 Re: I should add here I suppose that yes, I did join your - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 7:12pm
 Re: Ralph, I - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 6:53pm
 Re: Interesting research. - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 6:00pm
 Re: Interesting research. -  John Tennant on 10/2/14 9:32pm
 Re: Interesting research. - Jeff Green on 10/14/14 11:04am
 Delayed responses - Perez - Ralph on 10/2/14 7:17pm
 Re: Delayed responses - Marian_in_CA on 10/3/14 12:25am
 Ralph, As an IRS Enrolled Agent I can provide -  John Tennant on 10/3/14 12:51am
 Re: Delayed responses - jba/fl on 10/3/14 8:19am
 Re: Back to those 35-page middleman SS vendor packages - Perez - Ralph on 1/16/15 9:15pm



 
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