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Re: The legal effect would be Mute
Posted by  VT_Syrup of VT on 6/21/18 7:03am Msg #594877
It's the job of the RECIPIENT of the document to decide what assurances the recipient wants, and from whom, and choose a notarial act accordingly. The fact that different states have different requirements for notarial acts makes that difficult for the recipient to figure out, and we see many documents where the person who drew up, or selected, the document isn't getting the assurance the recipient probably wants.

If the recipient knows the signer and how to find the signer in case the signer needs to be arrested, and just wants to be able to prosecute the signer if he/she lies, an oath will be sufficient in any state.

If the recipient doesn't know the signer, and wants the notary to check the ID of the person who signed, an acknowledgement will accomplish that in every state. An oath will only accomplish that in some states. But with an acknowledgement, the signer isn't promising the contents are true.

If the recipient wants to be able to have the signer prosecuted if he/she lies, AND wants the notary to check the ID, AND is preparing a form to be used in many different states, the recipient should have the notary perform two notarial acts: administer an oath AND take an acknowledgement.
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Messages in this Thread
 How to do a RULONA verification? -  VT_Syrup on 6/18/18 10:02am
 Re: How to do a RULONA verification? - NVLSlady/VA on 6/18/18 1:58pm
 RULONA verification definition - ABC Legal Docs, LLC - Jerry Lucas on 6/18/18 7:51pm
 Re: RULONA verification definition -  VT_Syrup on 6/18/18 8:34pm
 Re: How to do a RULONA verification? -  VT_Syrup on 6/18/18 8:32pm
 What???!!! - NVLSlady/VA on 6/18/18 9:02pm
 Re: What???!!! -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 6:46am
 Re: What???!!! - NVLSlady/VA on 6/19/18 4:00pm
 Re: What???!!! -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 4:21pm
 Re: What???!!! fix my mistake -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 4:23pm
 Re: What???!!! VA notarial acts that don-t need ID -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 4:31pm
 The legal effect would be Mute - NVLSlady/VA on 6/19/18 5:25pm
 Re: The legal effect would be Mute -  VT_Syrup on 6/21/18 7:03am
 NVLSlady/VA I don't think that's correct for VA... - CopperheadVA on 6/19/18 3:56pm
 Re: NVLSlady/VA I don't think that's correct for VA... - NVLSlady/VA on 6/19/18 4:46pm
 Re: NVLSlady/VA I don -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 5:03pm
 Had to verify, confirm an oath was given and that signer - NVLSlady/VA on 6/19/18 5:31pm
 Re: Had to verify, confirm an oath was given and that signer -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 5:45pm
 yeah, an Oath ("Oath" shall include "affirmation.") - NVLSlady/VA on 6/19/18 5:50pm
 How to do a RULONA verification/affidavit - ABC Legal Docs, LLC - Jerry Lucas on 6/19/18 12:39am
 Re: How to do a RULONA verification/affidavit -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 6:52am
 Example of certificate that could be attacked -  VT_Syrup on 6/19/18 8:31am
 RULONA notarial certificates - ABC Legal Docs, LLC - Jerry Lucas on 6/20/18 12:44pm
 Re: RULONA notarial certificates -  VT_Syrup on 6/20/18 2:49pm



 
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