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Re: Expert article predicts pen and paper will survive eClosings
Posted by jnew of WI on 8/18/17 9:17am Msg #581307
There is a question about the UWM mortgage which was noted in the article. It really didn't say that a notary was not present with the mortgagors when they signed the documents. Judging by what the North Carolina authority said, a notary will be required to be present on electronic signings in order to comply with the appearance requirement of the state. Illinois is not a web notary state and I still wonder if a notary was present and if not, what the venue showed on the recorded mortgage and other documents that were notarized. Can the venue be shown as Virginia (or other web state) on the document, under the presumption that the signers were in Virginia "cyberspace" although they were physically located in Illinois. One thing present NSAs might be able to hang their collective hats on is the notion that until the state laws change, they will be required to attend the signing. Then again, will there be an adequate fee if they are notarizing a limited number of documents and are excluded from the rest of the loan package. I don't share Mr Ishbia's optimism that it will be "full web" by 2019. I think it will be a trend and some of the work will be done this way, but until the states change their notary laws, the work of a NSA will still be required.
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 Expert article predicts pen and paper will survive eClosings - grapebed on 8/17/17 10:24pm
 TY, grapebed, 4 posting w/info from UWM Pres CEO Mat Ishbia n/m -  Christine/OK on 8/18/17 6:36am
 Here is the correct link. Apologies to the board - grapebed on 8/18/17 10:24am
 Re: Expert article predicts pen and paper will survive eClosings - jnew on 8/18/17 9:17am
 I can tell you that the venue is not in Il -  Cari on 8/18/17 10:31am
 can *say n/m -  Cari on 8/18/17 10:32am
 Re: I can tell you that the venue is not in Il -  VT_Syrup on 8/18/17 11:10am
 Oh I don't know, maybe the following has affected my -  Cari on 8/18/17 5:42pm
 Re: Oh I don -  VT_Syrup on 8/18/17 6:43pm
 Gerard, perhaps I'm not explaining my view point on this -  Cari on 8/18/17 9:11pm
 Re: Gerard, perhaps I - Bear900/CA on 8/18/17 10:10pm
 Re: Gerard, perhaps I -  VT_Syrup on 8/18/17 10:40pm
 Gerry, my initial reply to this thread was to Jnew... -  Cari on 8/19/17 9:40am
 meant to delete the contradiction part... n/m -  Cari on 8/19/17 10:01am
 Re: Gerry, my initial reply to this thread was to Jnew... -  VT_Syrup on 8/25/17 6:15am
 Lets add more to the madness, shall we: -  Cari on 8/28/17 11:53am
 pen and paper will survive eClosings - Signerbill on 8/18/17 10:52am
 Re: pen and paper will survive eClosings -  Cari on 8/18/17 11:51pm
 I'd be curious to know how much the parties involved were -  MW/VA on 8/18/17 5:45pm



 
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